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How to restore lost water flow from a driven point well, small diameter jetted / wash well

Driven point well or jetted well yield restoration or improvement: how to restore the water flow from a driven point or small diameter jetted water well.

This article series explains installing, diagnosing, and repairing small diameter water wells including driven point wells, wash wells, and jetted wells, three types of water sources that may be used where water is close to the ground surface and a well pipe or point can be driven into the soil mechanically or by using hydrojetting.

We include an excellent UN FAO small diameter well document reference that will be helpful to those needing to construct a water well in areas where water is close to the ground surface and money or other resources are limited.

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Restoring the Yield of a Driven Point Well - how can I get my water back?

Photograph of sketch of the componentsof a well pit.

Diagnose the Cause of Driven Point Well Clogging Before Repair

Driven Point well restoration experts describe the importance of diagnosing the cause of the well clogging before trying to fix the problem.

That's where an experienced well driller or plumber can be helpful, as you will have better success un-clogging a well point when you match the solution to the nature of the problem.

For example, driven point well clogs may be due to bacteria or to silt and clay infiltration, to mineral deposits such as calcium where the order is hard or high mineral content, or from other debris clogging sources.

You may find that using a well disinfectant may be more-effective if the cause of well clogging is iron-loving bacteria.

The sketch shows two types of driven point well tips or screens - from a small well article provided by the United Nations, FAO, cited below. [Click to enlarge any image]

Common Causes of & Cures for Clogged Driven Point Well Screens

See SAND POINT DRIVEN POINT WELL CLEANERS below in this article for sources, products, and research on clearing your well point.

Sand point well installation in a pump house where freezing is a concern - adapted from Wisconsin DNR cited in this article (C) InspectApedia.com

Illustration of a driven point well from Wisconsin DNR cited in detail at the end of this article.

Reader Question: My Driven Well Point is Clogged - Do I Have to Drive a New Well?

The well digger tells me that I have a clogged point on my driven point well and it is not letting enough water in the well pipe to the pump. My water is good and the water pressure is awesome for about 2 minutes then it goes down to nothing. I wait about 30 seconds and it comes back.

Bad thing is the well digger hand drove this well for me about 4 years ago. Now he tells me the point is clogged not letting enough water in fast enough. He borrowed my 22 caliber rifle and shot about 7 rounds down into the well, but nothing happened.

I am being told by him that we need to drill another well right next to the old one. Needless to say I am not a happy camper. This well is on an extra lot I have that I use to grow a garden and store my boat in the winter. The only thing I use the water for is watering the garden.

Is there another fix for this thing? A friend says we could attach an air compressor to the pipe and shoot about 100lbs down there, or we could Get some pipe and drive it thru the point on the bottom to open it up. The well digger says when he drilled the first one that he drove that point in there so hard that would never come back up out of there.

Reply: Dynamite or Shooting a Rifle Down the Well are Bad Ideas

What you describe is loss of well yield, or loss of water flow into the driven point or lower section of the well pipe. This could be caused by the well itself going dry or going to a very reduced water flow, but the most common cause of this problem is just what your well driller says, a clogged well point.

While we know folks who used to drop dynamite down drilled or hand dug wells to try to correct the yield, neither dynamite nor shooting a rifle down into a water well are a recommended procedure.

If the well point is indeed clogged you would need to pull up the well piping and replace the point, then re-drive the well, or simply drive a new point down in the same area.

But first You could try sending high pressure water or even high pressure air backwards through the pipe to see if you can de-clog the point, but we're not optimistic. Also, some driven point wells also use a well screen that is at the top of the well pipe. Take a look at your well piping to see if there are any screens or fittings above ground that can be disassembled, inspected for evidence of clogging, and then cleaned or replaced.

Don't try driving an inner pipe through the well piping - you'll just break the point or jam things up worse.

Follow-up: Success in Restoring Driven Point Well Water Flow

We used an air compressor with about 120 lbs of constant pressure to blow air back down the well pipe. We attached a tire valve to a coupler which we attached to the well pipe to make it easy to hook up the air compressor to the piping, then we blew high pressure air into the well for about 10 minutes.

We then took off the well pipe check valve, which seems to be all plastic, and ran water thru it along with some WD40 to be sure that there was no problem with a clogged check valve itself.

Then we put everything back together and turned on the well pump. We had some pretty rusty water in the beginning but it cleared up, and I had beautiful pressure!!! My original problem was that the water pressure would not last, trickle down to nothing then build again.

I sprayed the garden hose for a good 20 minutes without missing a beat.

This process had restored water flow by clearing a clogged driven point on the well pipe bottom.

The fact that flow is now good and continuous argues that indeed the problem was the clogged driven point, not a loss of water flow in the ground around the point.

What we don't know is how successfully we've de-clogged the point, how many of its clogged openings we unblocked, and how long this repair will last, but it's a great attempt that might be totally successful.

Common Methods for De-Clogging a Driven Point Well Screen

Question: pellets or chemicals to un-clog a driven point well

2018/06/11 Wesley said:

Can you buy pellets to put down the point so you can clean that screen for a stopped up screen

Reply: Acids, pellets, compressed air, wire brushing, driven point well restoration methods

Products sold to "de-clog" the screen on a driven point well range from tablets to granular powders to more-dangerous liquid acids.

OPINION: Even if de-clogging of a plugged driven pont well screen is permitted where you live, before trying aggressive chemicals I might try wire brushing or mechanical cleaning, or simple compressed air to de-clog the point of a driven -point well. Several readers have had success with those methods. Well experts (cited below) point out that even if the wire brush method is not fully successful, it can increase the chances of success if you later use a well point cleaning acid.

Acids, including hydrochloric acid or HCL, also referred to as muriatic acid, and also Glycolic acid (hydroxyacetic acid), (or vinegar) have been used to de-clog well screens for generations but as we warn below, using acids in a well may be illegal in some jurisdictions.

Watch out: Do not simply pour acid nor anything else into your well without checking with local officials as well as the company producing the product you're considering using to de-clog your well screen.

Watch out: Check with your local plumbing and building officials before even trying to restore a clogged well screen on a driven point well at al. Here is an example guideline for plugged well screens from the U.S. Wisconsin DNR:

The well code defines screen replacement as well reconstruction. When the screen for an existing driven-point well in a basement or a pit becomes plugged, the screen may not be legally replaced.

The well must be properly abandoned and filled and a new well must be constructed outside in a complying location. - Wisconsin DNR, retrieved 2018/06/12, original source  DRIVEN POINT (Sand-Point) WELLS cited in detail below.

OPINION: the reason that de-clogging or un-plugging a clogged driven point well screen may be prohibited in some areas is the concern that when you pour a potentially toxic chemical into such a well you risk contaminating the aquifer and the local environment with a chemical that may be difficult or impossible to completely remove. Therefore if the chemical is not properly applied, it's particularly harmful.

Driven point well or sand point well construction illustration adapted from Wisconsin DNR cited in detail in this article (C) InspectApedia.comQuestion: drive the driven well point deeper for more water?

(Jan 31, 2015) norm f said:

I have a driven well, 40 feet deep 120 years old 6-inch diameter casing, has no driven point just casing with a few holes in it, had it cleaned with air and acid, now I want to deepen it can I drive down a three foot driven well point to get more water?

The sand point well illustration shown here is adapted from DRIVEN POINT (Sand-Point) WELLS, [PDF] Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources, PUB DG 022 2010 retrieved 2018/06/12, original source: https://dnr.wi.gov/files/PDF/pubs/DG/DG0022.pdf

Reply:

Norm, possibly yes. However I would be very skeptical about trying to drive a 120-year-old steel pipe or casing deeper into the soil.

We don't know the condition of the well pipe, the amount of corrosion, nor do we know the depth of the top and bottom of the water table where your well is located.

You risk damaging or even collapsing the old well pipe. I suppose that since the alternative is to drive a new sand point well, and as that's what you'll have to do in any event if trying to drive the old point well deeper crushes it, you might risk it.

Question: lose prime when the well sits for a time

(Mar 31, 2014) Anonymous said:

replaced pump and pressure tank, Have good water, but if it sits for a time I loose the prime on the well side of the foot valve. On the pump side of the foot valve keeps its pressure. Am at a lose.

There are some old fittings on the well side of the foot valve where it hooks to the sand point.

Reply: driven point well that loses prime means dropping water table or piping leak

Anon, on a driven point well that is normally very shallow and uses an above-ground single line jet pump, you should not be losing prime unless a check valve at the pump has failed, or if the point of the well is now out of the water level in the ground.

Check and replace any questionable check valves at the pump, then check that there are no visible leaks in the well piping;

You may have to replace leaky well piping or, less likely, drive a new sand point, and deeper.

Driven Point / Sand Point Well Restoration References & Products

NuWell well cleaning tablests cited & discussed at InspectApedia.comIllustration: Nu-Well (cited below) pelletized acid well cleaner removes calcium deposits.

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Reader Comments, Questions & Answers About The Article Above

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On 2020-10-25 - by (mod) -

Scott

If you haven't changed the foot valve and the well previously was working, then I suspect something else; do you think the well point is clogged or is the problem that there's a leak somewhere in the well piping; The two mean very different repair paths.

On 2020-10-25 by scott

i'm working on a 11 foot deep well point that lost siphon. how can i get the siphon going again? there's plenty of drop to the tank below and i've tried pumping water up the line to the well point, the released the water to flow down, but it doesn't draw the water up the well pipe (1-1/2 " galv iron).

so i put a 3/4" poly pipe with a foot valve at the bottom down into the well pipe and tried again. when i pull the poly pipe up and down, the foot valve opens and water comes out. but when i try to siphon, it stops.

i think that the spring on the foot valve is too strong and the siphon cannot keep it open. thoughts? renewable_energy@comcast.net

On 2020-05-25 - by (mod) -

You could try some of the restoration stuff's on this page. We also can't tell from the comment whether the problem is clogging of the driven point or whether the flow rate to the point has simply deteriorated.

On 2020-05-25 by don

my point has 6' of water at 23' . my pipe filled with water . I tried flushing an turning the pipe . the pipe would not turn . I hooked up my pump and my point is only giving me 2gal/minute approximately . what do I need to do ?

On 2018-06-12 - by (mod) -

Wesley

Yes. Please see your question and a detailed answer in the article above.

You may need to wait a few hours or clear your browser cache to see the updated article.

On 2018-06-11 by Wesley

Can you buy pellets to put down the point so you can clean that screen for a stopped up screen

On 2018-06-11 - by (mod) -

I think if that or at least you would have been water tested to make sure that it is potable or a safe to drink.

On 2018-06-10 by Fran

Do i have to do anything special to a new point drivin to 28’ or just use it. I have 3gl a minute off the pump

On 2018-02-01 - by (mod) -

See WATER PUMP WONT STOP RUNNING

On 2018-01-28 by Anonymous

Punk will only go up to 32 pounds

On 2016-11-22 by Anonymous

What to use to clean older well point

On 2016-03-13 - by (mod) -

First I'd confirm that the pump works and was properly primed: an air leak anywhere could be the trouble;

On 2016-03-13 by Andrew

Drove a 1 1/4 well point 22ft down.went easy but pipe holding water but will not pump.I live in Maine on a flood plane.also we live off grid.what could be problem?


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