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Add-on incinerating toilet vent strapping at roof edge secures against sideways movement - (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.comCinderella Incinerating Toilet Installation Details -
FINAL STEPS

Photo Guide to Details of Steps to Install the Cinderella Toilet

Here we provide photos and notes giving details of a successful installation of the Cinderella Incinerating Toilet.

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This article series describes the brands, properties, installation, and maintenance of incinerating toilets - a waterless system for onsite waste disposal where a septic system cannot be installed. Incinerating toilets use electricity or gas to produce heat which literally incinerates the waste.

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Cinderella Incinerating Toilet Installation Details

Cinderella incinerating toilet installation manual: Model: Cinderella Comfort, electric - cited & discussed at InspectApedia.com

Above: the cover of the instruction manual for the Cinderella Comfort incinerating toilet.

The manufacturer provides excellent instruction manuals for the installation of each Cinderella incinerating toilet model. Be sure to obtain and read and follow those instructions. Failure to do so could mean that your installation doesn't work properly or worse, that the installation is unsafe. Always start by reading the instructions.

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In this article series we provide detailed photos and notes that expand on the manufacturer's instructions to show how we implemented them in a specific case.

Watch out: We include a few tricks of the trade that solve special problems.

Using just the chimney brackets provided by Cinderella, and without our added support strapping at the roof edge (detailed below and trivially easy), the chimney was as wobbly as all get-out!

We include details on adding additional chimney/vent bracing at the roof edge to solve that fiasco.

We also show how to bend an offset chimney support bracket rod to get around the problem of a window or other obstruction in the vertical path of the chimney.

These added "how to" details explain and illustrate exact details of every step in the installation of an incinerating toilet.

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Please visit the above link to this topic's home page for a complete list of all the steps included in the installation of a Cinderella incinerating toilet.

For ease of page loading and reading we have divided the entire incinerating toilet installation procedure into a series of web pages listed there.

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Install Upper Chimney Support Brackets

Below: the threaded rod chimney vent support brackets provided in the Cinderella installation kit provide a maximum support distance between the center of the vent and the bracket base mounting point of 18 inches.

Maximum length of Cinderella chimney brace is 18 inches  - (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com

Below we're cutting the threaded rod to the proper length for our installation. Remember to leave sufficient rod length to thread into both the chimney clamp and the wall mount support hardware.

Cutting threaded rod of chimney brace to proper length for incinerating toilet vent  - (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com

Below: this Cinderella vent bracket rod has been cut to mount between the roof edge fascia board and the chimney clamp.

This was our shortest bracket but even this one allowed considerable side wobble in the chimney, perhaps worse in an installation where the vent angles through two 45 degree elbows to jog around the roof overhang.

Threaded rod and clamp chimney brace affixed to roof edge fascia board  - (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com

Watch out: in our OPINION these chimney braces using a threaded rod are strong and secure the chimney from movement towards or away from the building, but the chimney was very wobbly from left to right.

We found that even a slight push was enough to set the chimney askew, particularly along its angled elbows.

We didn't think the vent system was going to collapse but to us it looked fragile and when askew, like a sloppy installation that might, over time, compromise the seal of the hub gaskets.

For that reason and to avoid damage that might be caused by windy conditions or prowling bears, we added what is conceptually a stronger angular brace between the chimney and the fascia board.

Below are the tools and supplies you'll need to add a chimney brace against lateral movement.

Tools for incinerating toilet vent installation include steel plumbing strapping for add-on chimney bracing  - (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com

Important Tip: One of these braces, using steel plumbing strapping, was sufficient to stop any side to side chimney movement.

Bend over end of steel strapping when making add-on incinerating chimney support brace  - (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com

It's easy to integrate the steel plumbing strap support with the OEM chimney bracket, as we show here. Simply dis-assemble the bracket and re-route its tightening screw through the hole in the steel strapping.

I bent over the end of the strapping for neatness and to give good strength against breakage, but kept the length of strapping steel beyond the hole short so that the end fits nicely within the chimney bracket itself.

Factory clamp for incinerating toilet chimney vent with added-on plumbing strapping for angle braces  - (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com

Below our strapping has been connected to the Cinderella chimney bracket but left loose.

It's critical that you install and adjust the OEM threaded rod chimney brace to the fascia first, setting the chimney plumb before continuing with the add-on steel strapping that will prevent lateral movement of the chimney.

Angle bracing can prevent un-wanted incinerating toilet vent movement - hung loose until the chimney is in proper position  - (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com

Below: before securing our lateral-movement preventing bracket we make sure that we've got the chimney plumb in both directions.

Checking plumb position of chimney before securing final bracing  - (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com

Then we first tack in place the steel strapping to the fascia board and when we're confident the chimney is still vertical and the strapping snug, we can bolt it in place.

Add-on incinerating toilet vent strapping at roof edge secures against sideways movement - (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com

Below, and before final painting, the Cinderella incinerating toilet exhaust chimney and cap and supporting brackets have been installed and the combustion air inlet cover has also been fitted to the building wall.

Note that the chimney installation is completed by a factory-kit-provided top cap or "ventilator cowl" that helps to prevent downdrafts and so assists in effective ventilation.

Plastic vent installation for an incinerating toilet, complete, ready for painting  - (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com

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Bending an Off-Set into a Chimney Support Bracket Rod

Below: the two lower threaded rod chimney support brackets were installed as shown. The upper of the two had to be positioned a bit to the left of the chimney's center line where we could bolt it to vertical trim on the building, so we had to bend the rod to accommodate this offset.

The lower chimney support bracket is mounted to horizontal trim and is in direct line with the centerline of the chimney.

Bent offset in chimney support bracket to accomodate an off-set surface mount location  - (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com

Measure the amount of offset needed and simply make a pair of 45 degree angled Zee bends in the threaded rod to achieve that necessary distance - see the bends in the rod above the yellow arrow in our photo.

 

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Paint the Cinderella Exhaust Vent & Air Inlet to Match Building Siding

High temperature paint that will bond well to clean plastic surfaces   - (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com

While the manufacturer assures us that the chimney of a Cinderella toilet never reaches high temperatures, we still chose a high temperature spray paint in a color to match the building exterior walls.

Cleaning the plastic vent piping before painting assures good paint adhesion.  - (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com

Before painting the plastic exhaust venting and inlet vent piping it's important to clean it thoroughly of any surface oil, grease, soap or debris. Otherwise your paint job will fail in short order.

We used alcohol wipes to clean the plastic and metal surfaces before painting.

Below: after painting the materials with a heat-resistant green paint to match the building.

Cinderella incinerating toilet vent system installed (C) InspectApedia.com

Below: the Cinderella toilet installation is complete, with finished wall surface in place, the toilet is plugged-in and ready for use.

Cinderlla Comdfort incinerating toilet cleaned and ready for use (C) InspectApedia.com

 



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