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Bang / Boom Noise Sources, Causes, Cures

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Building bang or boom noise troubleshooting: causes & cures.

Here we provide an extensive catalog of the sources of annoying banging or booming sounds or noise complaints at or around buildings.

These articles discuss building noise control: how to inspect, diagnose & cure noise or sound problems in homes or commercial buildings.

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How to Identify & Cure Banging or Booming Noises & Sounds in or Around Buildings

Hairline interior crack in Florida Townhouse (C) InspectApedia.com NathansonBooms, booming noises: aside from obvious boom noises traced to explosions or perhaps to an oil burner puffback explosion, methane gas explosions, and similar explosive causes, sounds coming from the ground, including loud booms, moaning, humming, and other sounds coming from the ground may be due to "stretch movement noises" due to tectonic plate movement.

But unless we have evidence of nearby sinkholes or mining activities, before assuming that a booming or banging noise is originating in the ground below a property, there are other bang/boom noise sources to be investigated and ruled out. We will list those in this article.

Photo: fine stucco cracks in the building whose booming noise complaint is discussed just below.

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Question: loud booming noise complaint, building cracks - sinkhole?

We manage a town home that is an end unit here in Florida. The renter complained of loud noises happening mostly at night and early morning, after a period of weeks of heavy rain.

I noticed small cracks in three successive doorways upstairs which may or may not be related.

We’ve sent the insurance co, roofers, pest control, association management, handymen, and even the fire department and nobody can figure it out. It’s loudest inside, unpredictable, the neighbors have heard it through their walls and I heard it twice myself.

The renter moved out because of it, the owner wants to sell, but obviously we need to determine what the issue is and correct it. There are some hairline cracks in the stucco around the building at windows on the ground floor.

I’ve called structural engineers and inspectors, and they have said they can’t help me. Is there a company that can check for sinkhole potential, and/or use sound equipment to identify where the noise is coming from? - B.N., Florida, 2018/10/08

Reply: property specifics can help suggest bang / boom noise sources

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Thank you for asking such an interesting, if also frustrating and difficult question about tracking down and diagnosing the sounds you describe;

Any guesses I'd offer based just on your e-text would be such wild speculation that even if I were right it'd be luck not smarts; and I want to avoid misdirecting your energy.

In tracking down a noise source in or near a building it's helpful to have specifics about the property not included in your original question, such as:

After ruling out obvious and immediate safety hazards (as I will detail below), check also for structural damage that might or might not be related to the noises.

The hairline interior and exterior stucco cracks shown in your photos are so common that without other data one would not assume those are due to property subsidence.

A more thorough inspection for signs of cracks and movement beyond just the photos might indeed change that view.

Identify a problem pointing to a costly repair.

For example, thermal expansion of metal ductwork can cause sudden loud boom noises in a building but would be rather easy to correct.

See BANGING NOISE at AIR HANDLERS or in DUCT SYSTEMS

See also THERMAL EXPANSION of MATERIALS

A Sound Log Helps Find Noise Sources

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When we don't know where a sound is originating there are some helpful steps such as keeping a log of

Details about how to do this are at HOW TO USE a SOUND EVENT LOG

I speculate that while it's possible, it's not highly likely that very loud booming noises under or around a home and that were traced to sinkhole subsidence would have occurred without more obvious surface indications;

Yes you could also contact a geotechnical engineer who has expertise and access to equipment used to scan for hidden sinkholes or other formations under ground, and that's a reasonable next-step, but

Watch out that you don't let attention get captured by a single idea such that we miss something more critical and ultimately more-accurate

Watch out also when consulting anyone about a difficult problem like this as people don't necessarily recognize nor tell you about the limitations of their expertise.

OPINION: For example an "engineer" may have certification and a degree in a narrow specialty - electrical engineering - but she (or some) may still practice out of and take questions out of her specialty area.

Reader Follow-up: Booming noise at a town home, end unit, built in 2002 in Miramar, Florida.

This is a town home, end unit, built in 2002 in Miramar, Florida.

I believe the first floor is concrete block/cbs and upstairs has plywood flooring under the carpet and is likely stucco over frame. The renters lived there for over 3 years, and the noise wasn’t an issue until after Memorial day this year.

They moved out 2 months later due to the noise. Since the renters moved out, there has been no noises heard by the neighbors. The renters kept the unit very cold with the a/c. The noises began after a 2 week period of heavy rain.

The renters said it varied in volume/intensity and sometimes happened in rapid succession, sometimes it would stop for days. It usually occurred in the evenings and mornings; however, the renters were not home during the day most of the time.

The renters also told me the most intense ‘boom’ knocked open both smoke detectors, one downstairs and one upstairs, and items fell off the edge of a dresser.

I visited the property to investigate, and I was downstairs when I heard the noise, and it was as big as a person jumping or a door slamming, even ‘bigger’, and seemed to come from directly above the dining room beneath a bedroom.

I climbed a ladder into the attic, standing halfway when I heard it again.

It did not seem to come from the attic, but my handyman who was all the way in the attic said it came from the back of the property when I was sure it came from the front. The renters could never clearly identify the location.

The renter said she thought sometimes the noise was triggered by her son, a 10 yr old, running up or down the stairs, and it did happen when I was in the attic with him running up and down the stairs.

The exterior of the building shows a few cracks, three interior successive doorways show cracks on one side, but no other obvious damage or change in the ground or area was found.

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Thank you so much for posting this – I visited the property Thursday and tuned the a/c down and notified the neighbors so they can pay attention to see if the noise occurs. We also have a structural engineer inspecting the property on Tuesday. I’ll keep you posted.

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I forgot to mention that there is no gas at this location, everything is electric. If I had to guess, I would say it sounded more like wood (trusses) than metal (a/c). Hope to find out.

Rule Out Obvious Dangerous Booming Noise Sources First

I intended to emphasize that we start by eliminating as many of those as we can. For example, eliminate booming noises ascribed to gas appliance ignition problems if there are none, etc.

Watch out: in particular to be sure that you have ruled out sources of booming noise that would point to a dangerous and urgent condition such as

I've given this more thought but am of course limited by having to make wild guesses from up here in northern Minnesota.

My preferences lean towards unusual expanding metal work such as on metal ducts in an air handler - easily ruled out by noting if those are present, rising or arching trusses, or unsafe gas fired equipment.

See details at BANGING NOISE at AIR HANDLERS or in DUCT SYSTEMS

I speculated that if building materials are already under tension and ready to pop and make a sound, indeed a wild child stomping up and down stairs might provide just enough added vibration to occasionally set it off.

If it were geological, such as sinkhole noises, it'd b odd for the sound to be observed only in one home. Still I haven't ruled out a sinkhole sound. At InspectApedia.com are pages suggesting how to spot clues of developing sinkholes. I sent you that link earlier.

A sinkhole was reported in Miramar http://www.cnn.com/US/9610/23/sinkhole/ in 1996 "The football field-size sinkhole began opening last March in front of 20 houses in the Hampshire Homes subdivision of Miramar outside Miami. "

Here is a 2008 map of sinkholes in your area: http://fcit.usf.edu/florida/maps/pages/11100/f11144/f11144.htm

Miramar is in Broward, right?

The Top 10 Sinkhole-Prone Counties in Florida are

  1. Pasco County Florida
  2. Hernando County Florida
  3. Hillsborough County Florida
  4. Marion County Florida
  5. Pinellas County Florida
  6. Citrus County Florida
  7. Polk County Florida
  8. Orange County Florida
  9. Seminole County Florida
  10. Lake County Florida

More things to check in tracking down the booming noise

List of Common Sources of Banging or Booming Noises at or around Buildings

Note: this list can never be complete. Use the page top or bottom CONTACT link to send us suggestions.

Note as well that this is a sickeningly-long list of possible bang or boom noise sources at or near buildings.

You can simplify your use of the list by ruling out items that definitely don't pertain to your building. For example if there is no metal roofing, roof noises traced to temperature changes are unlikely, and if no roof trusses were used, that noise source is eliminated as well.

Then review the items remaining on the list as possible noise sources.

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Photo: thick slabs of ice from frozen Lake Superior, Two Harbors, Minnesota, in February 2019. The tremendous forces of freezing ice (expanding by 9%) causes fractures and fissures that combine with wind and wave action to produce a cacophony of bangs, booms, creaks, and other noises along with great slabs of heaved ice piled up near the shoreline.

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On 2019-12-27 - by (mod) - Tapping or ticking noises are quite different in cause & effect than banging or shuddering pipes

Thermal expansion and contraction of pipes, radiators, building materials can make the pinging TICKING NOISES you cite. Or a TAPPING NOISE.

Banging or shuddering pipes is a different matter and can lead to relief valve leaks, unsafe heating boilers, and of course loss of heat.

The best place to start diagnosing and fixing those noises is at

BANGING HEATING PIPES RADIATORS
as there we list a virtual catalog of possible causes and cures.

Draining air was a good step but I suspect there's a valve failing or a velocity problem in the piping.

On 2019-12-27 by Vlad

I have lived in this one family house for 10 years, with 3 separate hot water baseboard heat zones, in winter I have always heard pinging/ticking from pipes as they expand and contract.

This winter is the first time I am hearing this new bang/noise/shudder/tremble from water heating pipes. These 1-2 loud bangs are followed by a tremble that reverberates throughout the house perimeter.

I can hear these bangs about a second before I hear the sound of what sounds like a valve being closed, and then all goes quiet again until heat is called for again. It seems like at least 2 zones are experiencing these bangs, one zone being much louder than the other. I have drained all zones to be air free. What else should I look at? Thanks for the help. Vlad.

 

 

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