Recommended or allowable joist & beam spans: this article explains typical spans for joists, beams, and flooring, giving both standard span tables and a quick "rule of thumb" that works pretty well. We provide framing and span tables for decks, porches, roofs, and timber framing.
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Joist & Beam Sizing Tables & A Quick Rule of Thumb for Sizing Joists
Find here: Framing span tables for common building structures using both dimension lumber and timber frame construction methods. We include common rules-of-thumb that can help you make a quick guess at whether or not your framing lumber or timber is properly-sized.
A Quick & Easy Rule of Thumb for Estimating Allowable Joist Spans
Below we give a rough "rule of thumb" that will provide a reasonable guess at allowable deck joist spans for most lumber species and grades:
While it is by no means a substitute for a proper table of spans and sizes of framing lumber, home inspectors often use a quick and dirty "rule of thumb" to guess whether or not deck floor framing has been obviously over-spanned when joists are spaced 16" on center.
[(Depth of the Framing Member) - 2 ] x 2 = rough deck joist span limit for Southern Yellow Pine spaced 16" o.c.
Example:
If you see a deck framed with 2x8 pressure treated lumber (typically Southern Yellow Pine or SYP), spaced 16" o.c.,
(8" -2) x 2 = 12' = maximum allowable span for a generic "deck floor joist"
A look at an actual current joist span table will show that depending on the wood species, the allowable spans for a 2x8 floor joists with 40 pound live load with deflection limit of span/360, ranges from 10'5" (Western red cedar) to 12'9"
(Doug fir-larch).
A check with the current (2014) Southern Forest Products Association's (SFPA) span tables for southern pine, and assuming loads of 40 pound load (psf or per square foot), 10 pound dead load, and maximum deflection of 360, and choosing again a 2x8 joist spaced 16" on center for the same example, we found the following data:
Size
Spacing
Visually Graded Lumber
Machine Stress Rated Lumber (MSR)
Machine Evaluated Lumber (MEL)
DSS
No.1
No.2
No.3
2400f - 2.0E
1650f - 1.5E
1500f - 1.6E
M-14
M-29
M-12
Recommended Maximum Joist Span
2x8
16" O.C.
13-7
12-10
11-10
8-11
13-10
12-7
12-10
13-1
13-1
12-10
You can read that for visually graded southern yellow pine joists, the rule of thumb will get you within the range of the table-given specifications for joist span for 16" on center spacing. Immediately below are current wood span tables from Best Construction Practices.
Framing Span Tables
American Wood Council 222 Catoctin Circle SE, Suite 201
Leesburg, VA 20175 USA Website: https://www.awc.org/ Tel: 202-463-2766 Email: info@awc.org
AWC offers an online span calculator that permits the user to specify wood species, size, grade, member type, deflection limit, spacing, exposure, and live and dead load. See https://www.awc.org/codes-standards/calculators-software/spancalc or download a smartphone app from the same web page.
HUD, Chapter 5, DESIGN of WOOD FRAMING [PDF] U.S. Department of Housing & Urban Development, - retrieved 2022/05/28, original source: https://www.huduser.gov/publications/pdf/res2000_3.pdf
This chapter addresses elements of above-grade structural systems in
residential construction.
HUD, Chapter 6 LATERAL RESISTANCE to WIND and EARTHQUAKE [PDF] - U.S. Department of Housing & Urban Development, - retrieved 2022/05/28, original source: https://www.huduser.gov/publications/pdf/res2000_3.pdf - Shearwalls
Hyne Timber, T3 GREEN SPANS, 160 Kent Street,
Maryborough, QLD, 4650, Australia
PO Box 106, Maryborough, QLD, 4650 Tel: 07 4121 1211 - shown here for deck joists & Rafters, Single Span, see the centres given as notes below the table,
Website excerpt:
Stress grades and timber sizes combine to determine the spanning ability of load carrying members. Span tables allow users to choose an appropriate size and stress grade to achieve spanning needs.
For simple construction, such as domestic construction, this can be determined from span table supplements in AS1684.2 and AS1684.3.
Other (more complex) load condition spans can be determined with our free Hyne Timber Design 7.5 software.
NHBC TIMBER & CONTCRETE UPPER FLOOR TIMBER FLOOR JOIST SPANS [PDF] for the U.K., NHBC House, Davy Avenue, Milton Keynes,
Bucks, MK5 8FP UK, Website: http://www.nhbc.co.uk Tel: 0800 035 6422, Reproduced from BS5628 by permission of BSI. retrieved 2020/03/04 original source: http://nhbccampaigns.co.uk/landingpages/techzone/previous_versions/2010/Part6/section4/appendix.htm
NHBC is the UK's leading warranty & insurance provider for new homes.
Southern Forest Products Association's (SFPA) current suggested lumber spans are found at http://www.southernpine.com/span-tables/
SFPA, Southern Forest Products Association
6660 Riverside Drive, Suite 212
Metairie, LA 70003
USA Tel: (504) 443-4464 Website: https://www.southernpine.com/ Email: mail@sfpa.org
SFPA USE GUIDE [PDF] Excerpt and cautionary notice:
The Southern Forest Products Association (SFPA) does not test lumber or establish design values. The purpose of the Use Guide is to collect and organize data available from other sources for the convenience of builders, engineers, architects and other professionals. The Southern Pine design values contained herein are taken from the Standard Grading Rules for Southern Pine Lumber, 2014 Edition, published by the Southern Pine Inspection Bureau, and the adjustment factors are taken from the National Design Specification® (NDS®) for Wood Construction, published by the American Wood Council. Neither the Southern Forest Products Association, nor its members, warrant that the data from such sources on which the recommended uses of Southern Pine lumber contained herein are based is correct, and disclaim responsibility for injury or damage resulting from the use of such design values.
Watch out: excerpted from the complete guide above and given below are representative tables for southern pine wood framing; your specific load requiremenst may differ. The complete set of tables are linked-to at SFPA just above. original source: http://www.southernpine.com/span-tables/joists-rafters/ - Complete set of46 tables for live loads 30 to 100 psf and dead loads 10 to 20 psf and deflection limit 360 (joists) or 180 - 240 (ceilings and rafters for various snow loads), popular examples of these tables are given below.
Taranakipine, TIMBER SPAN TABLES for F7 Grade Timber Structural Fingerjointed Members and GL8 Members [PDF] (2009) Taranakipine, PO Box 7145 Fitzroy New Plymouth 4341 New Zealand, Tel: +64 6 755 9000 Email: blairt@taranakipine.co.nz retrieved 2020/03/04 original source: http://taranakipine.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/Australian-Span-Tables.pdf
Excerpt: These span tables have been developed in good
faith, with the assistance of Mr.Peter Falvey B.E.,
M.I.E.Aust., C.P.Eng., R.P.E.Q.(579) in accordance
with the relevant Australian Standards, however
please check for state and local government
variations.
These span tables are only for use in conjunction
with TaranakipineTM timber products. They cannot
be used for timber products produced by any other
timber manufacturer regardless of similarity
of species or design.
TFG Timber Framers Guild, 116 Pleasant Street, Suite 334
Easthampton, MA 01027
USA Tel: 833-862-7376 Email:
info@tfguild.org
This document provides span tables for dressed unseasoned hardwood which may be used to supplement
the design information provided in AS 1684 Residential Timber Framed Construction, Part 2: Non-Cyclonic
areas. ... the span tables prepared for Thora Wholesale
Timbers P/L for dressed hardwood, stress grades F14 and F17, have
been prepared, generally in accordance with the design criteria
contained in AS 1684.1 – 1999, Residential timber-framed
construction, and therefore satisfy the intent of the structural
requirements of the Building Code of Australia.
Changing Wood Framing Span Tables & Modern Framing Lumber Strength
Our opinion is that modern dimensional lumber is not the same product as it was in 1833 or even 1940. Modern 2x lumber is produced from trees that have been developed to grow rapidly to a size at which they can be harvested.
Rapid tree growth means wide-spaced growth rings which may mean softer, weaker wood than dense-grained first-cut timbers or lumber.
That combined with the increasing number of knots (as 2x's are cut from ever smaller trees) means that the building frame must rely on additional materials (such as plywood or OSB sheathing) for a critical part of its strength.
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