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Photo Guide to Details of Steps to Install the Cinderella Toilet

Here we provide photos and notes giving details of a successful installation of the Cinderella Incinerating Toilet.

This is article #1 of seven articles in this series.

The full list of seven is included just below on this page in our Article Series Contents list.

This article series describes the brands, properties, installation, and maintenance of incinerating toilets - a waterless system for onsite waste disposal where a septic system cannot be installed. Incinerating toilets use electricity or gas to produce heat which literally incinerates the waste.

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Cinderella Incinerating Toilet Installation Details

Cinderella incinerating toilet installation manual: Model: Cinderella Comfort, electric - cited & discussed at InspectApedia.com

Above: the cover of the instruction manual for the Cinderella Comfort incinerating toilet.

The manufacturer provides excellent instruction manuals for the installation of each Cinderella incinerating toilet model. Be sure to obtain and read and follow those instructions. Failure to do so could mean that your installation doesn't work properly or worse, that the installation is unsafe. Always start by reading the instructions.

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In this article we provide detailed photos and notes that expand on the manufacturer's instructions to show how we implemented them in a specific case. These added "how to" details explain and illustrate exact details of every step in the installation of an incinerating toilet.

We include a few tricks of the trade that solve special problems such as how to mount a flat vent cover on a curved log exterior wall, and how to set up chimney sections to measure the correct lengths to which you should cut the material.

We also include details on adding additional chimney/vent bracing at the roof edge to solve what in our OPINION was a very wobbly and potentially problematic exterior vent installation.

Article Series Contents

For ease of page loading and reading we have divided the entire incinerating toilet installation procedure into a series of web pages listed below.

If you prefer to have all of this information together in a single printable document simply download CINDERELLA TOILET INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS - ALL [PDF]

Cinderella Installation: DELIVERY

Cinderella Installation: LOCATION

Cinderella Installation: CLEARANCES & WALL CUTS

Cinderella Installation: AIR INLET & EXHAUST VENT INSTALLATION

Cinderella Installation Page - CHIMNEY INSTALLATION Part 1

Cinderella Installation Page - CHIMNEY INSTALLATION Part 2

Cinderella Installation Page - FINAL STEPS

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Choose & Order an Incinerating Toilet Model, Fuel or Electrical Supply & Chimney / Vent Installation Plan

Example installation of a Cinderella incinerator toilet cited & discussed & under test at InspectApedia.com

Above: a sketch illustrating the third option listed below: a typical through-wall installation of a Cinderella incinerating toilet showing its air intake and exhaust piping extending outdoors and around the roof overhang.

This is the installation that we illustrate in detail in this article and is appropriate for the Cinderella Comfort model electric incinerating toilet installation that we illustrate in detail on this page.

The company provides instructions for several alternative chimney installations including:

  1. routing the chimney out through an exterior wall and up through the building roof overhang
  2. routing the chimney up through the building interior and out through the roof (the toilet will have to be spaced further out from the wall interior surface)
  3. routing the chimney out through an exterior wall and up with an angled jog to clear the roof overhang.

3 Chimney Options for the Cinderella Comfort Toilet Installation - cited & discussed at InspectApedia.com

Notice in the sketch above, adapted from the Cinderella Comfort IO manual, that to develop sufficient draft for the vertical vent to assist the power vent used in the Cinderella Comfort model toilet, the company will specify a minimum total vertical rise (8 ft). as well as specifying a minimum 2 ft. clearance above the roof surface.

At the time of ordering a Cinderella incinerating toilet, you can, and in our opinion usually should, also order the company's installation kit that includes additional parts that you will need to complete the chimney vent system for the toilet.

Be sure to review your installation plan with the company's sales department so that when Cinderella and the installation kit arrive at your home you'll have all of the installation parts needed.

For example, if you are planning to install the toilet vent as illustrated in option #3 just above you will need to add two 45 degree angled pipe elbows to your order.

Watch out: if you are installing the Cinderella Freedom (GAS) toilet model, no bends are allowed: your chimney/vent must be routed straight up from the tee attached to the toilet outlet.

The Cinderella toilet installation kit described and used here includes four chimney vent sections and three threaded rod brackets.

If your chimney installation plan is taking the vent straight up from a tee through the roof or outdoors but without a bend or jog around a soffit that may be all that's needed. To avoid having to penetrate the building roof for this installation we added two angled elbows to permit routing the chimney/vent around the roof overhang.

Cinderella Comfort Order Details

To install, use and maintain the Cinderella toilet described here, we ordered the following:

  • Cinderella Comfort toilet
  • Vent kit with roof feed
  • Ivory electrical receptacle (240VAC)
  • 45 degree elbow pair
  • Bowl liner holder (steel)
  • Maintenance Kit (brush and cleaning equipment including a chimney cleaning brush) illustrated just below

Cinderella incinerating toilet maintenance kit contents (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com

The order total cost was $5,879.22. That seems quite expensive, right?

Well no, not if you compare the cost of the toilet and its installation with the cost of a traditional water-operated toilet that you can buy for under $200. However, to that you have to add the cost of a septic tank and drainfield that typically starts at around $15,000 and can top $30,000 at a difficult site. In addition, you must also add a portion of the cost of a building water supply system to supply the flush toilet with water.

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Check the Cinderella Toilet Packaging and Contents On Arrival

Inspect the Cinderlla toilet packaging for damage at time of delivery (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com

Notice that the tight strapping used by the freight company has crushed the boxes packaged atop of the Cinderella toilet's main package.

Watch out: at the time of delivery be sure to check all of the packaging of your Cinderella toilet for damage. If you do find damage be sure to contact the company right away.

Damaged shipment box for Cinderella toilet  - (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com

Above: a deep gouge and rip in the packaging of our Cinderella toilet raised a concern but as you can see below, when we unpacked the unit, other than a minor scuff on the toilet's face, it was undamaged.

Unwrapping the Cinderella incinerating toilet, check for damage as soon as you accept delivery - (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com

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Unpack Toilet & Record Serial Number

One reason for taking time to record the serial number and model number of your Cinderella toilet now is that once it has been installed it is nearly impossible to read this label without first uninstalling or pulling the toilet away from the wall.

Record the model and serial number of your Cinderella toilet from the label on the toilete upper back side (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com

This information is on a sticker on the upper back of the toilet.

Below: contents of the Chimney Installation Package that we ordered along with the toilet itself.

We recommend these parts, though you may not use all of them. For example if your chimney is going to go directly outside and up the outside of the building you won't use the chimney flashing boot.

Cinderella toilet installation kit contents - cited & discussed at InspectApedia.com

The four straight lengths of pipe will be more than enough to provide the required minimum chimney height required for the Cinderella toilet.

Watch out: if you plan to install your chimney with a bend around a roof overhang or soffit, you'll need to request two 45 degree angle bends of the same chimney material - shown below.

45 degree 4-inch pipe elbow used to install the Cinderella vent chimney (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com

Watch out: don't forget to follow the instructions to remove the plastic tie strap that secures the ash pan in place.

Warning to remove the plastic tie securing the incinerating toilet pan in place (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com

Simply open the cover at the front of the toilet base by pressing the buttons (under my finger).

One of two latch buttons depressed to open the base of teh Cinderella incinerating toilet (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com

Below: removing the plastic tie.

Removing the burn pan tie strap before using the Cinderella toilet (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com ...

We used a utility knife to cut the strapping

Removing the burn pan tie strap before using the Cinderella toilet (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com

but it was so tight that the easiest way to remove it was by tugging with a pair of pliers.

Rear view of the Cinderella incinerating toilet showing its power cord, exhaust port and air inlet port (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com

The power cord for the Cinderella toilet will be strapped to the back of the unit and will simply plug into a wall receptacle.

This is a 240VAC unit that connects to a 240VAC electrical receptacle shown below to the left of the framed-in wall opening through which we'll vent this toilet.

The wall plug is a 15-Amp 250VAC NEMA -15P wall plug. The plug can not be connected to a conventional 120VAC wall receptacle. We'll show the proper wall electrical receptacle later in this article.

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Collect Necessary Tools & Supplies for Toilet Installation

Below and throughout this article are shown all of the tools you'll need to measure the location of and then cut the round holes needed for air supply and venting for this toilet and to perform other tasks given in the installation instructions. You'll see that we've included the framing square, a try square, a box knife.

Some of the tools needed for a top quality installation job of a Cinderella incinerating toilet (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com

To install this toilet you'll need

  • A power drill and a 4 3/8" hole saw for vent outlet and air inlet pipes, and if a wall vent is required, a 6 5/8" hole saw as well (not used in this installation).
  • A hand or power saw; we used a reciprocating saw to make fast straight cuts through our pipes
  • A tape measure and marking pen
  • A rasp file to smooth and chamfer pipe edges

4 3/8 inch diameter hole saw needed for incinerating toilet installation  - (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com

We found helpful to have on hand and also used

  • A framing square and/or set square and a small C-clamp that we use to clip these together - useful if you need to extend a measurement from the floor to the inner surface of exterior wall sheathing
  • Sealant to seal around the wall penetrations outside
  • Spray paint if you plan to paint the chimney and vent outside
  • Additional chimney brace material: steel plumbing strapping that we will describe below
  • Installation kit:

    While an experienced installer might purchase wall vent and chimney piping materials elsewhere, for private individuals who are skilled enough to cut holes in a wall, measure and mark cut lines, and assemble a chimney and outdoor chimney support brackets, you'll be fine if you simply add the company's chimney vent installation kit that includes lengths of 4" pipe and chimney support brackets and clamps.

Please continue reading the next article in this series on installing a Cinderella incinerating toilet - the link is just below.

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