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Efflorescence Stains on Slate, Clay or Concrete Roofs
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White efflorescence salts or stains on building clay, concrete, or slate roofs.
Salt Deposits, Brown & White Bubbly or Fluffy Crystalline Deposits
Diagnostic & Identification Photographs.
This article series illustrates and explains white or sometimes reddish brown bubbly surfaces on walls and white powdery or crystalline deposits left on walls, especially masonry walls, by moisture - efflorescence.
Our photo at page top shows white efflorescence staining on the under-side of a clay tile roof in San Miguel de Allende, Guanajuato, Mexico.
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White Efflorescence & Other Stains on Clay, Concrete Tile or Slate Roofs
White efflorescence can often appear on clay tile roofs, concrete roofs, and slate roofs as you can see in our slate roof photo here and on the clay tile roof at page-top.
Types of White Effloresence on Slate, Concrete, Clay Tile Roofing
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Age indication on slate roofs:
Photo just above: on a slate roof round white deposits starting at the center of the slate and expanding towards its perimeter can be an indication of roof age and condition.
On concrete or clay tile roofs efflorescence may be a sign of moisture absorption, deterioration, or it may be due to use of concrete mortar used to set the roof tiles along a clay or concrete tile hip or ridge.
Unlike on slate, white effloresence stains on clay or concrete roof tiles doesn't usually threaten the remaining roof life.
Excerpting from "Hip and Ridge MOrtar Generated Surface Effloresence", from the Tile Roofing Industry Alliance TRIA -
Efflorescence is a temporary surface discoloration common to all concrete based building materials
including mortar and concrete roof tiles.
It is superficial and in no way detrimental to the overall
quality, structural integrity, or functional properties of the tile. [1]
Other White, Red, Brown or Tan Stains on Slate or other Masonry Material Roofs
White stains on clay or concrete tile roofs may be caused by natural weathering of mortar used to attach the tiles to the roof or mortar used as weather blocking at hips, ridges, valleys, and on some roofs, at the open ends of clay tiles
Dark brown, black, and occasionally reddish or even green stains on slate, clay tile, or concrete tile roofs may be from algae.
Brown or red stains on slate may be due to oxidation of phyrrhotite or pyrite inclusions or iron sulfides in the roofing slates themselves. These inclusion occur depending on the quarry where the slate was mined and of course on individual slate variations. See the articles by Cárdenes Van den Eynde below on this page.
If you see red streaks that appear to originate at a specific inclusion on a slate and that run down-roof from that point, I think you're seeing a combination of oxidation of an inclusion in the slate and the wash-down of iron orxides or sulfides from that point onto the surface of lower slates.
Red or reddish brown or occasionally yellow stains on roofs, found below a chimney, may be also due to rusting metal flashing or to run-down of chimney soot or smoke deposits.
Other roof stain colors may be made worse or changed but not removed by use of the wrong cleaner or chemical on the roof surface.
Watch out: At the reader Q&A below on this page we discuss with a reader stains left on her slate roof after they applied a rust stain remover. We don't have enough details but it's possible that the reader was trying to remove iron stains that occur as a result of weathering natural iron or other ore inclusions found in some slates.
Doing so is not going to remove those "red spot" (for example) and risks damaging the roof and shortening its life.
Slate Standards Performance & Deterioration:
Effect of Using Acid Cleaners on Slate or Tile Roofs
California Slate Co., SLATE & CLAY TILE TESTING [PDF] California Slate Company, Inc. 3344 Market Street San Francisco, CA 94114 USA, Tel: (888) 994-0842
info@CaliforniaSlateCompany.com retrieved 2022/09/25 original source: https://californiaslatecompany.com/testing
Excerpt:
A piece of slate’s resistance to corrosion is tested by submerging the slate in a weak solution of acid for a particular amount of time and then examining the surface of the slate.
The deeper the acid solution was able to penetrate the rock, the lower the quality of slate. Generally, harder rock is more resistant to corrosion than softer rock.
Cárdenes Van den Eynde, Víctor AN OVERVIEW of ROOFING SLATE STANDARDS [PDF] (2020) retrieved 2022/09/25, original source: https://www.cupapizarras.com/usa/news/roofing-slate-standards/#:~:text=ASTM%20C%2D406.-,Acid%20exposure,through%20a%20process%20called%20gypsification.
Excerpt: Some iron sulfides alteration causes oxidation, which can be seen as brown to red stain marks over the surface of the tile. Oxidation is far the main cause of complaints and rejections, even when is just a aesthetical issue. On the other hand, gypsification can lead to the tile destruction, but it has less impact on the complaints.
Cárdenes Van den Eynde, Víctor QUALITY FACTORS in SLATES - Part I [PDF] (2013) Op. Cit., retrieved 2022/09/25 original source: https://roofingslate.wordpress.com/tag/oxidation/
Prieto, Beatriz, Perla Ferrer, Patricia Sanmartín, Victor Cárdenes, and Benita Silva. "Color characterization of roofing slates from the Iberian Peninsula for restoration purposes." Journal of Cultural Heritage 12, no. 4 (2011): 420-430.
Cárdenes, Víctor, Javier García-Guinea, C. Monterroso, and R. De la Horra. "Protocol for assessing the effectiveness of protective coatings for roofing slate." Materiales de Construcción 58, no. 289-290 (2008): 263-279.
Levine, Jeffrey S., The REPAIR, REPLACEMENT an MAINTENANCE of HISTORIC SLATE ROOFS [PDF] U.S. National Park Service, Technical Preservation Services, retrieved 2022/09/25, original source: https://www.nps.gov/tps/how-to-preserve/briefs/29-slate-roofs.htm
Levine notes that Atmospheric acids produce only negligible deterioration in slate roofs.
but we can not assume that's the case when applying a concentrated acid cleaner directly to a slate roof surface.
Lombardero, Manuel, and Javier García-Guinea. "The geology of roofing slate." Geological Society of London, 2001.
Abstract"
This paper reviews the geological factors linked to the quarrying and quality of roofing slate deposits, and gives recent research results on the loss of fissility by dewatering, and the oxidation of iron sulphides. Mineralogy, resulting (from the original protolith composition and the metamorphic grade, controls the colour, brightness and durability of slate tiles.
The microtexture of the rock mainly controls the split fitness of slate (fissility). The structure: (folding, slaty cleavage development, So-S1 angle, lack of crenulation cleavage and kink-bands, joints and faults) controls the exploitability. Additional factors, such as bed thickness and changes in facies are also important.
Both very cold environments, giving frost, and arid conditions, drying the rock enough to remove water, produce a loss of fissility in slate.
Ostwald-ripening by dewatering and some collapse of the crystallographic structure of phyllosilicates cause the loss.
A mineralogical study of the iron sulphides in roofing Spanish slate (pyrite, pyrrhotite, marcasite), encompassing crystal habit and size, and their biochemical alteration processes (stain spots), allow the oxidation behaviour of different slates to be predicted.
Question: using an iron / rust stain remover on our natural slate roof left white "efflorescence" that won't come off
While cleaning a natural slate roof we applied a rust stain remover. Once the rust remover effectively removed the rust we now have various areas of efflorescence where the remover was applied.
We tried vinegar and water with no results. We tried an efflorescence remover from powerwash.com with no results. Any suggestions? - Amanda Dooley, 2022/09/24
I've been thinking about your question for a time before trying a reply as I don't have a great answer. But in researching the effect of an acid cleaner on slate roofs we did find some information that I'll share below.]
What was the source of "iron stains"
on your roof that you found a concern. Iron staining from rusting metal flashing or from a chimney byproduct is completely different from iron inclusions in the slate itself .
Watch out: some slate contains iron inclusions, iron sulphides, including pyrite (FeS2) which can be oxidized by acids (hence using an iron remover) BUT if you dissolved inclusions in the slate you could have left it seriously-damaged, even with holes or thinning that could reduce the slate's remaining life.
Particularly if there are iron (Pyrrhotite) inclusions in the slate that are quite thick, dissolving them could leave a thin area or in the most-extreme cases a hole in the slate. (Cardenes 2013)
So we need to know more about your roof.
It would be most helpful to see some sharp photos (one per comment) both from a distance and up close of one or two slates so that we can see what you're seeing.
What are the slate roof's environment, location, condition:
Second I need to know the location of the building (country & city) and age of the slate.
And if your roof is true slate, not a manufactured product, we'll want to see if your slates had iron inclusions.
Watch out: other readers: Amanda's roof is "natural slate" - but if your "slate" roof isn't true slate ( a mined stone product) but is a manufactured slate such as made by Eternit your acid could have actually removed a coloring agent from the roof material. That's not going to be cured by further cleaning
Was your Iron Remover Approves as Safe for Slate Roofs & applied as directed?
I see that the Rust Remover Plus product sold by power wash (cited below) whom you cite, is intended to be used with a power washer.
I would not recommend power-washing a slate roof - but, then, perhaps you didn't apply a high-pressure spray to the roof: do tell me how you applied this chemical.
The manufacturer's instructions are simple:
1. Rust Remover Plus™ is a concentrated rust stain remover.
It can be applied directly, or diluted with water up to a 1:5
mixture.
The exact dilution ratio will depend on the severity of
the rust stain.
2. Apply product with a pump up garden or chemical sprayer
using a cone or fan tip.
Apply evenly with overlapping passes
to insure uniform coverage. Thoroughly wet area to be cleaned
with product.
3. Allow a 5 to 10 minute dwell time for product to soak into
surface.
When using product for rust stain removal, do not
proceed to step 4 until stain disappears. Reapply if necessary.
4. Pressure wash using high pressure with a 40 degree tip. Use
overlapping passes approximately 6 inches from the surface.
5. Allow surface to dry before evaluating results. Product brightens concrete as it dries.
Do not allow product or overspray to come into contact with
glass, metal or tile surfaces. Protect these areas from contact.
Always perform a test in an inconspicuous area to determine results achieved before using on a wide scale basis.
Allow surface to dry prior to evaluating results.
A one-gallon jug of Rust Remover Plus™ will cover approximately 150 to 300 square feet of concrete when used straight.
- IS THAT how you applied the chemical? Including testing it on a small area first?
What's in the chemical you used and what might be its effect on slate?
Ammonium Bifluoride
Phosphoric Acid
Oxalic Acid
Basically acids
Here is the
RUST REMOVER PLUS SDS [PDF] Powerwash, by Delux® Inc., 2300 Cold Springs Road, Fort Worth
TX 76106 USA, Web: https://powerwash.com/ Tel: https://powerwash.com/
1-800-433-2113
Did you use high pressure power washer?
If you used a pressure sprayer you may have soaked the slates more than would normal rain or snow, thus speeding the leaching of minerals to the slate surface.
About using Vinegar to try to Get Rid of Efflorescence on a slate roof
Vinegar will dissolve many surface efflorescent salts but if the white is actually in the body of the slates - as you'll see in the 2 articles I cite below, it is not so easily-removed.
But we don't know yet if the white deposits you see are mineral efflorescence!
What else might the white stains be?
It is possible that the acid in the chemical you used (perhaps not intended for use on slate roofs) not only will release iron oxide but also carbonates that may be what you're seeing as white discoloration that led you to our Efflorescence articles.
Watch out: If so, you may have damaged the slate - though the extent and effect on remaining roof life no one with any sense would predict based merely on some text. The process, among historic preservationists who work on slate, is gypsification.
Efflorescence on slate can be an indication of slate roof age and wear - as we discuss at
Cleaners that may work to remove remaining stains on your roof:
I've emphasized that once we've established that the stains of concern on your specific roof are NOT normal effloresence, we need to have an idea of the chemistry of the stain before choosing a stain remover. For example iron stains may respond to iron stain removers but not to other cleaners.
Watch out: using acids on slate and other sensitive stone materials may damage the roof. Don't use any cleaner product before reviewing its manufacturer's instructions as they apply to your roof.
At EFFLORESCENCE REMOVAL & PREVENTION we discuss some cleaning products that might be used safely on acid-sensitive stone materials such as slate.
So if you are up to answering my blizzard of technical questions we can continue to figure out what happened to your slate roof and what we can do about it.
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