Submersible well pump torque problems & solutions:
Here we explain how to use a torque arrestor & other methods to stop damage to well pump wiring & piping caused by twisting forces as the pump starts.
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2016/08/15 Rodney said:
The submersible pump keeps unscrewing itself even after I glued the threaded coupler. I have to pull it out a 3rd time now. How can I make sure this doesn't happen again. Or is there a more serious problem at hand?
It has great pressure and it works great but right about on the 3rd or 4th day the pump quits I'm sure it's the same thing. I'll know for sure when u pull it tomorrow.
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Rodney:
I suspect that a torque produced when the pump starts is the cause of this un-screwing of the coupler. The rotating torque produced when the submersible well pump turns on tends to rotate the pump in a direction that un-screws the coupling to the drop pipe. The higher the submersible pump horsepower the greater the starting torque or twist motion forces will be.
This same rotating torque can, if the well piping is not centered in the well casing an bore, abrade the well piping ultimately causing it to break or leak. A well pipe slapping around in the well will also damage electrical wiring descending to the well pump.
Finally, the torque imparted by a starting submersible pump can also twist well piping so that that force along leads to pipe breakage, especially when PVC well piping is used.
Well and plumbing experts address the well piping torque problem using several approaches. We discuss these in more detail below.
So, Rodney, you may have to use welded iron pipe to resist pipe breakage due to torque forces.
But in the photos above and below I'm showing another possibility that will work on some submersible well pump systems: a rubber pump torque arrester produced by Everbilt (and a number of other suppliers too) and sold at plumbing and building suppliers.
This photo was taken in a New York Home Depot store where the Everbilt Torque Arrestor sells for under $15.00. The part number is 1001 098 335. Everbilt torque arrestors are made in Canada and sold across North America. Similar products are sold in other countries.
This rubber torque arrestor device attaches around the well piping and then is expanded so that its rubber rib is just snug against the interior of the well casing.
The torque arrestor, by pressing against the well casing sides, is designed to absorb and dampen the twisting torque motion imparted by the submersible pump at the start of a pump-on cycle (a similar force may occur at the end of a pump on cycle too).
The rubber torque arrester shown fits inside of well casings from 4" to 8" in diameter. Below we show the submersible pump torque arrestor assembled.
Some wells may need multiple torque arrestors depending on well depth.
Here is a slightly edited version of what Merrill Manufacturing™, a manufacturer of torque arrestors says about installing these devices:
The first torque arrestor should be placed no more than 3' above the pump, near the bottom of the well.
Use additional rubber torque arrestors at intervals of 75' to 100' along the rising well pipe above the first torque arrestor.
Place the torque arrestor around the drop pipe so that each half is spaced evenly.
Install the lower pipe clamp and tighten.
Install the upper pipe clamp (leave loose) and then push down on the torque arrestor to spread the center portion so it fits the inside of the casing.
Watch out: the object is to expand the torque arrestor outwards from the well pipe so that it fits snugly against the inside of the well casing, but don't expsnd it so much that you cannot push the assembly down into the casing. Don't over-do it.
Just a snug fit, do not spread it so much that it is hard to get it in the casing.
Then tighten the upper clamp.
Watch out: It is very important that the upper clamp is as tight as possible. This will make it easier to remove the pump at a later date.
Note: some sources suggest that you shoudl be sure to tighten the upper clamp on the torque arrestor to 60 inch-pounds. If the torque arrestor upper clamp is too loose, when next attempting to install the new assembly or later when you try to pull the well piping and pump you'll find that the whole assembly slides up or down the well piping.
- source; "Torque Arrestor Installation", Merrill Manufacturing, 315 Flint Drive PO Box 392 Storm Lake, IA 50588-0392 800-831-6962 retrieved 2016/09/22, original source: https://www.merrillmfg.com/product/torque-arrestor-installation - with edits and expansion from other sources.
Note: other sources suggest placing the bottom edge of the first torque arrestor at least 18" above the submersible pump and no more than 24" above the pump assembly.
Watch out: don't spread the torque arrestor so that it fits more than just snug in the well casing or you may later have trouble inserting or removing the well piping from the well.
Really? Some plumbing experts gripe that these torque arrestors don't work well and cause trouble later when you are pulling well piping. Also, bits of debris, gravel, sand, rust flakes falling down the well bore and resting on the upper rim of the torque arrestor may cause it to jam in the well casing.
Above in this discussion we include warnings about proper placement and tightening of the torque arrestor clamps to avoid slipping on the well piping, and a warning not to over-expand the torque arrestor so that it might jam in the well casing.
A second function of the torque arrestor is to keep the well piping centered in the well. This can be a problem if the well bore is not straight or if the well piping flops around in the well casing when the pump starts.
Other devices are sold for centering well piping: you don't have to use a torque arrestor just for that purpose.
All well experts do advise, however, that you use centering spaces to keep well piping centered in the well casing. Otherwise movement of the well piping in the casing is likely to lead to wear, piping leaks, and possibly well casing damage.
In deeper wells or with heavier pumps welding the pipe connections may be required to manage pump torque.
Watch out: be sure to secure both the pump's electrical wiring and the safety rope outside of the torque arrestor routed through other well pipe centering fittings so that if the well pipe arrestor clamp comes loose it won't contact, cut, or damage the wiring or safety rope.
Here is what Franklin Water says about pump torque:
During starting of a submersible pump, the torque developed by the motor must be supported through the pump, delivery pipe or other supports.
Most pumps rotate in the direction which causes unscrewing torque on right-handed threaded pipe or pump stages.
All threaded joints, pumps and other parts of the pump support system must be capable of withstanding the maximum torque repeatedly without loosening or breaking.
Unscrewing joints will break electrical cable and may cause loss of the pump-motor unit.
Now for the kicker:
To safely withstand maximum unscrewing torques with a minimum safety factor of 1.5, tightening all threaded joints to at least 13.57 N-m per motor horsepower is recommended (Table 2A).
It may be necessary to tack or strap weld pipe joints on high horsepower pumps, especially at shallower settings. - Source: 50Hz Submersible Motors, Application, Installation, Maintenance [PDF], Franklin Electric Co, Tel: 800-348-2420, Retrieved 2016/08/15, original source: franklinwater.com/media/123156/50_HZ_AIM.pdf
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