Low voltage (12-24 VAC) transformers diagnostic, installation & repair guide for HVAC & lighting systems:
This article explains how low-voltage transformers are used on heating, heat pumps, & air conditioning systems to provide power for thermostats, zone valves, and other relays and controls.
We explain how a low voltage transformer is installed and wired, where the device is usually located, and how to test or troubleshoot & repair low voltage transformers using a VOM or DMM.
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How do i tell if a transformer for thermostat is bad ?- Erwin 5/12/12
How do you test a low voltage transformer? - Den 7/16/12
Erwin if you disconnect the low voltage wires connected to the transformer terminals and use a VOM you should find voltage, usually 14V. If the device looks burned, hot, or smells, don't even bother testing. If it has been buzzing that's another clue.
Den,
Remove all of the the low voltage wires from the two (or more) screws on the top of the transformer. Usually you'll see a small gauge red and white wire simply connected under two screws on the upper surface of the transformer itself.
Some heating transformers for thermostats that use more than two wires will have more than two screws and more than two low voltage wires connected or there may even be multiple sets of thermostat wires connected if the transformer is powering more than one room thermostat. (photo above left).
Check for output voltage: with power to the transformer "on", using the VOM on a low voltage scale (say 0-24VAC ) check for voltage between the two screw terminals.
If the transformer itself is receiving 120V power but there is no voltage between the two low voltage output screws, then it is not working.
To test for a bad low voltage transformer you simply need a volt-ohm meter or a digital VOM.
See DMMs VOMs SAFE USE OF for advice on how to use a volt-ohm meter,
and
see TEST EQUIPMENT, ELECTRICAL GUIDE for advice on how to electrical test equipment safely. And of course you'll have to be sure you have found and are testing the right low voltage relay, as we will explain in the details below.
In our photo you can see a low voltage transformer mounted onto a 4-inch electrical box that is in turn secured to (and powered from) a gray-covered electrical panel. But as there are four circulator pumps shown in the photo, you can figure there will be more LV transformers and more circulator relay switches nearby, connected to other room thermostats in this building.
Why? A typical residential-grade low voltage transformer cannot handle the total current draw (in Amps) to support multiple circulator pump relays or other controls.
Shouldn't a 24v transformer put out 24V? I'm trying to install a nest thermostat but only getting 18V (apparently it needs at least 20) from a brand new transformer.
John,
Low voltage transformers convert 50Hz or 60Hz (cycle) line voltage (120 to 240V) AC (alternating current) to low voltage typically 12, 18, or 24 volts AC at a high frequency Hz, possibly as high as 20 to 50KHZ, that's 20,000 to 50,000 Hz.
There are other common low voltage output levels, for example 5-6V AC on many device chargers and there are also voltage converters that may produce DC rather than AC current.
What that means to you is that before replacing your possibly defective low voltage transformer there are some things to check:
It's usually pretty simple to understand the wiring and function of a low voltage relay on HVAC/R equipment.
The low voltage transformer changes (transforms) house current (at 120V AC) to a lower voltage (usually around 14V to 24V AC) used to operate the room thermostats and possibly other heating or air conditioning controls.
The low-voltage transformer shown at left, a reader-contributed photo, is feeding two pairs of low voltage 24V circuit wires (red and white); the 120V power wires feeding the transformer are the heavier wires in the center of this device. Click to enlarge this or any image.
So the transformer has 12V wires connected to its input terminals (not visible in our photo at left as by code the 120V wires have to be inside of that 4" metal electrical box). The low voltage thermostat wires that bring operating current (14-12V VAC) to the thermostats are on the exposed surface of the transformer.
In the simplest applications, two wires, typically red and white, are connected at the transformer.
A "C" or common terminal wire on the low voltage transformer is connected to the control relay that operates the heater or air conditioner, and
an "R" terminal on the transformer is connected first to the thermostat (which acts as an "on-off" switch) and from the thermostat onwards to a thermostat terminal found on the heater or air conditioner's primary control or circuit board.
In HVAC installations such as air conditioners, heat pumps, and heating systems, you'll find that a red wire is used to connect between the R or LOAD terminal at the low-voltage transformer and the R terminal at the thermostat.
HVAC system Transformers: Details about thermostat wiring and low voltage control wiring for transformers used on heating and air conditioning circuits are found
at THERMOSTAT WIRE CONNECTIONS.
Low Voltage Lighting / Receptacle Switching System Transformers: Details about thermostat wiring and low voltage control wiring for transformers used in low voltage lighting control systems are
at
2016/03/16 Peader said:
I have a 40 year old house that has been remodeled over the years with additional multiple heating zones, modernized thermostats with wireless computer access, intercom, etc. My 24vac control transformer has started buzzing very loudly and I plan on replacing it.
With this new demand on the 24vac side should I consider increasing the existing transformer capacity of 40VA to something larger? Is there a way to determine the output capacity of the transformer?
Thanks for the question Peader.
For other readers, 'VA' stands for Volts x Amps. Volts multiplied by Amps is also the classic definition of a Watt. If you hook up more devices drawing more current than a transformer can provide, it'll burn up - fail.
Also to be clear for other readers, the OUTPUT VOLTAGE of a replacement transformer should not be changed - that is if you are running 24VAC devices you want 24VAC supplied by the transformer. You wouldn't change to a 12VAC transformer (for example).
Here is a typical 24VAC transformer product specification using Robertshaw data as an example:
Class 2 Transformer, 40 VA Rating, Input Voltage 120VAC, Output Voltage 24VAC, Multi Mounting, Protective Device Fuse, Primary Connection 8 In. Leads, Secondary Connection 8 In. Leads, 1 Phase, 50/60 Hz, Not Rated Temp. Rise, Open Enclosure Type, Enclosure Rating NEMA 1, Enclosure Finish Bare Steel, Height 2.75 In., Depth 3.25 In., Width 2.44 In., Standards UL 1585 File Number E110657, E92807, E99697, CSA File Number LR107325-1, NEMA
A 24VAC transformer rated for 40VA (volt-amps) means that it can support 40 / 24 = 1.6A or 1.6 amps of current draw (load). That is its output capacity and the answer to your question.
Add up the current requirements (amps) of the devices you want to support. E.g. one zone valve might want 0.3 Amps. so the most you'd put onto one 40VA transformer would be 4 such zone valves - though I've seen a few working installations at which five or even six zone valves on a single transformer.
The VA rating of the transformer should be greater than the load of all the devices connected to it.
So how did they get away with wiring so many zone valves onto one transformer? Luck. Usually not all of the zone valves are being turned "on" by their respective thermostats at the same moment.
During activation the zone valve motor runs for less than a minute.
But eventually, on a very cold night, and with bad luck, all five or six thermostats try to turn on all five or six zone valves at the same time. Maybe the homeowners came back to a cold house and ran amok turning up all of the thermostats in the course of a minute. Hiss. Buzz. Dead transformer.
Typically an older wiser, HVAC installer adds additional transformers rather than installing one giant one serving everything in the house.
That can also avoid having to snake long runs of low voltage wire - depending on where your various devices are. For example an installer hooking up 6 zone valves would install two 24VAC 40VA transformers and wire 3 zone valves to each.
I'd guess that your wireless computer access is talking to a wireless router that is plugged into a 120VAC wall receptacle so that ought not be a concern.
I've hooked up three NEST thermostats in a test building, all working just fine off of the original transformer that originally supported the old Honeywell round units.
See NEST LEARNING THERMOSTATS - the manufacturer probably took care to be sure that their new product would work in older homes without requiring homeowners to change out their thermostat transformer or add additional ones.
Usually an intercom system has its own separate transformer as does a traditional home doorbell and as does the receiver for a remote operated garage door operator.
When we think that there may be a problem with getting power to a thermostat (if it needs power) or to other low-voltage-operated controls in an HVAC system, the "test" of the low voltage HVAC transformer involves these very simple steps:
On some modern HVAC equipment the low voltage transformer may be harder to spot as it may be incorporated into a more complex circuit board or component.
In all cases, however, if you follow the small gauge low-voltage wires from your thermostat back into the furnace or air handler cabinet you can find wires of this same dimension connected to a transformer.
(Mar 3, 2015) Raymond Rackley said:
Thank you for this website. I learned so much about what I have been trying to say to every electrician that has come to solve the problem of buzzing/vibrating transformers. They all say it's normal but when it keeps waking you up when the thermostat calls for heat in the middle of the night, it is far from normal.
You have taught me to stick to my guns and hire someone who will listen and understand that I have already found and isolated the problem.
Now I just need them to either replace the transformer or check the thermostat that just clicks at will. Thank you for breaking things down in English to a novice in heating and electricity.
Now I need a service technician.
Watch out: there may be more than one low voltage thermostat, for example one controlling heating and another controlling air conditioning in your building.
Or there may be additional low-voltage thermostats providing power to individual hydronic heating zone circulator pump relays and to the thermostats that control each of those zones (see our photo at the top of this page).
Watch out: there are other low voltage transformers found on air conditioners, boilers, furnaces, circulator relays, fan relays, etc. that are not the units providing low voltage to the room thermostat and main on-off HVAC/R controls.
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Below you will find questions and answers previously posted on this page at its page bottom reader comment box.
@Keith, to Transformers would certainly be sufficient power for thermostats and Zone valves. I would check first for a wiring error.
On 2022-10-11 by Keith
4 zone well McLain boiler.. I installed nest thermostats with a power adapter for the nest . 2 zones work fine.. now the kitchen will. Only. Turn on when the basement is on.. if the basement is off the kitchen will not work or call.. now the picture.
Is the 2 transformers that supply these zone valves.. do these need to be upgraded to bigger ones.. all. Wiring is correct as the other 2 work fine.
On 2022-07-13 by InspectApedia-911 (mod)
@Ronald J Kienle,
That sure sounds like the same problem we ran into
On 2022-07-12 by Ronald J Kienle
@InspectApedia-911, Thank you for the reply. That is my first order of diagnosis now. My thermostat was wired 50 years ago with two strands of telephone wire so the colors are wrong.....and too short...and mangled from being in a old Honeywell round mercury switch type thermostat so I am going to use some B-connectors to add a foot of new wire with fresh straight ends and rewire the nest.
The other day when I disconnected the wires and then reinserted them as per instructions from Google tech support I had a terrible time getting them to stay in. If that does not do the trick I will reinstall the old Honeywell round unit that I kept and run it for a few days to see if the issue goes away.
Once I determine the issue I will probably rewire the whole thing with a 5 wire system and a common wire.
@Ronald J Kienle,
It's an interesting question.
Haven't seen Transformers fail in a way that gives a intermittent power loss but I have seen that problem with loose electrical connections so you might want to double-check all of your wires. Recently at a home in northern Minnesota we had to discontinue using a thermostat (this was not a Nest thermostat) when we found that it's connectors simply would not hold the end of the copper wire securely.
On 2022-07-12 by Ronald J Kienle
Can a faulty LVT cause the AC to cycle off then immediately back on because the target temp has not been reached? I am trying to determine if this issue is my Nest Thermostat or not.
Sometimes, like several times a day, the AC shuts off but then turns right back on because it has not reached the target temp. I am trying to determine if something in the wiring or if the transformer is the issue.
If the power wire to the thermostat lost power for just a moment would it cause this issue....and is it possible for a LVT to act this way. Thanks
On 2022-06-02 by InspectApedia-911 (mod) - reset switch of Williams gas furnace
@RJ,
Thanks so much for posting that "No Heat after New Thermostat Installed" diagnosis and solution, RJ.
What gets confusing is failure of the furnace to start after replacing the thermostat when the problem is traced to a surprise: a thermal reset switch or flue gas spill switch that tripped.
I'm not sure (without a sharper photo without those dust clots (that could be a problem themselves)) if yours is a thermal switch or a flue gas spill switch.
But if you get more nuisance tripping see FLUE GAS SPILL SWITCH TRIPPING & RESET
and see the snap disc limit controls at
FAN LIMIT SWITCH INSTALLATION & WIRING
On 2022-06-02 by RJ
Super helpful info on this page to troubleshoot my problem. Replaced old analog thermostat with new digital one on hallway Williams gas furnace. New ts would not work ! Wires good, connections good. If I jumped it at furnace it would come on full blast.
Opened it up to check transformer. Found a 'reset' switch wired up high inside furnace. Pressed that, tried again at thermostat and walaaa! Heat! Hope this helps someone.
Picture is of reset switch in upper left side of Williams hallway type gas furnace.
On 2021-11-27 by Inspectapedia Com Moderator
@Hugh Campbell,
Well I have seen failing transformers drop voltage an cause a burner to fail, but that was on oil burners - a much different (high) voltage requirement.
A transformer is cheap to replace as a try.
But you know, you can install a new thermocouple flame sensor but if it's not placed perfectly in the flame or if the flame itself is weak, the heater's safety feature will shut it down.
Another thermocouple mistake I've made was not screwing the other end of the tubing fully into the gas valve - giving intermittent "no-flame" reports even though the flame was good.
On 2021-11-26 by Hugh Campbell
@Inspectapedia Com Moderator, I replaced the flame sensor before I replaced the gas valve. After replacing the flame sensor, I checked voltage at the gas valve and still had 25.2vac at the gas valve solenoid when the flame went out.
That was the reason I replaced the gas valve. But the flame even with new flame sensor and gas valve goes out after about 15 seconds.
It's a three try control before no flame code. But will light five to six times before setting no flame fault.
@Hugh Campbell,
more-likely- at least what I'd replace first, is the thermocouple
On 2021-11-23 by Hugh Campbell
Coleman furnace. 120v - 24v transformer. I get ignition and after about 15 seconds flame drops out. I checked voltage at gas valve as unit lit 25.2vac. Still had 25.2vac until flame was out.
Flame sensor was reading that flame was present.
Replaced gas valve. Same issue. Is it possible the transformer is the issue.
On 2019-03-03 by (mod) - When I disconnect it at the water heater the furnace won't run
Vic
I'll be glad to assist but we first need to get an accurate understanding of the situation.
If you had a separate oil-fired water heater with its own oil burner and controls, there would be no connection whatsoever to a home heating furnace (forced warm air heating system).
If your home heating system was a hot water boiler (and radiators or baseboards) that was also heating an indirect-fired hot water tank and that is what you abandoned, then indeed a thermostat at the hot water tank would have called for a circulator to run to re-heat the tank with hot water from the heating boiler.
It would have appeared as a separate heating zone as far as the home heating boiler was concerned.
Search InspectApedia.com for INDIRECT WATER HEATER to read details of how those heaters are hooked up and operated.
Assuming you meant home heating boiler (and used the word "furnace" generically), you'd remove all wires and controls that previously connected the heating boiler to the indirect fired water tank.
Then review the aquastat settings on your heating boiler and the thermostats in your home.
Or see these two diagnostic articles
NO HEAT BOILER - for hydronic (hot water) heating systems
NO HEAT FURNACE - for forced air heating systems
On 2019-03-03 by Vic P.
Hi, We replaced a oil hot water heater with an electric tank. In decommissioning the tank to remove it, I capped/plugged the chimney/stack pipe at the 'Y', capped the oil line 'T' fitting with a flare nut and disconnected the 120V cable to the tank. The problem I am up against is the 2 wire low voltage line that goes from the oil furnace to the tank.
When I disconnect it at the water heater the furnace won't run. How do I terminate that low voltage line ?
On 2017-12-10 - by (mod) -
Sorry Gene, I have this trouble too - sometimes I forget where I posted a question.
Your original question was posted at the bottom of ZONE VALVE WIRING
By luck I spent a sickening amount of time working on adding information and illustrations to your question and my reply this evening.
You can find all of that information repeated and possibly expanded a bit ALSO at this FAQs page:
ZONE VALVE WIRING FAQs
What I do is use the InspectApedia on-page search box to try a search for words I can remember from a question or comment. Google will (below some ads) return the most-likely or best matches and one of those is usually the article I want.
You can also click the little "email me replies" button under Comments Box though I've not used that and am not sure how well it works.
On 2017-12-10 by Gene 12/8/17
How can I get back to my question from yesterday
On 2017-05-05 by Rick
Some of my low voltage lights are on and will not turn off and some of them are off and won't turn on. I found the transformer and it is hot, hot, hot to the touch. Any idea what is causing all this?
On 2017-02-20 - by (mod) -
Sergio
I may have misunderstood but with power disconnected from a 24VAC transformer I would not expect to read any voltage whatsoever. Perhaps your meter is out of adjustment.
On 2017-02-19 by Sergio
I tested a 24 volt transformer with the power off and it gave me .7 volts is it good or should it give me more volts?
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