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Diagnose & Fix Water Softener Problems:

This article series describes procedures for diagnosing and repairing water softener or water conditioner problems including water conditioner control settings and adjustment or repair, brine tank and brine tank float cleaning and repair, and the proper amount of water softening or conditioning that is needed.

This water softener repair article describes what to check first if the softener is not working properly. Also see the FAQs at the end of this article for examples of water softener problems & solutions.

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Owner's Guide to Diagnosing A Water Softener that Is Not Working Properly

Water conditioner bypass valve, built-in option  - Autotrol

Article Series Contents

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To get a water softener of unknown condition into operation

  1. Download the Installation and Operation Manual(s) for your water softener or one close to it in design and brand

    Try looking through some of the manuals to find the manual for your water conditioner found

    at WATER CONDITIONER / SOFTENER MANUALS - instructions for most water softener brands and models, free PDF downloads

    will give you help with those.

    Follow those instructions, of which we give a general outline below.
  2. Clean and sanitize the softener resin tank and brine tank -

    see WATER SOFTENER CLEANING & SANITIZING
  3. Test your home's water for hardness so that you can determine the probable softener settings - note that water hardness may vary by season - test water using a sample obtained ahead of the water softener itself.

    see WATER HARDNESS: HOW TO MEASURE
  4. Add salt to the softener's brine tank
  5. Adjust the Softener's Settings

    The functions will include

    - setting the timer clock

    - set the salt dose

    - set the time of day for regeneration ("backwash") etc

    - set the regen frequency - depends on volume of water use

    WATER SOFTENER ADJUSTMENT & CONTROLS

  6. Run a manual regeneration cycle
  7. Set the softener for automatic operation
  8. Test the hardness of water produced by the water softener to confirm that it's working

Water Softener Checklist: if the Softener is Not Working Check These First

Water Softener Not Producing Soft Water

if the water softener doesn't seem to be doing anything, check these items:

How to Get a Water Softener Working & Confirm that It Works Correctly

Before replacing a water softener - a step that may not be necessary, here are some things to try:

  1. Make sure that the water softener is actually "on" and working, that is, that the system has electric power, valves turned on, not left on "bypass"
  2. Make sure the water softener is clean and that no debris is blocking any water passages or tubing.

    SeeSOFTENER CLEANING & SANITIZING

    Also see DIRT & DEBRIS in BRINE TANK
  3. Make sure that the salt tank is properly filled.

    If the salt tank has stayed "full" for a long time, either no salt is being used (improper operation) or a crust of salt has formed over a virtually empty tank.

    Poke around into the salt to be sure the salt tank is really there.

    See BRINE TANK BRIDGING or CRUSTING
  4. Run an extra water softener regen cycle - use the water softener control to run the equipment through an extra cleaning/regeneration cycle.
  5. Watch the water softener control or check it frequently for several days to be sure the control is actually working and that it is cleaning and regenerating the water softener salt dose regularly.

    See WATER SOFTENER BACKUP, FLOODING, LEAKS.
  6. Test the incoming water for hardness so that you know what level of treatment is required.

    See DETECT HARD WATER and MEASURE WATER HARDNESS
  7. Test the water softener output water for hardness and if you like, also test the output water salt level for excess salt
  8. Check the water softener control adjustments. If the equipment appears to be working, but water is still too hard (or has too much mineral content) you can increase the salt dose or the backwash/regeneration cycle frequency.

    SeeSOFTENER ADJUSTMENT & CONTROLS

    and
    RECOMMENDED SETTINGS for WATER SOFTENERS
  9. If the water softener is leaving too much salt in the water, reduce the salt dose on your softener's controls.

    If your water supply is too salty right after a water softener regen cycle I suspect that the complete cycle did not finish properly.

    Start a new softener regeneration cycle and use your softener's controls to skip steps in the cycle up to the "final rinse" step. this should remove excess brine from the resin tank.

    You may see this as a thin salty film left at faucets or in a dishwasher. Mineral scale may also be a thin hard white deposit but is a separate problem not a too-much-salt problem.

    See HEALTH RISKS & WATER SOFTENERS

    and SALT OR WATER INTO SEPTIC
  10. Call for professional help with the water softener. If the equipment is not visibly broken, damaged, leaking, and/or you don't want to mess with it yourself, most water softener companies will be glad to send a service technician to your home to inspect, clean, adjust, and test the equipment.

Try these water softener diagnosis and repair steps before rushing to replace the water softener itself.

Master Table of Water Softener Problems, Causes, Repair Procedures

Water Softener Problem

Water Softener Problem Cause

Water Softener Problem Repair

Air discharge at plumbing fixtures after softener regen cycle

Clogged, stuck, leaky air check valve

Check and clean the check valve (if one is used) on the brine tube in the brine tank

See WATER SOFTENER CHECK VALVE STUCK

in this article: AIR DISCHARGE at FAUCETS, FIXTURES

Water Softener Won't Regenerate
or
Water softener regeneration cycle inadequate
No electrical power Check that the softener is plugged-in, that its electrical circuit is powered-on, that a switch, pull chain, breaker or fuse are all "on" and working.
Defective timer If the timer does not operate the softener won't cycle; replace the timer.
Power failure caused timer or clock to be improperly set Re-set the day of week and time of day on the water softener timer after an electrical power failure or after the softener has been powered "off" for a time.
Water Softener regeneration cycle delayed, stuck, or continuously "on" Softener is not drawing brine from the brine tank

Comnmon causes: clogged or stuck rine tank float valve assembly, clogged drain line flow control, clogged injector or injector screen, low water pressure, internal leak in the control.
See

WATER SOFTENER REGEN CYCLE DURATION

Softener control keeps cycling continuously Often a broken or short circuited switch or control. See the article listed just above.,
Water softener drain won't stop flowing Common causes: improper programming of the control head, timer, or failed control head; clogged or debris in the control head; leak inside the control head.

Hard water

Water softener is not making the water soft or not making enough soft water

Softener is in "Bypass" mode

Check the position of the softener bypass switch and close it if the switch is in "open" or "bypass" mode.
See

BYPASS VALVE on WATER SOFTENERS

No salt in the brine tank

Check the brine tank salt level and add salt if needed.

Check for a "salt bridge" or crust that has formed, preventing salt in the upper brine tank from falling down into the tank bottom where it can mix with water.
See

WATER SOFTENER CLEANING & SANITIZING

Break up the crust, then add salt if needed. The salt level should be above the water level in the brine tank.

Normally the water level reaches 6-8" in the brine tank during a regeneration cycle. For diagnosing brine tank problems
See

BRINE TANK WATER TOO HIGH

Plugged injector screen

Clean the injector or its filter-screen.
See

BRINE TANK WATER TOO HIGH

Insufficient water flow into the brine tank

Insufficient water into the brine tank opr insufficient salt dose or related brine tank problems can cause the water softener regen cycle to be too short or can cause the softener to fail to produce enough soft water.
See

BRINE TANK WATER TOO LOW

Scale in the hot water tank, hot water cylinder or geyser

De-scale and flush the water heater.
See

WATER HEATER SCALE DE-LIMING PROCEDURE

Distributor tube leak Check for a cracked or leaky distributor tube; check for a bad O-ring or Tube Pilot.
Internal valve leak Replace the control head valve seals, O-rings, spacers and/or piston.
Control Head program wheel not rotating (mechanical water softner controls) with timer motor

Pull cable out of the control head cover and rotate the trip-wheel manually.

Program wheel must move without binding and clutch must give positive “clicks” when program wheel strikes regeneration stop.

If it does not, replacethe timer assembly or control head.

Control head not measuring water flow or hardness (these features are not present on all water conditioners)

For a mechanical water conditioner control head, check output by observing rotation of small gear on front of timer (Note - program wheel must not be against regeneration stop for this check).

Each tooth to tooth is approximately 30 gallons (model dependent). If not performing properly, replace the control head.

   
Water usage + hardness exceeds water softener capacity

Measure water hardness and daily or weekly water usage quantity; compare these with the water softener capacity specifications;

try increasing the salt dose, regen cycle frequency and regen cycle duration.

Hard Water observed right after a water softener regen cycle Bypass valve not returned to closed - water not going through the water softener Close the bypass valve
Abnormal water levels in the brine tank: too high OR brine level in the salt tank is too low.

See

BRINE TANK WATER TOO HIGH

BRINE TANK WATER TOO LOW

Injector assembly damage Poor suction at the injector assembly due to leaks, damage, nozzle wear.
Leaky bypass valve O-rings

Slightly-hard water (test it) after a regen cycle may be caused by leaks at the bypass valve, leaking hard supply water through to the building.

Before attacking the o-rings, remember to check the salt dose and compare that to the original incoming water hardness to be sure your softener settings are correct.

Damaged O-ring in the distributor tube

Check for a water softener distributor tube (see your softener parts explosion) that is damaged or that is not securely connected to the control valve.

This tube can be loosened by water hammer or by a water heater pressure backing up hot water into a nearby water softener.

See also

WATER HAMMER NOISE DIAGNOSE & CURE

Hard Water observed before normal next-regen cycle is due

The water softener salt dose and regen cycle frequency have been properly set for the amount of water being used in the building and the incoming water hardness but still the water becomes hard before the next regen cycle.

Inadequate brine flow through the softener during regen cycle because of dirt at brine tank bottom

Clean the brine tank.

Check for and clean the air check valve (if present) on the brine tank tube.

Check for and clean the rotary valve, drain hose assembly, check valves.

WATER SOFTENER CLEANING & SANITIZING

Inadequate brine flow through the softener during regen cycle because of control valve malfunction - brine draw too fast or brine tank float or air check valve shuts off before all brine has been drawn out of the brine tank.

Clean the brine tank.

WATER SOFTENER CLEANING & SANITIZING

BRINE TANK WATER TOO HIGH

BRINE REFILL FLOAT CONTROL VALVE found in the vertical tube in the brine tank

Insufficient water entering the brine tank because of a brine tank control valve problem. Fouled brine tank control valve flow / refill control (normal = 1/4 to 1/2 gallons a minute)

Clean the brine tank control valve

BRINE REFILL FLOAT CONTROL VALVE device is found in the vertical tube in your brine tank

Excessive / abnormal levels of water usage in the building due to visitors, running toilets, other water supply system leaks.

Use an extra softener regen cycle to account for visitors.

Find and fix water supply system leaks such as running toilets.

TOILET RUNS CONTINUOUSLY

TOILET SLOW FLUSH FAQs

TOILET TANK SWEATS

Water softener settings incorrect: you may have under-estimated the actual water usage level for your building

Review actual daily water use; if a water meter is installed, check water meter readings against estimated water use. Adjust the water softener settings as needed.

WATER SOFTENER ADJUSTMENT & CONTROLS

Water hardness has changed, water softener settings incorrect for new hardness level.

Seasonal changes in the water table supplying a private well (usually lower in dry seasons), changes in the water table because of other wells drilled nearby, or changes in treatment of water by a municipal water supplier can result in increased actual water hardness level.

Re-test the incoming water supply for hardness, compare with water softener settigns, and adjust the water softener settings as needed.

WATER SOFTENER ADJUSTMENT & CONTROLS

WATER SOFTENER SALT DOSE SETTING

Brine tank salt bridge causing insufficient salt dissolution in the regen cycle

Bridging, the formation of a crust of salt in the brine tank, can prevent the salt from settling to the tank bottom where it is to be dissolved by incoming brine tank water during a softener regen cycle.

BRINE TANK BRIDGING or CRUSTING

WATER SOFTENER SALT DOSE SETTING

Reverse Osmosis (RO) water treatment system installed

RO water treatment systems increase the volume of water used in a building (to back-wash the RO system periodically) but the low-flow-rate of an RO backwash system is not detected by some water softeners whose controls and regen cycle are based on measuring the actual water usage.

Adust the water softener settings to a more-frequent regen cycle frequency.

WATER SOFTENER ADJUSTMENT & CONTROLS

Excessive salt usage

or

Water tastes too salty
Improper salt dose setting

Check the salt dose setting on the softener control head;

Check the regeneration cycle frequency setting at the softener control.

Improper water level in the brine tank

Check for a stuck brine tank float, a clogged drain line, a clogged drain line flow control, a plugged injector system, for a timer not cycling, or for a clogged brine tank float valve.

For details see BRINE TANK WATER TOO HIGH

Incomplete brine rinse

Run an extra water softener regeneration cycle, and

Try skipping directly to the "final rinse" cycle that removes excess salt from the resin tank.

Loss of water pressure downstream from the water softener Iron, scale, sediment build-up in the water conditioner supply piping

Clean the clogged piping or valve or piping elbow; install appropriate water filters or treatment if needed.

See these articles and use your browser "BACK" button to return here.

CLOGGED TANKLESS COIL or PIPES, LIME SCALE

GALVANIZED STEEL WATER PIPING

WATER SOFTENER PLUMBING PROBLEMS

TREATMENT SYSTEMS for HOUSEHOLD WATER [PDF]

WATER FILTERS - SEDIMENT & IRON

WATER STAINING CONTAMINANTS

WATER PRESSURE LOSS DIAGNOSIS & REPAIR - home

Iron build-up inside the water conditioner

Clean the water softener control head; add mineral cleaner to the water softener mineral bed, and increase the frequency of water softener regeneration.
See

WATER SOFTENER CLEANING & SANITIZING

Water softener resin loss

Water softener resin leaving the device can show up at faucet strainers & shower heads, clogging those fixtures and reducing the water flow rate or water "pressure".

Remove the faucet strainer / shower head. Clean the debris. Flush the piping system.

With the water softener in bypass mode, if the debris shows up again the problem is originating elsewhere in the system: water supply piping or the water source.

Clogged water softener control inlet due to debris in water supply or debris caused by recent plumbing work

Clean the water softener control head, piston, valves

Other sources of debris in the water system or reduced water pressure: see

CLOGGED SUPPLY PIPES, DIAGNOSIS

WATER HEATER DEBRIS FLUSH

Minerals or resin discharge from the water softener into water supply Air in the water system

Check and repair an air volume control, air eliminator, loss of water in the well, leak in well piping and similar causes discussed at

AIR DISCHARGE at FAUCETS, FIXTURES

Check for deteriorated water softener resin: if the system is years old, if you see fine silt or sand-like or resin particles in faucet strainers and shower heads, the water softener resin may need replacement.

See WATER SOFTENER RESIN REPLACE

Stains, odors, debris traced to water softener Bacteria, sulphur, sediment, iron, debris can produce stains in water softener output.

See

WATER SOFTENER OUTPUT COLORS DEBRIS STAINS ODORS

WATER ODOR DIAGNOSIS - SULPHUR

WATER SOFTENER CLEANING & SANITIZING

WATER ODOR TREATMENTS, CURES - SULPHUR

Iron in the conditioned water output from the water softner, caused by a fouled mineral or resin bed

Check the water softener back-wash (regen cycle) operation and brine tank operation.

Increase the water softener regeneration cycle frequency, lowering the salt dose if necessary.

Increase the water water softener regeneration cycle duration time.

See the diagnostic articles listed in the column entry just above.

High water level in the brine tank Various causes explained in the article at right

BRINE TANK WATER TOO HIGH

Low water level in the brine tank Various causes explained in the article at right

BRINE TANK WATER TOO LOW

Brine Tank drain water flow abnormally high Various causes explained in the article at right

BRINE TANK WATER TOO HIGH

Brine Tank drain water flow weak Various causes explained in the article at right BRINE TANK WATER TOO HIGH
Leaks at the water softener Various causes explained in the article at right

WATER SOFTENER BACKUP, FLOODING, LEAKS

Notes to the table above

Question: Injector Drain Flow pipe is discharging rusty colored water and resin beads

Fifi & Boomer • 3 months ago

I noticed that my Injector Drain Flow pipe is discharging rusty colored water and resin beads. Is this a problem, and what might it be?

Reply:

Fi

Particularly IF there is no other source of rusty color or particles (such as iron pipes or iron in the water supply) THEN the color and resin beads in the discharge mean that the basket strainer in the water softener is damaged and your resin tank is losing beads - it needs repair.

Check the diagnostic suggestions in your water softener's installation & service manual.

See WATER CONDITIONER / SOFTENER MANUALS

 

White Scale Deposits on Plumbing Fixtures: hard water indicators

White scale on faucets - hard water (C) Daniel FriedmanQuestion: White Deposits on Faucets: why does my water keep leaving water marks on my plumbing fixtures? Should I replace my water softener?

I currently have a water softener system in my home BUT, there are always water marks on my chrome fixtures and on my windows,mirrors,etc.

What can I do to improve this system or should I just replace it with a different one?

I realize that soft water does not mean non-staining water but I was hoping for better results.

Can you help of advise? - C.T.

Reply: Diagnose, clean, adjust, and test your water softener before buying a new one

We speculate that there are several likely explanations for what you describe:

The water softener is not working adequately or not properly adjusted, does not remove enough minerals, and minerals continue to be deposited on your fixtures

The water softener is not adjusted properly and excess salt is being sent through your system, depositing salt on the fixtures.

The water softener unit is dirty, and needs cleaning and perhaps also adjustment

The water softener simply has stopped working - broken, perhaps leaking, clogged, or with a control that no longer functions.

The water softener regeneration system is not working: no salt in the salt tank, or improper regeneration cycle or salt dose setting, or the regeneration control timer may be stuck.

See WATER SOFTENER BACKUP, FLOODING, LEAKS for an example of what can happen.

Watch out: too often a water softener failure or operating problem that could have been corrected by a simple adjustment, cleaning, or repair, is in stead "repaired" by installing new equipment.

Since a new water softener just installed is more likely to be clean and properly adjusted, the old problem may indeed go away, and you may think that replacement was needed, but if simple cleaning and adjustment of the old water softener would have been sufficient, you have faced an unnecessary expense.

Reader Question: corroded drains & faucets - does this mean a water softener problem?

Our drains and faucets are starting to corrode and rust. we have always used a water softener and maintained it. Is this an indication that there is a problem with our softener? - Sharon Osterby 9/16/12

Reply:

Sharon I'm not sure the problem is with your water softener or with the chemistry of your water. If the softener is not working you might see white mineral build-up at faucet strainers and openings; If the water chemistry is aggressive that might be a factor in plumbing corrosion.

Start by testing your softened water to see if it is effectively treated, and if not, clean, adjust, repair the water softener first.

If you suspect a problem with water chemistry (say the softener is working normally and the water at the tap is not hard) then I suggest asking a water treatment company to test your water.

Such vendors often will test your water at no charge (they want to sell you equipment) or if you're doubtful, pick up a sterile bottle from your local water test lab and ask their recommendations for what screening tests to perform.

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Reader Comments, Questions & Answers About The Article Above

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Question: I got a mouthful of briny water when brushing my teeth

I got a mouthful of briny water brushing my teeth this am. Downstairs kitchen sink water is okay.

What changed? 2 days ago my partner turned Kinetico valve in basement to "service".

We just turned it to bypass, which corrects. Can we leave on bypass until we see you, or should we turn system off?

Thanks for any comments ... . I have pics of valve settings. - E.M. by private email 2021/05/02

Moderator reply: fixing too-salty water softener output

Temporarily you can leave your water softener on bypass, or you can try running an extra regeneration cycle.

See details at

That text is going to say that you want to check your salts dose setting to make sure that that's correct on the water softener and then you check the softener regeneration frequency, the other water softener setting, and you compare those with what you know about how hard your water actually is.

We're trying to make sure that you have the correct settings.

You can skip all of that if running an extra regen cycle alone corrects the problem.

When my water softener output tasted salty I started the regeneration process and then skipped ahead to the final rinse.

It was a final rinse that made sure that excess salt in the softener itself had been removed.

How exactly you skip to the final rinse depends on how the controls work on your particular water softener.

Sometimes it's electronic and you push a button to skip to that step in the cycle or on the older softeners it's electromechanical and you turn the dial of a clock.

Check the manual for your water softener.

but

Watch out: leaving the water softener in bypass mode for months risks expensive mineral scale clogging of your hot water pipes and water heater.

Also see

 

On 2020-11-30 - by (mod) -

Cindy:

check for a blocked or crimped tubing between softener control head and the brine tank;

Check for a stuck brine tank float

And if those are intact check that the softener isn't in bypass mode

If it's not the problem may be a defective or damaged control head on the softener.

On 2020-11-30 by Cindy

My softner turns on to regenerate, but it just goes thru cycles and quits. No flowing water at all

On 2020-11-21 by (mod) - air discharge at fixtures and debris in toilet tank

Sounds as if air may have been introduced into the plumbing system during recent work - that would explain air sputtering,

See details at AIR DISCHARGE at FAUCETS, FIXTURES

as well as perhaps sealants or pipe dope or other debris - forming scum in the toilet tank or cister - that ought to simply be flushed out at nearyby fixtures and at the toilet itself.

You can simply flush out the toilet cistern with a few extra toilet flushes, or you can speed the process by holding the flush lever down so that more of the cistern drains at each flush for the next few uses of the toilet.

On 2020-11-21 by Robert

New whirpool tank installed by plumber. White material floating on water in toilet tank, sputters when water engaged

On 2020-11-15 - by (mod) -

Big

Thanks for the helpful question about excess salt or white deposits left from water treatment by your water softener. Most often when I see this complaint the problem is either the salt dose is set to high or the water softener's backwash cycle during regeneration is not working correctly or perhaps not running long enough to flush the excess salt from the resin tank.

Besides checking the softener's adjustments vs the actual measured hardness of your water supply, you might want to try

WATER SOFTENER CLEANING & SANITIZING https://inspectapedia.com/plumbing/Water_Softener_Cleaning.php


On 2020-11-15 by BigRon121

Why does my water softener leave salt stains in my sink and dishes

On 2020-11-07 - by (mod) -

James

That does sound terrible;

There are several things to check - starting with

- a close look at exactly where the spray was emanating - from a leak or a poorly-mounted drain connection between the softener drain tubing and the standpipe to which it's emptying?

- a check of water pressure - has that changed?

- a defect in the control head: was this the very first backwash cycle ever? If so the installers let you down in my OPINION by not running a test cycle at time of installation;

In any event if it's not something trivial like a poor connection of softener drain tube to building drain I'd expect the masked-installers to return to fix the trouble.

Do let me know what you see or what the installers say.

It'd be helpful to know country and city of installation and brand and model of water softener.

On 2020-11-07 by James

We just had a brand new water softener and whole house filter system installed. It’s been working well all week. Today, when the backwash cycle started, water began spraying violently out of the drain line and all over the laundry room. What would cause so much pressure while it’s draining? Our old softener did not do that, and we also had a pressure reducing valve installed on the main line to make sure the pressure was appropriate for the system. Any advice is welcome as our plumber cannot come back out for a week.

On 2020-09-23 by (mod) - WaterBoss 900 and new 50 gal. gas hot water heater: dirty water

Wally

Before starting over I'd want to know about the incoming water; do a hardness test, get that data, and we can be sure that the softener has the capacity that's needed.

On 2020-09-23 by Wally

Just installed new WaterBoss 900 and new 50 gal. gas hot water heater. Took 4 days for well water to begin to clear. Still is not soft. Have reset the softener, increased the level to 90 (max. for the softener), re-cycled numerous times, run hot water to try to clear the assumed unsoftened water that went into the hot water heater at installation. Next step is to drain the system and start again. Suggestions?

On 2020-07-28 by ldaskalyuk@yahoo.com

I My water is not running in the house and it seems like the problems is at the softener. I have water outside but not in the house.

On 2020-06-14 1 - by (mod) -

Nabeel

A Fleck 5600 SXT "On Demand" water softener costs about $550. U.S. (shown below); you'll need to buy salt for the softener, available at typical U.S. retailer for under $5.00 per 40 pound bag.

Just how much salt you need - how often you need to add salt to the softener - depends on the hardness of your water and the volume of water you use. Figure you'll need 3-4 bags for the initial softener fill-up.

You'll also need to hire a plumber to install the softener. That cost depends on where you live - varying widely from about $40. to over $200 per hour (again U.S. dollars), but typically will be 2 hours or more of installation.

Fleck SXT 5600 water softener control head (C) INspectApedia.com ... Fleck SXT 5600 water softener control head (C) INspectApedia.com

On 2020-06-14 - by (mod) -

Nabeel Rana said:
Great, But i would happy to know your suggestion. Please

Looks written with proper research. I read all of it. I got your main point but I would like to know more about these types.

I have a budget of 500 and my source of water is underground, my family and I have health issues, my physician recommends to use a good water softener? What would you suggest? Salt softeners are fine? But what about cost and maintenance?

I am not noob i read few blogs .... The article was informative but you content explains proper in detailed. Awesome I must say.

On 2020-05-14 - by (mod) -

Post a photo of the control and I can comment further.

On 2020-04-20 by Peggy King

I can't advance the sale level

On 2020-04-09 - by (mod) -

Martyn

Regarding your " Crown double tan block salt softener" - that is not providing soft water, please find your question and what is now a detailed answer offering several suggestions,

specifically under

- H - for Harvey Water Softeners & Manuals - UK at https://inspectapedia.com/plumbing/Water_Softener_Manuals.php#H

or found in

WATER SOFTENER MANUALS https://inspectapedia.com/plumbing/Water_Softener_Manuals.php

and don't hesitate to post follow-up questions or comments

On 2020-04-09 - by (mod) -

Jim

Responding to: Kinetico softener brine tank was 3/4 full of salt. We were gone for one week, so no water was being used. When we returned, no salt in brine tank and softener started to regenerate without anyone using any water. What could be the problem?

...

That sounds to me like a control head failure leaving the water softener stuck in "regen" mode or repeatedly cycling through regen.

The risk is more than wasting salt; if you are connected to a private septic system the risk is inadvertent flooding of the septic drainfield.

Give me the model of your Kinetco softener so we can see what the manufacturer suggests short of starting wholesale parts replacement or "shotgunning" the repair by spraying your money all over the place.

I might try a power-off reset followed by a manual regen cycle - before adding any salt - combined with watching the system to see what it does.

On 2020-04-09 by Jim

Kinetico softener brine tank was 3/4 full of salt. We were gone for one week, so no water was being used. When we returned, no salt in brine tank and softener started to regenerate without anyone using any water. What could be the problem?

On 2020-04-09 by Martyn Kebbell

I have a Crown double tan block salt softener . ID N,. NEWS/1. Serial number 21776. service meter 750. We recently renovated the kitchen and to do so had to disconnect it and then when finished the renovation reconnect it . All buy a professional plumber. Since then we have been unable to get soft water . The plumbing work looks good and the by-pass is closed. The virus has meant the plumber cannot come back immediately. What might the fault be and how can I fix it?
Thanks
Martyn

Reader Question: Water Softener Not Softening the Water: water test shows 1120 ppm of hardness and other data - how should I remove the hardness?

In my home the water test report showing the following details :

PARTICULARS OUR WATER RECOMMEND LEVEL
PH 7.7 7.5 - 8.5
TDS 1266 PPM
HARDENSS 1120 PPM
ALKANITY 450 PPM
CHLORIDES 764 PPM

Note: Not advisable for cooking & Bathing purpose use for floor cleaning & flushing.

Can I know what is the best way to remove the hardness of water. - Shobia 6/20/12

Reply: water softener capacity must be able to handle level of water hardness

Shobia it does sound as if you'd need water treatment to make that water usable in the home;

if you call two local water treatment companies they will be glad to propose systems to meet your needs, and typically don't charge for that advice. Using hardness as an example, it's quite simple to check the level of hardness you need to deal with against the capacity of the water softener system proposed.

I can't say more as I don't understand your data - hardness is usually expressed in milligrams per liter or grains per gallon, not parts per million.

Reader Comment from Cullman 8/26/12:

You need larger size water softener to remove this high hardness. Also TDS (total dissolved solids) level is very high , so for drinking water I suggest using Reverse osmosis system at the kitchen sink. Ph level is good.

Reply:

Thanks Cullman for the helpful suggestions to Shobia - Ed.

Reader Question: Water softener keeps regenerating & water remains hard

About once a year my softener will have salt in the tank and will run regenerating. But nothing happens and the water remains hard running throughout he house.

Maybe something is clogged? What should I look to do. Thanks so much. - Rob P. 7/24/12

Reply:

Rob, check for a stuck float switch in the brine tank;

See WATER SOFTENER RUNS TOO LONG

and see BRINE TANK FLOAT LEVEL ADJUSTMENT in our water softener diagnosis & maintenance articles.

Reader Question: Can I replace the resin media inside of a water softener?

8/31/14 Ron Fix It Man said:

My softener is 13 years old and I have read the resin becomes ineffective in about that life time. Iron out has been used with little benefit. Effectiveness of the softener has declined unless greater amounts of salt per cycle are used. Troubleshooting reveals no improper cycle operation.

Is it true the resin has a limited life? Can it be restored, say with a wash of dilute muratic acid? If not, where can it be purchased?

Reply: procedure to replace water softener treatment tank resin media

Ron

Indeed it is possible to replace the resin in a water softener.

Water softener resin can last for 20 years or even longer, but may have a shorter life depending on the chemistry of the water being processed in the water softener.

But I would not start down the "replace water softener resin" path before diagnosing the problem with my water softener to be sure I'm making the proper and necessary repair.

If you've done that and are ready to replace the resin in the softner tank, details of just how to replace the resin in the water softner, where to buy resin, and other advice are

at WATER SOFTENER RESIN REPLACEMENT


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