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Air bleeder valves & automatic air purging valve types, choices & sources:

Where & how to buy and add air bleeders at baseboard elbows using a baseboard tee and air bleeder valves. We list the manufacturers and most models of manual & automatic air vents, bleeders, float vents, canister vents, and hot water piping or radiator or boiler air vents.

This article series provides a detailed guide to using air bleed valves to get rid of unwanted air in hot water heating systems: fix cold or noisy hot water heating radiators or baseboards.

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Air Bleed & Air Purge Valves for Hydronic Heating - Where to Buy Them

Air bleed valve installed on a baseboard tee (C) Daniel FriedmanQuestion: Where can I buy canister type air bleeder or air purge valves?

We are unable to find the air bleed valves that you have listed on your web page (canister type)

We are looking to buy 10 of them and am wondering if you have a contract from which to purchase these?

Appreciate any help you can provide.

W.M. - Wacol, Australia

Reply:

For a description of the different types of air bleeders or air eliminating valves

see AIR BLEEDER TYPES & LOCATIONS.

Where to Buy Air Bleeder Valves or Automatic Air Purging Valves & Air Eliminators

There are several manufacturers in the U.S. and Canada who provide both automatic and manual air vents for hydronic heating system, as we list below. Some of these manufacturers have world-wide operations as we indicate below. You may need to use a different term that is country dependent when searching for these products, such as air eliminator. .

Taco air scoop and float type automatic air purge valve (C) Daniel Friedman

Float type air bleeder vent installed properly (C) Daniel Friedman

What's the difference between an air bleeder valve and a radiator on-off valve?

Reader question: how do I differentiate between the valve to bleed the baseboard radiator of air, and the on/off valve?

I just bought my house and I notice that there are 3 baseboard radiators in one section of the house that are cold. I think that perhaps they are turned off, but I don't know how to tell. Looking at the radiators, they have pull chains coming out of the top louver, but there's no tension on the chain like there is when you use a pull chain to turn on and off a light, so maybe the pull chains are for opening and closing the louvers?

When I take off the lower cover, the part that covers the fins, I see a valve on the pipe where the water comes in (or out?) that has a slot for a flat-head screw. Would I use that to turn on or off the radiator, or is that the bleed valve? I think it must be the former because I don't see where air or water would escape.

My heat is provided by a gas boiler forcing hot water to baseboard radiators, and I have only one thermostat. And another pertinent detail: In the basement the pipes going to those 3 radiators feel hot, so water is circulating.

In trouble shooting, I want to try the easiest thing first: are the radiators on? Then I'll move on to the more complicated procedures if that's not the problem. But how do I tell if they are on?
Thanks! - Anastasia

Reply: How to tell an air bleed valve from a radiator control valve ?

Radiator manual air bleeder valve © D Friedman at InspectApedia.com

At left we show a manual hot water heating radiator air bleeder valve that has a round black handle. Because of the handle shape some folks may be confused about just whether this valve is an air bleeder control or a radiator on-off valve.

But it's easy to see the difference. The valve shown at left is attached directly to the hot water heating radiator at its top at one end. It is not connected to hot water piping, so it cannot be controlling the flow of hot water into the radiator.

Now for more details:

At below left we show a common radiator control valve found at the top of a hot water radiator. Other radiator control (on-off) valves may be located close to the floor at the bottom of both steam and hot water radiators.

At below right our sketch (courtesy Carson Dunlop Associates ) illustrates an air bleed found at the top of some older radiators - a model that has a tiny round handle. The advice in the sketch to leave air bleed valves alone is for home inspectors.

Radiator valve with air bleeder (C) Daniel Friedman

The worry is that opening an air bleed valve could lead to a leak if the valve is damaged or defective. But in fact manual air bleed valves on heating radiators are a control intended for use by a homeowner, need to be functional to get an airbound radiator back into operation, and need to be fixed if they're defective. The reason a home inspector might not operate the valve is that during a home inspection s/he doesn't want to risk starting a leak that can't be promptly shut off.

Radiator air bleed valve (C) Carson Dunlop Associates

Other air bleeder valves have a t-handle or a square fitting operated with a "skate key" wrench and still other air bleeders use a flat bladed screwdriver for their operation - illustrated in the article above on this page. In the sketch at above right you can see the radiator on-off control valve at the lower right. Notice that the radiator control valve will always be connected to both the radiator and a hot water (or steam) pipe, while an air bleeder valve will be connected directly to the radiator.

Well almost. Our photo at above left is tricky because that particular model of radiator control valve also happens to include a little bleeder fitting - that hexagonal brass nut shown at the center of the radiator control valve body.

 

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How to bleed air out of a heating system (C) Daniel FriedmanQuestion: where can I buy a replacement air bleeder valve knob for an air vent like the one shown at the top of this article?

I live in Canada (Winnipeg, Manitoba) the picture below is the type of radiator I have, however the problem I have is that the round black knob for the bleeding of the air vent is missing from all 3 of my rads, so therefore I cannot open the value to let the air out .

I have searched everywhere to be able to buy these knobs and cannot find anywhere to buy them .

I am hoping the you can direct me to where I may be able to purchase these knobs. I am desperate. Thank you and I look forward to your reply - M.B.C., Winnipeg

Reply:

MB, I would not waste time and certainly not money trying to duplicate the original knob if you don't find a similar one that will fit on the same valve stem.

One can usually open one of these old-style air vent valves without its control knob attached by any of the following means:

If the original valve stem is in good shape, your local plumbing or hardware supplier may be able to supply a generic replacement valve handle that will fit onto the existing stem. If not,

Use a small adjustable wrench if the valve stem remains roughly square;

Use a small Vise-Grip™ tool to pinch, hold, and turn the valve stem if it has lost its original shape.

Best solution: replace the old air vent with a new one, sized to screw right into the same opening as the old radiator vent valves. (The best time to do this is with the heat shut off and cooled down to avoid getting scalded by hot water and to minimize the water spillage.

An expert heating technician can assist by temporarily dropping heating system pressure so that the old valve can be removed and the new one installed with minimum water spillage.

See AIR BLEED VALVE LEAK REPAIR for air vent replacement procedure and details.

 


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