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Cultured stone fauz stone veneer Fountain Place Poughkeepsie NY (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.comPerma-Stone Exterior Siding

History, brands, photos, descriptions, & properties of faux stone & brick permastone siding

Guide to building perma-stone siding & wall claddings.

Photo above: Permastone installed on a Poughkeepsie home.

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Perma Stone faux stone, brick & similar exterior wall cladding

Permastone exterior siding on a NY home (C) InspectApedia.com

Here we discuss the history of and explain how to identify, inspect, install, or repair permastone type exterior wall coverings.

While there have been a number of companies, extending into the present, who use the Perma-Stone or Perma-Rock or permastone product names and brands, two of the larger producers were the Perma-Stone Company and Perma-Rock Products, Inc. who managed to fight among one another about trademark rights and violations.

Permastone or Formstone, popular in North America roughly between 1950 and 1980, could be in installed on a building using one of two very different approaches:

  1. Pre-fabricated permastone veneer sections were manufactured off-site, transported, nailed to the building, and joints between those sections were then filled with tooled and colored mortar.
  2. On-site multi-layer stucco-type application of Formstone or Permastone (two different products) were applied over expanded metal lath nailed to the building.

When it was applied as a multi-layer stucco-type coating on-site, permastone usually consisted of an expanded metal lath nailed to the building, to which three layers were applied:

  1. Mortar cement 3/8" to 3/4" thick, scored similarly to the scratched browncoat used in interior plaster systems
  2. Cement layer 1/4" to 3/8" thick
  3. Finished, colored, stone-patterned or tooled layer 1/4" to 3/8" thick.

    As the illustration (McKee 1995) shows, the stone patterns were formed in the top cement layer by pressing forms into the still-soft final layers or by using a textured aluminum roller to form the stone surface by pressing on the wax-paper protected top surface of the cementious coating.

    Once the pattern was applied to the surface grooves were cut to resemble stone mortar joints.
Permastone or Formstone being applied using a pre-formed die pressed into the stucco top coat -  McKee 1995 cited at InspectApedia.comVariations in the color of the stone surface, obtained by mixing coloring agents into the top coat of mortar, gave a natural stone appearance to the finished surface. Stone colors could be gray, red, tan, brown, greenish-gray, etc.

McKee points out that variations in color could also be applied '... by dashing colored powdered materials such as "mica, oxide pigments, stone dust, slate dust or chips of mineral or artificial stone on the outer layer. This produces a speckled surface, simulating natural rocks or stones'".

Perma-stone, also called formstone, was invented and patented by Albert Knight in 1937 and was sold by the Lasting Products Company.

Originally "formstone" was sold as a stucco product that was applied to brick row-houses as a renovation improvement in East Coast cities in the United States. (Wikipedia 2019)

Permastone or "perma-stone" is a simulated stone product sold in sheets that are fastened as a veneer layer over a building's pre-existing exterior siding or possibly directly over wall sheathing to provide what looks like a real stone or stone veneer wall.

Permastone or other simulated stone products joined asphalt siding, asbestos cement siding, and later aluminum or vinyl siding widely sold as a cover-over applied to older buildings to provide a "more attractive" or more durable exterior that required little or no maintenance (compared with painting).

The pre-existing building exterior that was a candidate for a permastone covering may have been peeling, rotted, or otherwise damaged wood clapboards, but permastone was also applied over stucco and other building exterior walls too.

Permastone was usually applied by masons as an alternative to a stone veneer, for which there remains even today a construction career category of "permastone applicator".

"Permastone" also makes an appearance under categories of synthetic stone flooring materials.

Modern restoration architects generally consider permastone to be an inappropriate treatment that is to be removed from historic buildings during a restoration or renovation project. (Roanoke undated).

Permastone exterior siding on a NY home (C) InspectApedia.com

Above and below, two versions of Formstone or Permastone on homes in North America. The first - above- illustrates regular rectangular long stretcher courses of stonework, while our second photo (below) illustrates a random stone pattern of Permastone.

Permastone exterior siding on a NY home (C) InspectApedia.com

Where was Permastone or Formstone Installed?

Permastone / Formstone was installed first in Baltimore but eventually across much of the East Coast of the U.S.

Some of the Permastone photos in this article were photographed by the author [DF] in New York and New Jersey.

Damage & Trouble-Spots in Permastone Exterior Wall Covering

Permastone exterior siding on a NY home (C) InspectApedia.com

Above: this cracked permastone exterior covering might be due to building settlement or simply a failure of the fasteners of the permastone expanded metal lath sheets to the building exterior or failure due to water penetration of the formstone or permastone layer sufficient to cause rust deterioration of (non-galvanized) expanded mesh or metal lath. Further investigation of this building is needed.

Permastone exterior siding on a NY home (C) InspectApedia.com

Above: here we see that a patio abutting a permastone exterior has settled, risking water entry and water or frost damage to the building foundation or wall.

Permastone exterior siding on a NY home (C) InspectApedia.com

Above: the permastone applied to this building wall was itself in good condition.

But water entry around as well as into the tops of the original (red) deck joists caused a rot problem that the owner attempted to address by sistering new treated lumber to the original joists. What may be a worry is whether or not the original joist ends still provide a secure structural connection between the deck and the building.

Asbestos in Older Cultured Stone or Faux Stone Veneer Walls

Stone veneer on a 1953 home (C) InspectApedia.com RoxieQuestion: does this faux stone wall contain asbestos?

2019/02/14: Roxie said:

Have you seen this faux stone before? It’s on a 1953 home.. do you think it is made of asbestos ?

This question and reply were posted originally at ASBESTOS LIST of PRODUCTS

Reply:

Roxie:

I don't know. Possibly not.

It would help to know the home's country and city and to know when the stone veneer wall was installed.

Some faux brick and faux stone veneers contain asbestos but at least by a quick search, it's evident that not all of those products did so.

I have seen similar faux-stone exterior wall coverings on homes in the U.S. in the Northeast as well as the South, such as PermaStone (subject also of a trademark dispute).

Below: a home on Fountain Place in Poughkeepsie, NY

Cultured stone fauz stone veneer Fountain Place Poughkeepsie NY (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.comSome of those products contained asbestos, as reflected in the following Cultured Stone or Faux Stone or "Permastone" patent disclosure in the French, Ishi, and Weir patents cited below.

But not all of these products contained asbestos. For example the word "asbestos" does not appear in the Stuckey or Volent patents cited below.

Also see

asbestos hazards discussed at

SYNTHETIC SLATE ASBESTOS

and at

STONE VENEER WALLS

Permastone & Formstone History & Patent Research

FormStone logo used on buildngs where the hand-tooled coating was applied - cited & discussed at InspectApedia.comPhoto: the FormStone logo and plaque installed on some buildings where this product was installed.

Other Exterior Wall Coverings Similar to PermaStone

Other Exterior Wall Coverings to Distinguish from PermaStone or Formstone

Photograph of - damaged vinyl siding

Above: asbestos cement shingle siding. See details

at ASBESTOS CEMENT & CEMENT BOARD & FIBER CEMENT SIDING

Asbestos cement siding are a hard, cementious building material made from cement and asbestos fibers as well as asbestos filler.

Fiber cement siding products are a hard, cementious material that uses (usually) wood fibers to add strength and body - replacing more hazardous asbestos fibers. For modern non-asbestos materials see details

at FIBER CEMENT SIDING.

PHOTO of asphalt siding on the Coolidge Hotel, White River Junction Vermont

Above: asphalt-based faux-brick siding. Some faux-stone or faux-brick veneer siding products were bonded to or made using a hardboard (wood product) base rather than an asphalt-impregnated paper or board base.

Asphalt siding: materials similar to asphalt roof shingles, used as building siding, designed to resemble brick, wood, or other materials, popular from ca 1930 - 1955.
See details

at SIDING ASPHALT SHINGLE or SHEET

Very loose brick veneer wall (C) Daniel Friedman

Above: brick veneer wall, partly-demolished. See details at BRICK VENEER WALLS

Stamped concrete exterior wall (C) InspectApedia.com

Above: Stamped Concrete exterior walls on this home look like permastone but are not. Stamped concrete is a continuous concrete material.

STONE VENEER WALLS - some permastone products contain asbestos

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Question: how to find a Permastone / Formstone repair company

2020/03/09 RAK said:

Hi - I have what I believe to be Formstone or Permastone on my home, built around 1957. My front porch has a planter with this material on the outside crumbling and in desperate need of repair, if possible.

The same product on the side of my house is in excellent condition, but apparently moisture from the planter has destroyed it in this area.

How do I find someone skilled in this area to fix it? I am in an Eastern Suburb of Pittsburgh.

Reply: Repair Advice for Permastone or Formstone sided building s

It may be tricky to find a Perma-Stone repair company since the material is not in current or popular use. Here are some possible sources of repair companies who know how to work with synthetic stone and masonry veneers

  1. Companies specializing in repair of historic buildings can include people with specific experience repairing Formstone or Permastone - we include examples below.
  2. Possibly an older mason who has worked with it in the past may still be around.
  3. Look for "brick and stone siding repair companies" but ask if they have specific experience with your siding since otherwise they'll try to sell you a complete home re-siding job that you may not need nor want.

You might also try contacting companies and professional associations listed below. Even a company not in your immediate area may know someone qualified who is close to you.


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