Here we discuss the question of whether or not asbestos was ever combined with fiberglass, as indeed it appears to have been in some patent disclosures found in our research.
This article series describes the uses and identification of asbestos-containing products.
Page top photo: many readers ask about asbestos in floor tiles; on occasion people ask whether asbestos was combined with fiberglas in floor tile backers, carpet padding, or other building materials.
Short answer: yes asbestos and fiberglass were occasionally combined, though it's unlikely that you'd find such products in most buildings.
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If a product such as building insulation, pipe wrap, or floor tile is identified as fiberglass, is that an assurance that it does not contain asbestos?
Usually the answer is yes, if it's fiberglass it's not asbestos. But as our research cited here documents, there were exceptions to that "rule".
Asbestos was combined with other fibres in products including specialty yarns and fabrics, particularly where heat or fire-resistance was an important design consideration.
Asbestos may have been combined with other fibres including fiberglass as reinforcement in some cementious products as well.
Contemporary fiberglass products including insulating batts and pipe insulation would not contain asbestos.
As you can read in the research citations below, the history of combining asbestos and fiberglass materials in various products, possibly (research ongoing) including flooring, dates at least from the 1930's in North America.
- further research & citations needed - Ed.
- further research & citations needed - Ed.
Owens Ilinois Glass Company's Kaylo Pipe Covering and Kaylo block insulation produced from 1940 to ca. 1972 or possibly 1973, contained as much as 20% asbestos, principally chrysotile asbestos and a smaller amount of amosite asbestos.
Asbestos-based Kaylo block was used as the insulating core in Owens-Ilinois Glass Company's Kaylo Firedoor in the 1950s. Note that when completely enclosed such as in the core of a fire door there should be no detectable asbestos hazard from the door as long as it is left intact.
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Asbestos-based Kaylo block was also used in some doors as an insulating core by other door manufacturers such as by Overly Manufacturing Company.
[Insert Overly fire door]
By at least 1972 at least some Kayo products did not contain asbestos as you can read in this product description for:
KAYLO 10 ASBESTOS FREE PIPE INSULATION [PDF] Commercial D.11, October 1972
Excerpt:
Kaylo10 Asbestos Free* is particularly suitable on high temperature pipeing systems where high performance and extended temperature ranges are required.
* Kaylo10 Asbestos Free is a trademark of Owens-Corning Fiberglass Corp.
Really? More in-depth review is needed to confirm that both fiberglass and asbestos appear in Kaylo. - Ed.
An InspectApedai reader asked us:
Any thoughts on this tile? Appears to be vinyl with a fiber (glass, I hope) backing. House was built in 1978 but likely had basement finished (and tile put down) later than that.
In Detroit metro area. Water has caused adhesive to dissolve and come up, appears white. 2020/04/11 Dave
Reply: NO, not quite: but fiberglass and asbestos may have been used together in some products including floor tiles & ceiling tiles, gaskets, ropes, fabrics
White backer on a vinyl floor tile made before the end of the 1980's may contain asbestos. I'd treat the floor thus or have a sample tested.
Fiberglass was combined with asbestos in some products
Although the use of long asbestos fibers diminished in most countries as fiberglass became more-commonly-available, both products continued in use, sometimes together as this research illustrates.
Unfortunately, although the combination of asbestos and fiberglass in flooring is uncommon, or at least has not been widely reported, we cannot absolutely assure you that if fiberglass is present in a floor tile that asbestos is absent.
A practical example might be (and this is speculative on my part - DF) that asbestos and fiberglass might have been combined in an asbestos-containing tile or sheet flooring backer.
Another InspectApedia reader asked a similar question:
I was told that matting may have been made with asbestos and fiberglass. I'm assuming this carpet has been laid around 1985-1990? On 2023-06-05 by Red -
Reply by InspectApedia Publisher - need citation that states carpet padding in some cases was made by combining asbestos and fiberglass
@Red,
Thank you for the question.
If you could go back to the source or person who told you that carpet padding in some cases was made by combining asbestos and fiberglass, and ask them for any source or citation or reference supporting that assertion, that would be very helpful as that's not a product that we have found.What we have found on this question is documented above on this page.
Our reader asked: This insulation is wrapped around the HVAC ductwork in my home. Built in the mid 70s. Do you think this is asbestos insulation? On 2023-01-16
by Davis L
Answer by InspectApedia Publisher (mod) - No that is jute insulation
@Davis L,
That looks like Jute or a similar insulating product. It is not asbestos and not likely to contain asbestos.
Re-posting from private email: A third InspectApedia reader wrote to us asking:
First of all, I wanted to thank you immensely for your wonderful database. I'm grateful for all the wonderful information your provide. I truly can't thank you enough!
Secondly, I would like to seek your help regarding identifying the material in the three photos I've attached to this email. They're all pipe insulation found in my basement around regular (mostly) copper water supply pipes.
I'm concerned about the insulation itself but also the white paper or plastic wrap that is also degraded and being reinforced with packing and/or aluminum tape.
The bit that concerns me most is the most damaged insulation around the pipe coming right out of the water meter. They may have been added at different times.
I suspect it's all fiberglass and the tape or casing is plastic or paper but perhaps it's asbestos or asbestos containing material.
I'm no expert and I'm not sure about the oldest bit by the water meter in particular.
We only bought the house a year ago. I also know from some research that even the fiberglass insulation can have asbestos in it.
This is simply black mastic or whatever you call it and I don't see that in the insulation in my house, though I've not torn it to look underneath so I can't be sure.
What I'm wondering is whether there can be some asbestos fibers mixed into this insulation especially the bit by the water meter, independent of any black mastic. I've lost count of all the things asbestos fibers were added to and perhaps this fiberglass insulation is among them.
I would very much appreciate your help with this matter since we have upcoming renovations next week or the one after that will involve this section of the basement. - Anonymous 2022/06/16
The house was built in 1912 but, of course, there have been several renovations over the years in bits and pieces so to speak. It's a two-story, two-bedroom house. It's located in Toronto, Ontario, Canada. On 2022-06-19
by Anon (email) -
Answer by InspectApedia-911 (mod) - Your photos show what looks like common fiberglass / plastic / pape / foil insulating pipe wrap products
@Anonymous
On or in a house that old certainly there could have been any number of asbestos-containing products, including drywall and joint compound visible in one of your photos.
But the pipe insulation in your photos looks like fiberglass and common fiberglass /plastic/paper/foil wraps.
Take a look at our photos of ASBESTOS PIPE INSULATION
Separately, at FIBERGLASS INSULATION IDENTIFICATION & PROPERTIES we gave our OPINION that Generally fiberglass insulation does not contain asbestos unless by cross-contamination.
Asbestos pipe insulation typically looks like this photo showing the classic "corrugated cardboard" shape into which asbestos-based paper was formed to make an insulating pipe wrap widely used on heating pipes and some water pipes in buildings.
Note that asbestos fibres may be found in old mastic adhesives - as you've read, though that material is not normally friable so doesn't release particles to the air except if disturbed such as by demolition.
Note that asbestos could well be in drywall and joint compound and possibly in a foundation waterproofing paint in your home, depending on the age of those materials.
And of course asbestos was used in thousands of other products.
That's not a reason to be frightened. It's a reason to avoid disturbing suspect materials, cover them, or if there must be demolition, then use appropriate procedures.If you have authoritative unbiased research confirming that there is asbestos in fiberglass insulation please send me that reference so that we can review and include it here.
Fiberglass and asbestos were combined in some products, particularly fabrics and yarns.
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In sum, the presence of fiberglass fibers as an ingredient in some products does not allow us to rule-out the presence of asbestos in those products as well but frankly it's not highly likely in most building insulation products. - Daniel Friedman
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