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Weak or Sooty Gas Appliance or Gas Heater Flame

What are the causes of soot at gas burners? Is soot at the gas burner dangerous? How do we fix a sooty or yellow or weak gas burner flame at a heater or appliance?

Page top photo by the author (DF): seeing clumps of soot below a gas burner is a sign of improper combustion and risks dangerous carbon monoxide poisoning.

This article series provides descriptions and photographs of unsafe gas piping, indications of unsafe or improperly operating gas appliances, gas meters, and other gas installation defects are provided.

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Weak Yellow or Sooty Gas Flame Cause & Cure

Soot at the gas burner of an LP gas water heater (C) InpectApedia.com Chris BWatch out: soot observed on or around an LP or or natural gas burner can be a sign of extreme danger.

Photo of a sooty LP gas water heater, courtesy of InspectApedia reader Chris B.

Normally, gas fired appliances run rather clean and with no soot deposition.

But if there is a combustion air problem, a system can soot up and even completely clog a flue with soot very quickly - in minutes or hours.

The risk is potentially fatal carbon monoxide poisoning of building occupants.

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Four Most Common Causes of Soot at a Gas Burner

When we see sooting at the burner of an LP gas stove or water heater, we have the following possible causes to check:

  1. Inadequate combustion air:

    either appliances are in a too small enclosed space or the appliance air shutter/control is not properly adjusted
  2. Improper LP gas supply pressure:

    perhaps an improperly-set primary regulator at the tank OR gas supply piping is too small and its run distance too long
  3. Wrong gas metering orifices:

    in the LP or natural gas appliance
  4. Bad fuel supply:

    the LP gas itself that is delivered to the building could be bad, improperly mixed or stored

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Causes of Gas Burner Soot Formation or Deposits

Watch out: sooting at any gas burner means combustion is improper: in this condition the sooting appliance(s) can produce dangerous, even fatal carbon monoxide gas - be sure you have working CO detectors in your home, properly installed, located, tested.

Inadequate combustion air flow

IF the sooting problem were at just one appliance, I'd suspect improper air shutter adjustment at the burner control on a gas range or stove, or improper air shutter adjustment on the air mixture tube on the gas burner of a gas furnace, boiler, or water heater.

But when sooting is appearing on the burners of all appliances, the problem is probably one of the other sooting gas appliance causes described here.

Also see GAS FLAME COLOR CHECK for more examples of gas flame color checks and the relationship between air mix and gas flame.

Improper LP gas supply pressure

If the problem is at all appliances and has always been present, since installation, it's possible that the gas delivery rate is too weak - low gas pressure.

Three common causes of poor gas pressure at appliances are

Mxitrol 2 1/2" Gas appliance regulator 201G- high capacity to 26 million BTU - listed at globalindustrial.com cited at InspectApedia.com

  1. Primary regulator is set improperly

    See GAS REGULATORS & APPLIANCE / HEATER CONTROLS

    Also see GAS REGULATOR NOISES - problems with gas-air mixture can cause noise at the appliance regulator as well as defective gas flame or too low gas flame.
  2. Gas piping diameter size is too long for the distance of the piping run -

    See GAS PIPING SIZE & MATERIAL
  3. Low LP gas fuel level - almost out

    It's also possible to see low gas pressure when the LP tank is nearly out of fuel.


    Check the fuel level gauge at your LP gas tank.

Wrong gas orifices at the gas appliance

LP gas orifice #44 for the Bosch Gas Cootop using LP gas (C) Daniel Friedman ...

If the gas metering orifices at the appliance are the wrong ones - for example, if an appliance was delivered/installed set-up for natural gas, you'd need to change the orifices at each burner to use LP propane gas.

LP gas orifice #44 for the Bosch Gas Cootop using LP gas (C) Daniel Friedman

We might suspect this cause if some appliances work fine and others never have, or if you bought appliances set up for natural gas and are using propane (or vice versa).

See details at CONVERT the GAS ORIFICES

Delivery of bad LP gas

LP Gas tank pair (C) Daniel Friedman

The delivery of LP gas itself could have been bad. If you were not seeing this problem until after a recent LP gas delivery, I suspect the gas itself was bad, improperly mixed or stored - call your gas delivery company for help.

Other less common but possible causes of sooting at gas burners

Solid gas flame at the burner of a Cal-o-Rex glass lined LP gas water heater in Pozos, Guanajuato, Mexico. The flame dispersing cone is damaged. (C) Daniel Friedman (2015)

Above: a very weak flame and sooty burner at a gas fired water heater we inspected in Pozos, Mexico.

  • Dirt or debris clogging gas outlet at a burner

    If the sooting problem is occurring only at one gas burner, then check for spills or debris that may be blocking the gas orifice or the gas burner openings.
  • Blocked chimney or flue

    or other causes of bad draft such as an open chimney cleanout door or missing chimney rain cap

    If sooting is occurring at the burner of a gas heater or water heater vented into a chimney, check for a chimney draft problem or a blocked flue.

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Examples of Improper Gas Burner Flame

The photo offers a view of a damaged gas burner flame dispersing cone and also of the passage of gas combustion products up through the center flue of this calorifier. The flame colours are normal, mostly blue with yellow tips.

Comparing colours of gas flames: yellow = unhealthy, yellow tips = normal for LPG or propane, soft blue flame = normal for natural gas (C) Daniel Friedman adapted from Bosch (014)

Our gas flame colour illustration shown above, adapted from Bosch (2014), shows how you might distinguish among the properties of the following:

  • Unhealthy, mostly yellow gas burner flames (top, check the gas regulator and air mix) that can occur on either LP (or propane) or natural gas burners.

Gas cooktop flame color check (C) Daniel Friedman

  • Healthy yellow tips on outer cones of otherwise blue flames (center) is characteristic

What the Bosch drawing and our photos above do not show are other gas burner flame defects such as noises, flame lifting off of the burner, flame jumping excessively, flame uneven, or blocked at some orifices by debris or spills or lastly and particularly dangerous, the presence of soot - an indication of a serious even fatal carbon monoxide hazard.

Above we see a normal LP gas flame at the burner of a gas stove installed in Poughkeepsie, NY.

Watch out: Any of these LP gas, propane, or natural gas burner conditions is potentially very dangerous and needs prompt attention. You should have your utility company or service person check the appliance immediately.

Immediate LP or natural gas safety hazards: if there is evidence of an LP or natural gas leak at a building, gas odors, for example, you should:

  • Do not do anything that is likely to cause a gas explosion, such as lighting a match, operating an electrical switch, or even using a telephone in the building
  • Leave the building immediately
  • Notify other building occupants of the safety concern
  • Contact the local gas company and/or fire department

Sooty gas burner (C) Daniel Friedman

Watch out: General safety warning: improper installation and even improper inspection and testing methods involving natural or "LP" gas can involve dangerous conditions and risk fire or explosion.

If you smell gas, you should leave the building immediately and should do so without doing anything that could create a spark such as operating a light switch or telephone. From a safe location, call your gas company's emergency line and/or your fire department.

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Soot or Flame Defects at Multiple Gas Heaters or Appliances?

Why do all of my LP appliances keep sooting up?

Soot at the gas burner of an LP gas water heater (C) InpectApedia.com Chris B

Our reader asked:

Why do my LP gas appliances keep sooting up?

This is the burner from my hot water heater. Also the pilot light flame seams very orange. On my gas range the flames grow and shrink randomly and have little white tips. Any suggestions ? 2023/03/27 Chris B -

Reply by (mod) - Causes of Soot (or flame defects) at ALL of the Gas Burners in a Building & Recommended Cures

Thanks for a helpful question.

Above on this page we have put together a comprehensive list of causes of sooting at the burners of any gas appliance, such as a gas range or water heater or boiler/furnace heater, now found above on this page where we include your photo as well.

Really? Well I add something extra for the case you describe.

You say that ALL of your gas fueled equipment is producing soot. So a few additional things to check include:

  • Check the primary gas regulator

    at your LP Tank to be sure it's set to deliver the proper working pressure for your gas appliances - weak gas flow could result in inadequate gas supply at burners, a possible cause of sooting

    See details

    at GAS REGULATORS & APPLIANCE / HEATER CONTROLS - also need adjustment for tall buildings or high altitude
  • Check the length or distance of your gas piping runs and the

    gas piping diameter
    or size

    to be sure that the piping can deliver adequate gas flow to the appliances.

    You can see details of how to figure the requried gas line size

    at GAS PIPING SIZE & MATERIAL
  • Check the combustion air in your building: if your gas fired equipment isn't getting enough air supply because, for example, the building is air tight and spaces are small, you might need to provide a source of combustion air.

    Details are

    at COMBUSTION AIR REQUIREMENTS
  • Watch out: sooting at any gas burner

    means combustion is improper: in this condition the sooting appliance(s) can produce dangerous, even fatal carbon monoxide gas - be sure you have working CO detectors in your home, properly installed, located, tested.
  • More causes of improper gas burner operation are

    at GAS BURNER FLAME & NOISE DEFECTS 

Please also review the other diagnostic suggestions in the article above and let me know what you find. Your feedback will help other readers.

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  • Bosch, "LP Gas Conversion Kit Installation Manual , NGM Gas Cooktops (NGM30, NGM50, NGM 56, NGM80, NGM86, NGMP65)", (2014), Bosch, 1901 Main St., Suite 600, Irvine CA 92614, Tel: 800-944-2904, Website: www.bosch-home.com
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