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When and how to hire an expert to inspect & test a building for environmental, health, safety, mold, IAQ hazards, or to test for mold or other building contaminants.

This article describes how to determine that you should hire an expert for on-site mold or other indoor contamination inspection and testing. We also discuss how to find and choose the proper expert to perform inspections and possibly tests to help decide if you need professional remediation services.

Not every environmental, safety, or mold contamination worry merits a costly onsite investigation - hiring an onsite expert or even performing mold testing for trivial mold cleanup jobs is expensive and usually unnecessary.

But failing to hire an expert when one is needed can itself be a costly mistake of a different kind.

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How to Decide When to Hire an Environmental or Mold Inspection / Test Professional

Photograph of fungal fruiting bodies growing out of indoor baseboard trim - a very wet home.

The purpose of the advice below is to help readers decide when it is appropriate to perform mold inspection and testing on a building.

We want to know how and when mold testing is appropriate, and we want to avoid spending money on mold testing when it is not necessary. Also we want to avoid spending money on unreliable mold "tests" and inspections that do not validly support any conclusion about the building.

Our moldy home photograph (left) shows a cup fungus growing along the wall/floor baseboard trim in a home that had suffered a prolonged plumbing leak.

The visible fungal growth is quite obvious. What is less obvious, and what will require an expert inspection, is the extent of mold cleanup needed in the building, possibly including hidden mold in wall and ceiling cavities.

The answer to the "when to hire an expert" question hinges on the answers to the questions given in the table below. Or if you don't like decision tables try our "expert hiring RULES of THUMB" that follow the table.

Article Contents:

When to Hire a Mold or Environmental Inspector: Decision Table

Question
Comments
More Information
Is there an indoor air quality emergency?

Yes:

immediately get outside into fresh air, notify building occupants, seek help;

Examples might include

- people are becoming sick or overcome or having difficulty breathing when they are in the building

- there are odors of a gas leak such as propane, LP gas, natural gas or sewer gas

Urgent action: also includes people in the building are at extra risk of respiratory illness such as asthmatics, immune-compromised, elderly, infant, AND there is a large (more than 30 sq ft) visible mold reservoir in the building

IAQ EMERGENCY STEPS

No:

whether or not you need an expert depends on the questions & answers below. If you are not sure if an emergency exists check out the articles listed at right.

DEFINITION of IAQ PROBLEM

DEFINITION of MOLD EMERGENCY

Large visible mold area: Is there a large area of visible, non-cosmetic mold in the building - more than 30 sq.ft. of contiguous mold of any color or texture?

Yes:

you need a professional to define the scope of cleanup needed and to explain how to correct the cause of indoor mold contamination.

MOLD DETECTION & INSPECTION GUIDE

MOLD APPEARANCE - WHAT MOLD LOOKS LIKE

CONFLICTS OF INTEREST

MOLD CONSULTANTS / INSPECTORS

BLACK MOLD, HARMLESS COSMETIC

BLACK MOLD, TOXIC & ALLERGENIC

RULES of THUMB

No:

whether or not you need an expert depends on the questions & answers below.

FIND MOLD, ESSENTIAL STEPS

MOLD in BUILDINGS

STAIN DIAGNOSIS on BUILDING INTERIORS

UV LIGHT BLACK LIGHT USES

Mold "Test" Results:

do results of a mold screening test, air test, surface test, or culture test suggest that indoor mold contamination is present?

Yes:

provided that the mold screening test was properly conducted and has reasonable validity, you need a professional to define the scope of cleanup needed and to explain how to correct the cause of indoor mold contamination.

Watch out:  because it is possible to find some mold growth in just about any building, collecting a sample of such mold from what is actually a trivial or small area of indoor mold contamination would not, of itself, justify a costly and extensive building mold investigation.

MOLD TEST KITS

ACCEPTABLE MOLD LEVEL

AIRBORNE PARTICLE & MOLD COUNT NUMBER GUIDE

MOLD EXPOSURE STANDARDS

U. MINNESOTA RULES discuss levels of mold contamination & other factors.

FIVE RULES of THUMB

CONFLICTS OF INTEREST

CLEAN MOLD BEFORE TESTING?

RULES of THUMB

No:

Watch out: while a "positive" mold test result can indeed suggest that a hidden mold problem is present in a building, negative results on just about any mold test cannot assure that no problematic mold reservoir is present.

Whether or not you need an expert depends on the questions & answers below.

MOLD TEST vs MOLD INSPECT

MOLD TESTING METHOD VALIDITY

ACCURACY OF AIR TESTS for MOLD

AIRBORNE PARTICLE & MOLD COUNT NUMBER GUIDE

MOLD CULTURE TEST KIT VALIDITY

MOLD LEVEL IN AIR, VALIDITY

ACCURACY OF AIR TESTS for MOLD

ACCURACY vs PRECISION of MEASUREMENTS

Other evidence of an IAQ problem:

is there other evidence of an indoor air quality problem such as building-related occupant complaints

 

Yes:

hire a professional to identify & investigate building areas of highest risk of a hidden or non-visible problem or hazard

DEFINITION of IAQ PROBLEM

AIR POLLUTANTS, COMMON INDOOR

ALLERGENS in BUILDINGS, RECOGNIZING

BIOLOGICAL POLLUTANTS

CONFLICTS OF INTEREST

FLOODS in BUILDINGS, MOLD PREVENTION

GAS EXPOSURE EFFECTS, TOXIC

GAS TEST PROCEDURES

HOUSE DUST ANALYSIS

INDOOR AIR HAZARDS TABLE

INDOOR AIR QUALITY & HOUSE TIGHTNESS

LEAD POISONING HAZARDS GUIDE

LEGIONELLA LEGIONNAIRES' DISEASE

METHANE GAS SOURCES

MOLD ODORS, MUSTY SMELLS

MOLD RELATED ILLNESS SYMPTOMS

ODORS GASES SMELLS, DIAGNOSIS & CURE

No:

whether or not you need an expert depends on the questions & answers below.

INDOOR AIR QUALITY IMPROVEMENT GUIDE

MORGELLONS SYNDROME

Other high risk factors:

are there other high risk factors such as vulnerable building occupants, non-specific building-related health complaints, or a history of building leaks or floods

Yes:

hire a professional to identify & investigate building areas of highest risk of a hidden or non-visible problem or hazard

FIVE RULES of THUMB help decide if a building investigation is warranted

CONFLICTS OF INTEREST

CLEAN MOLD BEFORE TESTING?

FIBERGLASS PARTICLE CONTAMINATION TEST

RULES of THUMB

No:

most likely a building investigation and further testing for mold contamination are not justified.

CARPETING & INDOOR AIR QUALITY

MOLD ODORS, MUSTY SMELLS

MOLD PREVENTION GUIDE

VENTILATION in BUILDINGS

WATER ENTRY in BUILDINGS

This table is part of a series of advisory steps about mold contamination investigation found

at MOLD / ENVIRONMENTAL EXPERT, HIRE ?.

Five reasons to consider a more extensive on-site investigation for toxic or allergenic mold

Five Rules of Thumb for Deciding When to Hire a Professional to Inspect for Mold & Prepare a Mold Remediation Plan

  1. People in the building are at particular health risk: 

    elderly, infant, immune-impaired, asthmatic, history of respiratory illness or other medical complaints which might be caused by or aggravated by mold, allergens, or other bioaerosols
  2. People in the building are sick 

    and there is reason to suspect that the building is causing or contributing to health, air quality, or similar concerns. You need a building or apartment evaluation and diagnosis to answer the question that may be posed by your doctor: might the building be contributing to or causing these complaints?
  3. The building has or is suspected of having had a history of significant leak events 

    or even a single event which flooded some areas: plumbing leaks, roof leaks, ice dam leaks, basement water entry, sewer backup, ventilation problems, air conditioning system problems; forced-air central heating/cooling concerns.

    If hidden building cavities have been wet, the mold you see may be just the tip of a "mold iceberg" that does need an expert to find the extent of mold, cause of mold, and to remove the mold.
  4. Large areas of water damage or mold contamination have been seen and you need an estimate of the extent of demolition

    and mold remediation which will be needed to make a proper cleanup and repair.

    Small mold problems: 

    If you are confident that the amount of mold is less than 30 sq. ft. of contiguous mold (and that there is no significant risk of a larger hidden mold problem) then the NY City mold remediation guidelines suggest that professional remediation is not appropriate.

    You do not need to hire someone other than perhaps a handyman or general cleaning service. BEWARE: if during cleanup of a small mold problem you discover that it is actually a large one, stop work and bring in a professional to advise you on how to proceed.

    Large mold problems:

     If more than 30 sq. ft. of mold-infected material is found or is already visible, then you need professional advice as more serious health risks and mold contamination may be involved.
  5. Contractors have already bid a variety of expensive mold-cleanup approaches

     to building cleanup/remediation and you need an unbiased, informed professional to help sort out these proposals

U. Minnesota general rules of thumb for deciding when to inspect for mold

Mold spray in process (C) D Friedman & Anabec[Edited and annotated by Daniel Friedman.]

IF these conditions are present in a building being evaluated for mold contamination risk

THEN mold may be a problem in the building. -- N. Carlson, U. Minnesota [Comments added by DF]

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On 2022-10-28 by InspectApedia-911 (mod) - how can I find the right home inspector or mold inspector?

@Allison,

I agree that navigating "whom to hire" for environmental inspections, mold inspections, water or leak damage inspection in a private home or rental apartment is difficult, and that the success and ease of finding someone competent and helpful will vary by location.

First about doing your own tape test

Although at TEST KIT for DUST, MOLD, PARTICLES: INSTRUCTIONS

we explain how to do that, (and many test labs across North America and the UK, Australia, New Zealand, etc. will accept such samples - it doesn’t have to be a local lab ) for mold questions, such testing is not generally needed. You can easily recognize a large moldy area if one is visible in your building.

Or see MOLD APPEARANCE - WHAT MOLD LOOKS LIKE

Knowing the genera/species of mold doesn’t change the cleanup needed.

Where settled dust tests are more useful are in screening building dust for particles that indicate a less obvious hazard - penicillium spore chains, unusual levels of dust mites or allergens, asbestos, or cross-contamination from a prior cleanup job.

Occasionally such tests are useful for someone’s doctor who is diagnosing an allergic or other health problem and who wants to know what was in the person’s environment.

About hiring an inspector:

Too many "mold inspectors" simply drop by to do some sort of "test" that - by itself - is of little real value. Even if the test says there's a problem, it's not diagnostic: where is the problem, what's needed?

Too many home inspectors will also "just do a test".

A good home inspector is expert in finding a building's leak history, noticing building or mechanical system features that are likely to result in leaks or trapped moisture, and at taking a building's leak history and construction materials into account in assessing the risk of hidden mold reservoirs, even if the focus is on moisture, not mold.

A home inspector who won't open an air handler is not a true, licensed, competent inspector, since opening the mechanical systems like air handlers is a fundamental requirement of home inspection standards.

The inspector is expected to open those covers and access panels designed and intended for inspection or service of air handlers, furnaces, electrical panels, etc.

Refusal to do that is as egregious error as skipping inspection of an attic or basement or of some rooms in a building. An exception is, of course, provided if the inspector feels that entering an area or touching equipment is unsafe. But even in that case s/he is required to tell you of that limitation and to explain its implications.

In some cities people bill services as an environmental inspector who looks for visually detectable environmental hazards like mold and lead paint, who documents the findings, and who might make limited use (as it's value is limited) of testing.

An industrial hygienist is overkill for mold inspections in a rental home and worse, may be inexpert in building science and over reliant on testing.

Few, if any, environmental test labs offer inspection services, and even among those their inspectors are likely to be too uneducated in building science and over reliant on profitability.

CONSULTANTS & EXPERTS DIRECTORIES

has some suggestions though these lists are of, course, not comprehensive. You can also try web searching for environmental inspector or mold inspector or home inspector in your city, but as we've discussed, you need some conversation with an inspector before hiring someone.

Spend some time on the telephone calling home inspectors and environmental inspectors and perhaps an experienced HVAC company who offers duct inspection by cameras. You may need, in the worst case, to hire two different people.

After describing your concern and what you think are your needs, ask the inspector if, for example, she inspects the air handler (blower compartment, insulation, blower fan) for visible mold or water leakage.

If the inspector gives an answer with any thoughtful content whatsoever I’d be encouraged.

I’m reluctant to hire someone who just tosses a “report” over the wall and moves on with no support to his/her clients.

If the inspector says no, or if he gives a vague arm-waving answer like "don't worry about it, honey, we'll take care of everything" then it's time to call someone else - for two reasons in the case of my example.

On 2022-10-28 by Allison - having trouble identifying a home inspector

@InspectApedia (Editor),

How do I find a suitable environmental inspector for my mold in my contaminated HVAC system and maybe elsewhere?

I can't tell you how thankful I am for your thorough and informative (and speedy!) response. I regret that I did not come across your site months ago. I'm an epidemiologist by training and know just enough relevant science to be dangerous.

I understand the risks of mishandling the situation but wading through the evidence and misinformation has been overwhelming and I've agonized over the best course of action. Thank you so much for helping consumers like me.

One follow-up question, if you can spare additional time.

Regarding whom to hire:

When exploring HVAC mold, would you be inclined to recommend hiring a home inspector who is proficient in multiple building systems including HVAC systems but who might not have as much experience with mold, or a mold inspector who is more proficient in effective inspection and testing protocols but does not have a mechanical license?

Given local licensure requirements when HVAC systems are involved, I've not been able to find a mold inspector who will do more than simply inspect visible components (i.e., they will not open the air handler).

I've also had trouble identifying a home inspector who:

1) works with renters, and
2) appears to have much mold-specific experience.

Are there any professional certifications or association memberships I could be on the lookout for?

I'm tempted to try my own tape/dust sampling while I'm searching for the right professional but don't see any local labs that seem to offer direct-to-consumer services.

On 2022-10-27 by InspectApedia (Editor) - must replace ductwork not just clean

@Allison,

This photo is of mold on louvers of what may be an air supply register - not by itself a major health concern but quite possibly an indicator of more extensive mold contamination.

While a register like this can be cleaned (or easily replaced) one should not do so without further investigation of the condition of the duct work and air handler.

HVAC mold in ducts and vents (C) InspectApedia.com Allison

posting more of your photos of moldy HVAC air handler and ductwork

HVAC mold in ducts and vents (C) InspectApedia.com Allison ... HVAC mold in ducts and vents (C) InspectApedia.com Allison

In these photos, where one is of the round flex duct, note that this photo of flex duct shows a gray deposit on the duct interior.

Such deposits are normal and are usually made principally of house dust: fabric fibres & skin cells - not harmful themselves, but a ready invitation to mold growth if the duct interior is damp or wet.

This type of ductwork cannot be cleaned - it would have to be replaced.

On 2022-10-27 by InspectApedia (Editor) - HVAC mold in vents, ductwork, and building

@Allison,

HVAC mold in ducts and vents (C) InspectApedia.com AllisonIMO your landlord did exactly the right thing by replacing the badly-contaminated moldy air handler and ductwork.

The contractor may not have performed the work properly if they spread moldy debris and dust in the building, and there is a second and very expensive risk that thereby the new HVAC system., air handler and ductwork are already mold-contaminated.

Just how serious that new contamination is ranges from trivial to serious depending on its extent and also on just how wet or dry is the air handler (thus discouraging or encouraging mold growth on its interior surfaces - a problem that can show up as early ins 24-48 hours).

I would never rely on air tests nor culture tests: the possibility of a false negative result (no mold problem) is far too great. 90% of molds won't grow in culture and air tests vary in "count" for the identical situation by as much as 4 orders of magnitude depending on small changes in test conditions.

I can only guess at what's needed as I've almost no information about your building and HVAC system, but most likely what's needed is a thorough visual inspection, some tests of settled dust in the occupied spaces and in the HVAC system on its surfaces, and if those show meaningful mold contamination, further professional cleaning, THEN followed by a clearance inspection and test, would be needed.

We include some additional moldy HVAC air handler and ductwork photos from your private email.

Keep us posted and ask further questions as you wish.

On 2022-10-27 by Allison

I’m grateful to have found this resource. I moved into a rental home in April and identified what appeared to be mold in the HVAC vents and a musty smell from certain vents when the system came on. After a lot of back and forth my landlord eventually agreed to have a mold inspector take a look.

They did not do a particularly thorough inspection, focusing mostly on the vents and ducts and taking air samples, but they did find obvious mold. I’ve a picture of the inside of one of plenums; they all looked similar.

They determined that the HVAC unit was oversized and not dehumidifying appropriately – a pretty bad thing regardless but especially given that the house is directly on the water in Florida.

HVAC mold inspection report (C) InspectApedia.com AllisonThe air samples were generally fine (see the image; 0 spores of the most harmful genera with small amounts of Cladosporium, Basidiospores, Curvularia, and some others), but a swab sample inside the air ducts unsurprisingly found high levels of active Cladosporium growth.

My landlord elected to have all of the ductwork and the air handler and compressor replaced, as well as added on an in-unit air purifier and UV lights. Great news, right?

However, the HVAC contractor they used did not follow any containment protocols despite my protests, left dust and moldy insulation/debris throughout the house, and did not even replace the air filters that were in place prior to the “remediation”.

Allergy testing has indicated that I’m highly sensitive to much mold and my allergies are still terribly flared up. I therefore have little faith that the mold is gone and am afraid that they may have just made the problem worse.

The contractor was supposed to have a mold inspector come retest but it’s been 4 months now so I’m not expecting they’ll send anyone, nor would I trust whoever they send.

I’m not sure what to do at this point. Would you recommend having a clearance inspection done? What should I have them look for? Is simply confirming the HVAC system looks clean sufficient?

I know air sample tests are not all that reliable, but would there be value in having a sample or two tested to compare to the pre-replacement report? I don’t feel safe and am willing to spend money for peace of mind, but I want to spend it smartly.

My landlord does seem committed to solving the problem, as they will be moving into the home after my lease ends, but I’m afraid they have fallen into the trap of going with the cheaper contractor and taking the less expensive route that ultimately is going to cost them more.

On 2021-10-30 by inspectapedia.com.moderator - how dangerous is the mold growing on my ceiling

@Frank,

There is no reasonable probability that the collection of various mode genera and species that you see growing on drywall or plaster in that space is harmless.

It's likely to contain small spores such as aspergillus or penicillium that can be quite dangerous.

And of course you are only seeing the mold on the surface, and we don't know, because we don't know it's cause, how much mold is growing hidden in ceiling and wall cavities.

On 2021-10-30 by Frank

I'm an engineer. I study multiphase flows, including aerosols. I have this wonderful group of molds growing in the main bedroom of an apartment I rent. I've sealed off the room and never enter without a mask.

I'm looking for a "SWAG" as to how dangerous, or not, this stuff is. Like a said, just a SWAG. If you've worked in a certain field for more than a decade, your first SWAG is usually accurate.

Thank you, I ask you to keep the following between us for now. I'm an engineer and have done research on airborne particulates most of my career. So I believe I can find a way to protect myself, at least temporarily. Frank

On 2020-09-25 by danjoefriedman (mod) - will bleach fix my mildew and mold

Tiffany

Bleaching mold is an understandable reaction, I've used it too, but it's incomplete and not quite right. The object isn't to "kill" the mold (you cannot kill all the spores, and you risk leaving "dead" but still "toxic" materials on the surface).

The object is to remove the mold.

So if there's a lot of fresh mold growth on the home you might want to power wash with deck cleaner and let everything dry completely before covering it over.

Search this website using the search box above to find our articles on

USING BLEACH TO KILL MOLD

and

CLEAN MOLD FROM WOOD SURFACES

On 2020-09-25 by Tiffany Littlepage

We are located in Houston Texas. Started an addition to our house last week. We are using yellow pine. We had rain for two straight days. The osb and the velvet were on the house but the frame was ultimately open with osb on one side of the house and doors and windows still needing to be put in.

I noticed mold or mildew on the wood a couple of days after the rain. I put bleach on it which it helped but I also noticed it on the rafters.

Guess my question is should I have the guys just spray the whole place with bleach or have a professional come

Question: how do I get someone to make a proper determination of my home's mold issue?

I have a mold allergy and would like to remediate but properly. I need to make sure that what my 2nd floor has is actually mold most likely from an old leaking of the front loading washer .... It really doesn't look too bad with some minimal cupping of the floor happening within 3 feet. Other than that the floor is and looks fine. They did cut the floor so now the washer is sitting on just subfloor that's the only area that was cut. We are getting a new washer and dryer installed and I can send you pics of that as well.

My question is I've contacted a bunch of mold remediation companies and they don't want to test or check the subfloor properly.

I stumbled upon your website and have actually wanted to confirm that this testing found on your website and checking both floor and subfloor for mold by drilling a hole actually seems fine to me as long as I know that there wasn't extensive leakage past the subfloor cut out of the washer machine and a couple of planks that looked moldy.

I don't really like the flooring and may want to just remodel and check all the subfloor using one of the mold remediation inspectors who said I don't need to worry about it (I had them use the moisture meter and it checks out fine that there is no leaking so it must have been past water damage.)

Just because I have a bad mold allergy I want to remediate though. Do you have any recommended people in ... that you could recommend I should ask who could do a proper inspection?

I am asking because you seem to know what you're doing in terms of inspection and I wanted to get your opinion on how I could get some one to determine my mold issue properly. - Anonymous by private email 2021/10/13

Moderator reply: how to find and choose a mold or other environmental inspection and testing expert

Test cuts for mold between flooring layers (C) Daniel FriedmanAs you did not provide any photographs, for other readers we include an example here of a typical test cut made into flooring from below.

By examining the test cut plug layers and the exposed underside of the finish flooring we can see if there is evidence of floor damage or mold.

Before hiring a mold remediator it makes sense to have an assessment of the extent of mold contamination and need for remediation performed by an expert who has absolutely no business or financial relationship with the company who would perform the work. That assures you that there is no conflict of interest.

You should understand that because the mold inspector will not normally perform extensive invasive inspection such as tearing open an entire wall, floor, or ceiling, when the work is actually performed, the remediator's crew may discover that the scope of cleanup needed is more than could be seen at the initial inspection.

Watch out: you and your onsite experts will want to balance the risk of insufficient investigation or mold remediation against tests of reasonableness: it's virtually never necessary nor appropriate to have someone dash about through a building like a madwoman with an axe, chopping holes everywhere. Choice of spots for more-invasive inspection for hidden needs to be based visual evidence and the building leak history.

We go to the most-suspect areas and examine those, using invasive methods if necessary; If the most-suspect areas do not reveal hidden mold contamination on closer inspection that's not an iron-clad guarantee that there could not be a hidden problem elsewhere, but it is a reasonable place and time to stop.

Cleanup should continue to remove all visible mold or mold-contaminated materials, clean exposed surfaces, and fix the cause of mold growth such as water leaks or moisture traps.

Our photo below shows mold found on the wall cavity side of drywall that looked perfectly clean on its room-side.

Photograph: of mold contamination on cavity side of drywall, exposed by a wall test cut

You can find mold and other environmental experts using the

page top EXPERTS DIRECTORY or by simply searching for and calling some experts who are located close to your building or city.

Talk with your environmental expert about your concerns and listen for the level of thoroughness of inspection that will be performed and for a promise of both a written report and a willingness to answer follow-up questions that you may have.

Do not hire someone who is simply going to stop by to perform mold "tests" - such tests, alone, would be of very little value unless accompanied by an expert and thorough visual inspection of the entire building for visible mold and for evidence of water leaks, a taking of the building's history of leaks, repairs, modifications, and a discussion of any particular health risks or vulnerabilities of the building occupants.

About the possibility that there is hidden mold trapped between layers of flooring or sub-flooring, that's a sticky issue that can be resolved with minimum cost and disturbance by some strategic probing that we describe

at HIDDEN MOLD in FLOOR / SUB-FLOORING

Our photo (above) shows one method of checking for mold between flooring layers - when other evidence justifies making test cuts from below.

Also see HIDDEN MOLD, HOW TO FIND - home.

On 2020-06-06 - by (mod) - are the conditions in this crawl space indicative of a problem?

Mold contamination, rot, water damage, prior repairs and I-joist damage in a crawl space (C) InspectApedia.com DanDan

Thank you for the question and photo. With the relcama that nobody can be as smart in diagnosing a building from a single photo and not a shred of other information about the building as can be a competent on-site home inspector or experienced contractor,

[Click to enlarge any image]

In your photo I see

  1. evidence of leaks at the far wall, perhaps a rim joist,
  2. water stained and somewhat delaminated plywood subfloor,
  3. an OSB I-joist that is quite moldy,
  4. darkened top and bottom chords of the I-joist from water stains,
  5. splits an possibly rot in the top chord of the I-joist,
  6. insulation trapped on nails through subfloor suggesting insulation was removed from this area - more is along the bottom of the photo,
  7. and at left in the photo I see what looks like a site-built add-on floor support, such as one might build to replace a damaged I-joist or to add support below a sagging or damaged floor above;
  8. I also see unsupported wiring, though I can't tell if it's carrying line voltage or if it's phone or ethernet cable.

The substantive questions that would shift from a concern for a local mold and leak and damage problem to a larger and more-costly repair with potentially more-harmful mold contamination include:

  1. How extensive is this damage, rot, mold
  2. What is the cause of leakage or water entry that we see. Perhaps water entry around the back entry door?
  3. What other repairs have been done, and by whom, with what expertise

If I had been asked to build or insert what looks like added support in the left side of your photo, I'd have warned the owner about these other observations and would have raised a concern for the possibility of more-extensive damage that certainly deserves investigation.

You say you just bought this home. Have you taken these concerns to your home inspector. She or he, having spent hours at the home inspecting everything, ought to be able to help you sort out the extent and cause of damage and the need for further repair and mold cleanup.

On 2020-06-06 22 by Dan - in the basement and there is a damp musty smell

We've just bought a house and had a look in a crawlspace in the basement and there is a damp musty smell, as well as a large dark patch on the far end. The crawlspace is located beneath the backdoor staircase. Is this a cause for concern?

On 2020-05-09 by (mod) - is this mold contamination? Do I need to hire an Expert?

Rot and mold and water damage at a kickboard baseboard trim idoors (C) InspectApedia.com bMakYes, that looks like mold B.Mak.

At both the bottom and top edges of wood trim.

More, the extent of rot and peeling paint is a warning that this area has been wet and rotting for some time, so you will want to investigate further the path of water and the extent of mold to be removed.

I would remove the rotted trim, follow the water, identify the leak source, and see just how much damage there is that needs repair.

If you find a 30 sq.ft. or larger area of mold OR if your situation meets other criteria listed above on this page then it's time to hire a professional.

On 2020-05-09 by bMak

My tenant sent me attached image of kickboard under the bathroom vanity.

The paint came off and the wood seems spongy. Is that black color thing mold (on bottom & top edges) ?

If so, would you be able to tell by looking at picture what type and how serious it could be?

Is it worth to do mold inspection or hire professional to address it or a handy man can remove a kickboard, clean it thoroughly, let it dry and install new kickboard? There is no other sign of mold anywhere else.

On 2020-03-05 - by (mod) - Building mold contamination testing by culture and settlement plates is about 90% "wrong" from the get-go

Mold culture test results (C) InsspectApedia.com SamuelSamuel,

Mold testing by culture and settlement plates is about 90% "wrong" in that only about 10% of all of the millions mold genera/species will grow in any culture under any condition whatsoever.

Furthermore what falls out of the air onto a petri dish is largely affected by individual particle size and mass. So what grows is what likes the culture medium and what fell fastest out of the air.

From just a culture plate we can not know if there is a large, small, or no indoor mold contamination, event though the culture produced mold.

If you think there is a mold problem in your building you may need a more-expert inspection, history taking, etc.

If it is justified, what's useful is a thorough inspection by an expert

First see the decision table found

in on this page for help in deciding if it's appropriate to bring in an expert.


More details are at MOLD CULTURE TEST KIT VALIDITY

On 2020-03-05 by Samuel - do these pics of mold in my office mean I need further expert help

Mold culture test results (C) InsspectApedia.com Samuel

Can anyone tell me if these pics of mold in my office need further expert help. Thanks


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