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Piping connection requirements, restrictions, codes

This article describes the requirements for copper or other metal piping to protect PEX piping from heat damage at a water heater.

We also discuss the use of PEX tubing for heating equipment discharge tube piping

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Proper vs Wrong PEX Plumbing Connections to a Water Heater

Unsafe Rheem electric water heater (C) InspectApedia.com Hogue TPEX Clearance Distances at Water Heaters

- source: (Zurn 2010) cited below

Reader question:

Something I didn't mention, but which shows on the picture of the water heater which I sent earlier and illustrated at WATER HEATER SAFETY, are the two hot and cold PEX lines leading directly to the top of the tank.

If the T&P valve is still functional, I understand it won't open before it gets hotter or up to a higher pressure than is good for PEX .

So with this configuration is a failure at the top of the tank before the water can vent through its proper channel (the T&P valve) unheard of? - Anonymous by private email 2021/07/01

Moderator reply:

PEX water piping should not be connected directly to a gas or oil fired or tankless water heater; in two photos we can see red or blue PEX piping to the top of the water heater.

But your water heater is electric. According to Zurn (cited below) this is a permitted connection if the installation uses Zurn PEX and Zurn PEX fittings.

Really? Other codes and PEX guidelines do not explicitly permit this connection and are more general, requiring at least 18" of copper isolating PEX from the water heater - see our citation below.

For gas or oil fired heaters there are additional clearance distances required between PEX plumbing and the flue vent connector because that too is an area where high temperatures might be found.

There are other similar code citations discussing how PEX can be connected to all types of water heaters: tank type, instantaneous, and tankless coils, but this one from the Uniform Plumbing Code can suffice:

604.11.2 Water Heater Connections. PEX shall not be installed within the first 18 inches (457 mm) of piping connected to a water heater.

cited in

You will find this same detail cited in other PEX plumbing manuals and codes and you'll find it mentioned in quite a few water heater installation manuals.

Watch out: This is but one more of multiple safety questions about this particular heater that suggest that its installation appears not to have been inspected / approved by a building official, or if it was, that official didn't do her job properly.

The risk is a plumbing leak; in the worst case, a burst hot water pipe could scald someone nearby.

But the risk of burst piping is partially mitigated, as you can read in the following excerpt from the same HUD document.

In the event of a water heating system malfunction, PEX piping is designed to accommodate short-term conditions of 48 hours at 210ºF (99ºC) and 150 psi (1034 kPa) until repairs can be made. The most commonly used safety relief valve (T&P) activates (opens) at either of these temperature or pressure conditions.

All PEX piping has been tested to withstand T&P activation for 30 days to ensure that safety requirements are met.

As such, PEX systems DO NOT require the use of a special T&P valve.

 

On 2018-08-29 by (mod) - flexible connections to water heater connect also to PEX tubing

Flexible water heater piping errors (C) InspectApedia.com Wade VanastrosWade,

I suspect the flexible copper connectors shown in your photo are UL listed or otherwise listed for connecting the appliance or for connecting two of them. However your installation makes me nervous about an increased risk of a catastrophic plumbing leak.

I see

- flexible plastic water pipes connected to flexible copper connector at the water heater (which is proper) but without any visible support. Allowing pipes to wiggle about invites damage and leaks.

- no shut-off valve on the cold water in to the water heater


- what looks like a gas fired water heater flue vent connector that is touching or very close to combustible wood framing

- possibly the same vent connector passing through what looks like foil faced foam (combustible) insulation under the roof. Give me a photo of the labeling on the insulation and I can research clearance requirements further.

On 2018-08-29 by Wade Vanastros

Dual water heaters that are piped in a series with Brasscraft 3/4 FIP iron pipe x connected to PEX tubing.

Can i use the same material (3/4 Fip)to pipe the same water heaters in parallel? Or do I need to sorer [sic] actual copper pipe?

Thank you

Codes, Standards, Instructions for PEX Piping Connections at Water Heaters


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