Antique & historic toilets:
This article describes early flush toilets such as the high-cistern flush toilet shown in our page top photo: this toilet is installed in the Samuel Morse home in Poughkeepsie, New York.
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Depending on where you live, sources also refer to a toilet as a water closet, WC, or loo.
The list of synonyms for toilets is long and also includes crapper, can, head (probably the oldest term) and commode or as my dad called it, "pot" after the antecedent "chamber pot".
Here we give the history of early, unusual, and for many readers less well-known toilets and toilet brands. Contributions are welcome.
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Chamber pots (dating from Roman times and Garderobes (5th to 15th century toilets that simply dumped waste to the outdoors) and privies and outhouses, toilet designs that date to the 1500s or earlier are omitted from this review of modern toilets.
See OUTHOUSES & LATRINES for examples of privies and outhouses, toilet designs that date to the 1500s or earlier
This discussion has been promoted to its own page:
ANTIQUE CHAMBER POTS & CLOSE STOOLS
In the eighteenth century, indoor toilet needs were met in several ways.
The two basic forms seem to have been the chamber pot, made from either ceramic or metal, and used by itself, or the close stool, a piece of furniture designed to hold a chamber pot or pan. Eighteenth-century probate inventories are an excellent source for learning about these indelicate objects.
2019/06/20 Michael Myers said:
I'm looking for anything about this toilet , mmyers0013@gmail.com
Michael,
Your photo shows a wooden commode. If it's original and not a reproduction, it's probably from the 19th century.
See your question and a detailed reply now found
at ANTIQUE CHAMBER POTS & CLOSE STOOLS
Other reading reading suggestions are given just below.
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By the 1880's, in London Thomas Crapper & Co's sanitary specialties included the elastic valve water closet illustratedhere, and the toilet cistern "water waste preventer" siphon toilet flush assembly design shown at the top of this page and again below.
As you can see from our photo of an early toilet advertisement by Thomas Crapper & Cos. (from a wallpaper reproduction), the siphon flush valve is not a new idea, and has long been sold as a method of preventing water wastage and running toilets.
The elastic valve closet advertisement shown above does not include the cistern or water reservoir tank.
Mounting the cistern high on the wall gave additional water pressure that helped flush the toilet bowl clean.
Early flush toilets like the toilet shown in our photo (abovee, Locust Grove, - Samuel Morse Estate, Poughkeepsie, NY)
and like this 1890 model [Image] used a high wall-mounted reservoir tank, typically wooden, to provide adequate pressure and flow rate to clean and empty the toilet bowl.
The flush valve for the wooden wall-mounted reservoir tank for this toilet was operated by pulling a chain that operated the mechanism.
Pulling the chain means flushing the toilet.
Thomas Crapper & Co. (London) called their scary-looking toilet contraption an "Elastic Valve Closet" [Image]
The photo below of a 1913 toilet (or part of it) is an early example of this design.
By 1890 the elastic valve closet had been sophisticated and simplified in appearance to appear with a toilet tank or cistern mounted still higher on the building wall for a more-powerful and so more-effective toilet flush operation.
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Case & Son Manufacturing is credited with being the first to manufacture a single or one-piece toilet that combined the water reservoir or cistern with the toilet bowl. Shown above is the Case Model A toilet produced in the early 1930s.
Case also produced one-piece wall-hung toilets like the Case 3000 shown below.
See more about wall-hung toilets at BACK FLUSH & WALL MOUNT TOILETS
Case toilet part sources:
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Photos of a Eureka cast-iron toilet, courtesy of InspectApedia.com reader D. Stewart - 2022/10/11
Owen Iron Works, Gadsen, Alabama, produced the Eureka cast iron toilet and many other cast iron products such as water meter box covers and possibly manhole covers.
Our research suggests that the Owen iron works in Alabama is traced at least back to the U.S. Civil War era when Thomas Hennington Owen built a forge on Roupes Creek. (Story of Coal & Iron in Alabama, 1910 p. 157)
According to a post by Evan Owen, a descendent of Evan Joseph Owen, owner of the Eureka / Owen Iron Works,
The Owen name and the Foundry Industry go back to Shelby Iron Works when families from Wales (Great Britain) immigrated as there was a shortage of knowledgeable operators in the south.
- retrieved 2022/10/11, original source: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1596864743791308/search/?q=owen%20iron%20works
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Above and below: photos of this J.A. Vogel flush toilet, provided by Mike, an InspectApedia.com reader and posted originally
at TOILET TYPES, CONTROLS, PARTS, look remarkably like the pre-1900 "Elastic Valve Toilet" described in our sketch at the start of this article.
Here is more description from Mike. Readers who know more about this toilet are welcome to CONTACT us or to contact Mike shadycreekboers@aol.com
I cannot find any name brand or digits other than the knob/valve has Rockford on it. The and here in central Texas found it in a barn that was said to be near 125 years old. It was stored in the barn.
He had just bought the place. With the porcelain being just on top and inside, nothing ornate outside, I assumed it went into something similar to the hall tree wash basin.
Hopefully not in a hall but maybe a bathroom or closet, since it only rinses when seat it's pressed, did it run water while using it or maybe had a solid lid that once you done your business, close lid and press to flush?
Moderator comment:
Your toilet or one quite similar is described in
As you later noted, JA Vogel was a U.S. company in Wilmington, Delaware.
This is how we think this toilet worked: sitting on the wooden toilet seat (missing except for a wood fragment on the left side of the bracket in the first photo) bolted to the cast-iron half-round bracket lifted a cam that operated the flush valve that caused water to flush the toilet bowl during or after use.
Vogel's patent descriptions explain how the valve worked on these early flush toilets and also cited a frost-proof design for the toilet drain system.
Excerpting from Vogel's second patent disclosure - 1905.
In a flushing apparatus, the combination of a bowl, a tank, a valve-casing communicating with the bowl and tank, a supply-pipe communicating with the valve-casing and provided with an inlet and drain apertures, a rod extending through said pipe and casing and carrying the inlet and flushing valves, the latter controlling the flow of water between the
SUPPLY-pipe and the tank and between the tank and bowl, said rod being provided with a by-pass for the flow of entering water between the inlet to the pipe and the valve casing, a seat-lid, means operated when the seat-lid is depressed to raise the rod to open the inlet valve and close the flush valve,
and a spring within the valve-casing adapted to force the rod downward to open the flush valve and close the inlet valve and normally maintain said parts in such position. - Joseph A. Vogel
These antique toilet photos show a toilet made of cast iron or of enameled steel with the remains of a flush valve much like that shown in the Elastic Valve Closet sketch on this page.
Subsequent toilet bowl designs have included many experiments & methods to improve toilet bowl cleaning, removal of solid waste without clogging, and to reduce "marking" - fecal stains on the toilet bowl surface that otherwise require a toilet brush and frequent cleaning.
U.S. patents citing JA Vogel as Inventor or assigned by an inventor to Vogel give an early history of this toilet and its flush mechanism beginning in 1903.
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An alternative to the tank ball and flapper valve toilet flush mechanism used in the U.K. and in toilets in some other locales, toilet siphon flush valves are operated by a button that forces water up from the reservoir cistern (toilet tank) into the siphon that in turn sends water into the toilet bowl to complete the flush.
Siphon flush valve controls on toilets eliminate the problem of running toilets caused by leakage at the tank ball or flapper valve.
Below we illustrate a more contemporary top-front-flush high-mounted cistern type toilet.
This toilet is installed in the restroom of the Brew Moon cafe in Amberley, on highway 1 between Christchurch and Akaroa, New Zealand.
The Brew Moon is a micro-brewery producing their own excellent beers whose sampling will for at least some customers, makes working toilets an important convenience.
Below you can see the operation of the flush control mounted on the upper front center of the Brew Moon toilet's cistern.
Below we illustrate the cistern fill valve in operation and the flush control valve components of this toilet.
The toilet includes a separate overflow drain from the top of the cistern (blue arrow, below).
More about the operation of drains and vents on toilets of this type can be read
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This toilet is installed in a converted house that was originally an attached garage at a home built in San Jose California in 1941.
Certainly I've seen both new reproductions and antique wooden wall tank flush toilets selling for over $1000. On your unit the hardware, piping, and other parts may need replacement or repair; you'll do best finding a local buyer so as to reduce shipping cost and risk.
I've tried searching for this logo among toilets, bath fixtures, plumbing suppliers, and Google images, without success.
If you find any other identifying marks such as numbers or letters stamped in the cistern that'd be helpful. If you do not object, I'll also find a place to post this to invite help from other readers - our default is to keep you anonymous unless you ask otherwise.
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We have two of these, installed in 1983. A photo of our Mexican Sand (or Moroccan Sand) one is attached as well as a picture of the black one from your web page. I have been assuming that these are Kohlers, but Kohler says no. There is no K number in the ceramic of the tank.
The only identifiers are the word Norris on one of the tank lids and the number 45. The manufacturing date, however, is quite clear.
The hardware store invoice identifies them only as 503, with no manufacturer.
Since the phrase "Or as our mom did in Boca Raton" was used in the description of the black toilet, I believe somebody at your end has had a distressingly close encounter with this model.
Ours flush very well, but require constant rebuilding of the flush mechanism to fill and/or stop filling reliably.
The fact that I have been using Kohler parts all along might account for these constant problems. Thank you, - L.K. 5/9/12
The black toilet shown in our photo was installed in a New York home - and was produced by Kohler industries. It does not appear to be the same brand as yours, since the tank on the black toilet in our earlier photo is rectangular, not curved such as the toilet tank shown in your photo (above).
But your message indicates that you saw "Norris" stamped inside one of the toilet lids. Almost certainly that indicates that your toilets were made by Norris Industries.
Norris Toilets, as indicated by the brand you found in the toilet tank lid, were a 5.0 gallon flush toilet (or other volume), builder-grade, low profile toilet design installed often in the 1970's and as late as 1991. Often you can also see the toilet brand on the bowl or base, behind the toilet seat hinge.
Watch for cracks in the porcelain in these units. Also see Norris Thermador (NT) models. Norris toilets may be marked as N, NI, NT, Norris, Norris Industries, or Norris Thermador.
The Norris Toilet Industries factory was located in City of Industry, California where production under the Norris label stopped when the company was bought by Mansfield Industries in 1991.
Mansfield Plumbing Products has been in business since 1929 and continues to operate (as a subsidiary of CORONA, a Colombian multinational ) in Big Prairie Ohio with a second plant in Henderson Texas. You might be able to obtain Norris-compatible parts from
Mansfield Plumbing Products LLC 150 East First Street, Perrysville, OH, 44864 Phone: 1-877-850-3060 Fax: 1-800-984-7802 Website: http://www.mansfieldplumbing.com
or go right to their parts supply contact information at
Vitreous China, Plastic Fittings and Parts. Phone: 1-877-850-3060 Fax: 1-419-938-6234
Other toilet part sources: we used to drive around in a pickup truck on "clean-up day" in our town, watching for people who were tossing out old toilets - collecting toilet lids for our renovation customers, as that's the part most often broken on porcelain toilets.
There are quite a few online vendors of toilet tank lids or other parts, including vendors selling color-matched parts if your toilet is other than a white model.
Just ask for a brochure from the replacement toilet parts vendor and that will get you quite close to the original unit that you have.
See details at TOILET CISTERN / TANK LID REPLACEMENTS
The Corona Corporation was founded as Organizacion Corona in 1881 and is one of the oldest businesses in Colombia. The company, headquartered in Bogota, is a ceramics producer with operations in Colombia ( Cl. 99 #10 - 08, Bogotá, Colombia), Panama, Mexico, the U.S. and China. Corona has been owned by the Echavarria family since 1935.
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Above, the Shires New Reverso toilet, installed at Brinstone Farm, Herefordshire, U.K. This toilet was produced by Whieldon Sanitary Potteries.
The cistern (toilet tank for yanks and Canadians) is probably newer than the toilet base of this Shires New Reverso.
The toilet pan (toilet base for yanks & Canadians) is ceramic. Whieldon Sanitary Potteries (previously Winkle & Wood Colonial Pottery) who produced the toilet pan were, in the 1930's, located in Mount Pleasant, Staffordshire, England near Stoke-on-Trent.
This Shires Reverso toilet model dates from [about] the 1950's, the pan or base possibly dating from the 1930's. Earlier installations of this Shires toilet placed the cistern higher on the wall and used a pull chain to flush the toilet.
The cistern for this Shires Reverso toilet is plastic.
Above and below we illustrate the brand marking for Shires New Reverso cisterns and toilet pans or bases.
Shires Bathrooms, a british manufacturer of the Shires toilet / toilet cistern models included
Below: an image of the Whieldon Sanitary Potteries Ltd., Colonial Pottery factory in Staffordshire in the 1930's, excerpted from a larger image, original source:
britainfromabove.org.uk/image/epw042661 Whieldon Sanitary Potteries, once so large that the company had its own railway stop, was acquired by Doulton & Co., in 1937.
Doulton was bought by S. Pearson & Co. in 1971. Thomas Whieldon, was a British potter who is said to have been a mentor to Josiah Wedgwood.
(Aug 23, 2019) Colin harvey said:
Shires reverso. What’s it worth ?
Thanks for the Shires Reverso toilet value question, Colin.
I did some searching on Shires Reverso toilets and toilet parts for sale and found that it is rare to see an entire Shires Reverso toilet for sale. I think this is because rather than wishing to install an new "antique" Shires toilet, the principal market is for replacement parts for these loos.
Because the most-common part lost is the toilet cistern or tank lid that is dropped and damaged or broken, there is a market for Shires Reverso cistern lids. Prices ranged from about £29.00 to £50.00 with the most-common cistern lid eBay price of £48.00
A Shires Reverso cistern might sell for £70.00 to £140.00 for a complete Shires Naiad cistern replica.
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2019/11/13 Wes said:
The attached picture is of a VERY heavy weighted seat. The rigid iron bracket is affixed in such a way that the seat would have to be pulled down to sit on. Then, it would raise from the counterweight when you got up. Any ideas as to how old, special usage etc? (says 1XL PHILA 12 on the iron) THANKS!!
How interesting; This invention - self-lifting or counter-weighted toilet seats intended to improve sanitation have been around in North America since around 1913 (Waltensperger US Patent 79150413) and there was a flurry of such inventions in the U.S. from the late 1930s into the 1940s, but of course continuing to the present.
Let's do some research for your specific counterweighted toilet seat mechanism (which is incomplete in your photo). Look very closely all over the seat and any other parts you got with it to see if there is a trademark or US PATENT NO with some numbers and report that back here.
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Here is an example, Porter's patented "sterile Toilet" US Pat No 2332111 from the year I was born, 1943.
Thank you very much for your response. I find this topic fascinating as to the evolution of toilets.
After your response, I checked, somewhat more closely than I would normally care to, for other markings. None found. However, I have since discovered that IXL is actually the trademark for a plumbing company in Philadelphia. I have included here:
(Found inside at p. 156: The “ I X L " Anti-Freezing Closet Combination is guaranteed against freezing, if properly set. It consists of a low-down galvanized tank with lid; porcelain-lined oval-llusliing rim hopper; Iinislicd oak swinging-seat, with equalized weight, ...) a passage from a site advertising an anti-freezing toilet with a seat quite similar to this one.
I have included another image (the bottom) of this seat. Again, I so thank you, and please enlighten me further if you can/will.
Thanks for the additional photo and the identification of the seat as an IXL toilet seat.
I think the anti-freezing feature of the IXL Closet would of course depended on designs other than the counter-weighted toilet seat and that the weights were either to make a heavy oak toilet seat easy to lift (to encourage those users who ought to raise the seat ...) or in some designs the counter-weights were to make a normally-raised toilet seat for sanitary reasons.
Gabbe's 1916 water closet valve patent was in fact assigned to IXL which gives us a bit more of the history and dates involved.
Here are some patents assigned to I X L and their dates
Tracing I.X.L. history is a but of a muddle since there were I.X.L. companies identified also in Atlanta - IXL Enterprises and IXL Holdings.
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And your find about the I.X.L. Anti-Freezing Closet Combination (below) appeared in the 1911 Year Book of the ... Annual Architectural Exhibition Held by the Philadelphia Chapter of the American Institute of Architects and the T-square Club of Philadelphia, Volume 17
There were a number of "anti-freezing" valve and toilet designs around the turn of the last century as plumbing began to move inside from the hand-pump and outhouse and while central heating was still limited and uneven in heat distribution in buildings.
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The Trenton Potteries Co. was formed in 1894 from five potteries including Enterprise which had been on this site since 1879. This conglomerate made sanitary ware: domestic, industrial, and institutional.
The Company makers mark was a five pointed star encircling a number between one and six. The number ‘4’ designated Enterprise Pottery.” - History of Trenton Potteries Co., (Enterprise Pottery) (Abramson 1978)
The toilet shown above, for sale on eBay in 2022, was described by the vendor as an antique, original toilet manufactured by Trenton Potteries, Co., made in the 1930s, with these
Approximate measurements:
Overall - 38 3/4"tall x 21 1/2"wide x 29"depth
Floor to rim of Bowl - 16 1/4"
Seat mounts - 5 1/2" apart on center
The waste outlet is 4" outside diameter
Rough in - 16"
Spud diameter - 2"
Below: another Trenton Potteries toilet, described by WorthPoint and marked as "Bellemeade Jr." believed by the writer to be a Welling toilet.
- above toilet discussed by a vendor / pricing guide at WorthPoint https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/antique-1910s-1920s-toilet-bowl-wall-1818326195 2022/08/24
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Below you will find questions and answers previously posted on this page at its page bottom reader comment box.
Hello,we found an old toilet in an old building in Shanghai. Is there anyone know about this brand " rivolite "?
We can not find any information about this brand or company in China.
Thank you for any useful informationReply by InspectApedia Publisher (mod)
@Eric Hua,
Thanks for the excellent Rivolite toilet photo - I'm doing some further research on the brand and history and will post any findings here.
Can you tell me the age of the building in Shanghai?
And if you have a guess at the plumbing system's age that'd be helpful too.
Thanks
DanielOn 2024-09-12 Eric Hua
@InspectApedia Publisher,
Hello,Daniel!
This house is located in the French Concession of Shanghai and was built in 1923.
The plumbing system's age is same with the house, I think.
Thanks!
On 2024-09-12 Reply by InspectApedia Publisher (mod) - History of the Rivolite Toilet by JD Gordon - Gordon & Co. Ltd. Heating & Sanitary Engineers
@Eric Hua
The company that produced the Rivolite toilet, County Council Pattern, in your photo, is named in the logo as Gordon & Co., Ltd. Shanghai & Hankow.
That name most likely brings us to
Andrew Howard Gordon (Shanghai), an engineer and manager of the British and Electrical and Engineering Co., of China, Ltd. who arrived ca. 1920 - in "The China Who's Who 1922: A Biographical Dictionary compiled and published by Carroll Lunt" - p. 118 - screen shot
found at https://archive.org/stream/chinawhoswho1922/chinawhoswho1922_djvu.txt
AND to an earlier JD Gordon who may have been a relative and antecedent to AH Gordon, and who managed the company that made your toilet:
J.D. Gordon, managing director of Gordon & Co., Ltd. Heating and Sanitary Engineers, Sanitary Engineers, 110, Szechuen Road; Teleph. 1108. Tel. Ad.: Hardware
D.W. Crawford Director
Ed. White do.
J.D. Gordon, Managing Director
et als - see screen shot below from p. 685 from the 1919 edition of Shanghai, Chronicle and Directory to Families of Shanghai
https://www.chinafamilies.net/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/1919-Chronicle-and-Directory-for-China-Shanghai-1vwvx05.pdf
JD Gordon Sanitary Engineers dates back to earlier Who's Who editions at least as far as 1906.
In turn, a much earlier Gordon who was more widely known was
Charles George Gordon - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_George_Gordon
- a possible antecedent to the Gordon of the ceramics company JD Gordon (though we have no direct evidence of that connection)
Gordon Road in Shanghai, cited in AH Gordon's book (below) appears to have been named for Charles George GordonThis citation also mentions Gordon Road -
York Lo: From No 1 on the Bund in Shanghai to Kaolin Mine in Cha Kwo Ling – the Century Old China Coast Saga of the McBains
https://industrialhistoryhk.org/from-no-1-on-the-bund-in-shanghai-to-kaolin-mine-in-cha-kwo-ling-the-century-old-china-coast-saga-of-the-mcbains/
Also - see this PDF: https://www.bnasie.eu/Asset/Source/bnBook_ID-1_No-1.pdf
Streets of Shanghai: A History in Itself by A.H. Gordon
PART OF:
Printed material
MADE:
1914
PART OF ARCHIVE:
Kenneth Cantlie Archive
MAKER:
Cantlie, Kenneth
https://collection.sciencemuseumgroup.org.uk/documents/aa110109586
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On 2024-02-08 by Susan Powers Need repair for this 1910 Flushometer toilet in New Jersey
Looking for someone to repair this 1910 toilet. We’ve had this and the other 3 in our home repaired in the past but now a days can’t find someone with that knowledge.
We’re located in NJ just a few miles from Philadelphia.
Attaching a photo. Any advice would be appreciated.
Thank you.
Reply by InspectApedia Publisher (mod)
@Susan Powers,
The toilet uses a water pressure-powered valve called a flushometer to flush the toilet.Replacement parts are available for those valves although if yours is a very old one or is seriously damaged, in the worst case the whole valve would be replaced. Any plumber ought to be able to install a new flushometer.
On 2023-12-18 y Anonymous - How do I remove an antique toilet without damage?
This toilet is located in what used to be the carriage house/help quarters and it was installed around 1913. I'd like to remove it intact but am unsure how to go about it.
On 2023-12-18 by InspectApedia-911 (mod)
@Anonymous,
Check that outer rim at the base at the floor. Is it cast iron?
If so, I think think that the tapered base of this antique toilet was inserted directly into the cast iron waste pipe hub and then sealed, perhaps by pouring molten lead into the rim of the hub.
An experienced plumber might use a torch to melt the lead.
Or is it a cement mix in that pipe joint?
Where is this building?
On 2023-09-09 y Tom Azevedo - Circle Z toilet from 1927
We have a toilet that is circa 1927. There is a Z within a circle mark on it made in Robinson Illinois. Would anyone know the company?
On 2023-09-10 by InspectApedia Publisher (mod)
@Tom Azevedo,
I don't recall that circle Z toilet brand or trademark but if you'd be kind enough to post a sharp high-resolution photo of the logo I will be glad to research it further.
Using a second comment please also post a photo of the toilet itself.
On 2023-01-31 by Chris Roper What's the history of this weighted toilet seat in an antique shop in Hawaii
Do you know anything about this toilet seat ? The copper balls are heavy and attached to the hinge on a adjustable shaft. Could it be part of a self flushing toilet ? The weights are a lot more than is need to lift the seat.
I located your website and found out a lot about Anti Freezing Closet Seats, thanks.
I found a weighted toilet seat in an antique shop in Hawaii (strange location for such a device) and have been looking for info on it for days. The casting is stamped S.A.S.S on the inside. I would like to find out more and build a self flushing closet.
Any help is much appreciated. The casting is brass and the balls are a copper mix.
Like the IXL Anti freezing closet seat hinge assembly but a bit more upscale in look.
On 2023-01-31 by InspectApedia Publisher - Anti-Freezing & Self-Closing Antique Wooden Toilet Seats
@Chris
Wooden toilet seats have been in use since early in the history of toilets and were not confined to cold climates.
I think that those heavy weights tell us that this was intended to be a self-closing seat; the weights have nothing to do with the heat-retaining properties of the seat itself.
Some weighted toilet seat hinge mechanisms used the weight and movement of the seat hinge to automate a toilet flush mechanism - not parts that we can see in the seat that you found in Hawaii. On those seats, the weights and hinge assembly raise the seat when the user gets up from the toilet.
Watch out: Warning about self-closing (or not) heavy wooden toilet seats:
A heavy wooden toilet seat, if flipped down carelessly, will slam down with a bang - risking damage to the toilet and in the worst case, a plumbing flood.
Shown below is a badly-cracked toilet bowl that was broken by the calamitous falling of a heavy wooden toilet seat that slammed down, perhaps more than once. (To head off a plumbing flood disaster, we replaced this Poughkeepsie New York (Kohler) toilet in December 2022.)
Some modern plastic toilet seats are so light that slamming the seat or lid down may be noisy but not harmful.
Nevertheless, many modern toilet seats, regardless of their composition, use a self-closing hinge assembly that provides friction or uses other means to slow the lowering of both seat and lid (if a lid is present) to a more gentle-closing.
At TOILET REPLACEMENT PROCEDURE you can see the step by step process of replacing a toilet, using the cracked toilet above as our starting point.
And as a note for other readers:
To avoid a bit of confusion about the phrase "Anti-Freezing Toilet Seats",
the popular use of that phrase simply refers to toilet seats that don't feel freezing cold to one's naked bottom when sitting on the toilet.
Generally, wooden toilet seats don't get as cold as plastic alternatives and, of course, for loos whose toilets sport no seat, sitting on bare ceramic is pretty-much always cold.
An example is shown below, as sold by Walmart. The product description reads:
ActFu Toilet Seat Ring Anti-freeze Stretchy Useful Universal Thicken Plush Toilet Seat Cushion.
More properly, freeze protection for building plumbing systems, including pipes and toilets, can be read at
WINTERIZE A BUILDING - home https://inspectapedia.com/plumbing/Pipe_Freeze_Protection.php where, among a number of other topics, we discuss use of anti-freeze in heating systems and food-grade anti-freeze in RV water supply pipes.On 2023-02-01 by Chris Roper
The position of the weights can be adjusted and they have way to much force to just lift the seat. There is no other attachment points on the casting but I think it is like the IXL unit as the weight must push something to flush the toilet. Have you ever heard of S.A.S.S as a manufacturer ?
On 2023-02-01 by InspectApedia Publisher
@Chris Roper,
That's interesting. It just looks like the total mass of the weights is quite a bit more than just the mass of what's likely to be the weight of the seat itself so it's reasonable to think they were also doing something else.
I don't know that manufacturer but we can both do some research to see what we can find.
On 2022-12-06 by Carol
I have a floor flush button and need the mechanism that connects from the button to the flushometer in the wall behind the wall mounted toilet. I believe it’s a cable with a spring and pointy part.
On 2022-12-06 by InspectApedia (Editor)
@Carol,
You might try posting a photo of the toilet, identifying its brand if you can, and its country and city of location and its age, or if you don't know that, the age of the building.
On 2022-10-19 by John Castle - Vogel toileyts still in use at the Winterthur Museum, Garden & Library
Here at Winterthur Museum, Garden & Library we have several Vogel Toilets still on the property and one is still in use.
Early 20th century for sure. Mr. Vogel actually lived not far from the museum. We even have a few vogel yard hydrants still in service as well.
On 2022-10-19 by InspectApedia-911 (mod) - Early 20th century Vogel toilets
@John Castle,
Thank you for that interesting comment. If you could post some photos, one for comment, that would be a great addition to this topic and of course we're glad to refer our readers to Winterthur - at
5105 Kennett Pike, Winterthur, DE 19735 USA
On 2022-04-05 by Janet Schnees
I have 2 of these toilets, can you tell me how they were used. They have a removable bucket inside.
On 2022-04-06 by Inspectapedia Com Moderator (mod)
@Janet Schnees,
Please find your recently-posted question(s) or comments along with our reply now at the Reader Q&A section near the bottom of the article
ANTIQUE CHAMBER POTS & CLOSE STOOLS
On 2021-12-14 by Ken - Harlem toilet brand in upper Easet Side of Manhattan, New York
Many years ago, I rented a Railroad Flat on the Upper East Side in Manhattan. It had the toilets out in the hallway. I remember that the toilet was round and said inside "The Harlem" Is anyone familiar with this, and possibly know the date and manufacturer?
On 2021-12-14 by Inspectapedia Com Moderator (mod) - Harlem brand toilets
@Ken,
Thanks for the Harlem brand toilet question. I've researched our data and on line but not found information about the Harlem toilet company.
Searching for Harlem Toilet Company does turn up some nice historical details about toilets in NYC.
1867 New York State’s first Tenement Act required: a toilet for every 20 residents
But note that that act would have included outdoor outhouses - common throughout the city even into the 1930s.
Let's keep looking.
On 2021-02-0 by Peter - age of a porcelain / cast iron toilet
I have a porcelene covered cast iron toilet and separate tank and lit also cast iron. Any guesses on dates?
On 2021-02-03 by (mod) - porcelain covered cast iron toilet with separate tank: how old is it?
Sorry Peter but from just that information alone I can't guess a manufacture date for your toilet; try looking for any stamps or markings or patent numbers and then attach a photo or two (one per comment).
On 2021-01-26 by Erin - Wo manufactured this old cistern tamped J W?
Can you tell me the manufacturer of this old cistern please. It has _J W _ stamped into it .
Found this in and old house.
Owner said I could have it
Is it worth getting - by private email 2021/07/26
Moderator reply: prices for high wall-tank flush toilets can be over $1000 for new reproductions
OPINION: If the toilet and tank can be cleaned and made very presentable you can probably re-sell it as an "antique high-tank toilet" online, e.g. at eBay.
A new "antique" high-tank toilet sells by modern vendors for over $1000. U.S.
However I'm doubtful that many people who would pay $1000 for a toilet want the particular model in your photo - give the base type and issues around trap seal;
Further: if yours is a metal toilet badly rusted and pitted you'll have an expense to have it cleaned, smoothed, and re-painted.
Attach a photo if you find any brand or logo marks on the toilet or it flush tank.
Tell me the Country/City where this toilet is located and the age of the building where it is installed.
See if you can find an antique toilet like yours for sale online and look at that price (not the high prices I cited) and compare that with the restoration cost.
On 2020-05-17 by Nancy - Setting a price on a Shanks Patent antique toilet tank
How much can u pay for my antique toilet tank
On 2020-05-17 by (mod) -
Sorry, Nancy, but we do not buy nor sell anything. No products, no services.
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On 2020-03-20 by Dale - Old toilet cast iron water runs when you set on it
Old toilet cast iron water runs when you set on it water valve below ground drain valve so it doesn't freeze we used in outside crapper want to know about what year it might be
On 2020-03-20 - by (mod) -
Dale
Use the "add image" button to attach photos of the toilet (one image per comment) and of any imprints, logos, etc. and I'll be glad to research the device further.
On 2020-08-02 by Donny Melancon
This is a fantastic website. I appreciate the lengths that you go through to stay un-bias. not a common trait these days, but very much needed. I do have a 1927 standard sanitary wall mount cast iron / porcelain water tank, and a 1920 bowl that i would like a value on, or put me in contact with someone that might be able to help me . thank you
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