Flood-Damaged fiberboard insulating board or IB sheathing FAQs:
Questions & answers on insulating-board water damage, flood damage & occurrence & detection of mold contamination on fiberboard & wood-fiber-based insulating board sheathing.
This article series discusses flood damage and mold damage on fiberboard insulating products and building sheathing products such as Homasote, Celotex, and Masonite insulating board sheathing.
We describe alternative procedures for removal of moldy or flood damaged insulating board sheathing, assessing insulating board (IB) mold contamination, and wall repair or restoration options after fiberboard has been removed.
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These questions & answers about how to remove & clean-up water or flood damaged or moldy insulating board (B) sheathing & repair options for flood damaged brick veneer homes were posted originally
at BRICK VENEER WALL REPAIRS in FLOOD PRONE AREAS
or at this companion article FIBERBOARD SHEATHING MOLD CONTAMINATION
(Sept 4, 2016) Anonymous said:
I live in Denham Springs, LA and we just experienced a major flood a couple weeks ago. Our home has been gutted and treated for mold but I'm worried about this blackboard (possibly Celotex?) not being dry enough.
After mentioning it to friends that also flooded they shared info they were told by their insurance (we don't have flood ins). We had between 10-12 inches of water in our house, will this material dry out?
Taking out the brick to replace it sounds crazy expensive but we don't want to enclose it and possibly cause mold growth. Help please! I should mention that it's only in a few areas of our home-along a section of the wall of our kitchen and along a section of the bathroom and into the master bedroom.
Basically it's on the "sides" of our home not the front or back walls, those have plywood.
My parents have a similar experience in Baton Rouge, LA. They had 20 inches of water and the house has brick veneer all the way around. The flood insurance company is saying that they'll pay for the replacement of the outside sheathing, but it must be done from the inside (sounds crazy).
They're saying there's a method "They will remove it between studs and replace it the same way using cross bracing to support it in place. " I can't seems to find anyone that's ever heard of this method.
On 2016-09-26 by CRS - Contractor opinion on mold remediation of flooded homes in Baton Rouge & Denham Springs: brick veneer over fiberboard
I am a contractor that has been working on this flood since we could get out. I am currently working on several homes in the Baton Rouge and Denham Springs area. The majority of the homes that have a brick veneer on the exterior will see the mineral fiberboard (black press board Georgia Pacific or similar to Celotex) excluding the corners of the house.
This has to be a structurally rated plywood to meet the wind load. I have been in this business for 30 years.
I have never removed exterior sheeting from the inside. The only way you can do this and still meet the manufactures specifications is to install it per the specification which ultimately means from the exterior. The insurance companies are feeding these flood victims a line of garbage.
Your claim will include the replacement cost of the materials but not the exterior brick removal and repair as this will in most cased exceed the limits of the policy.
There is a product on the market that can be applied to properly clean these surfaces.
Most of these products are wood fiber infused with an asphalt treatment. There should not be a problem down the road with product failure since they are rated for exterior use. They were designed to get wet
On 2016/10/04 Flood Survivor wants to kill the mold since it's hard and expensive to remove
I am also dealing with the 1970 backer board and fiber board behind a brick veneer wall and would desperately like to find someone who can tell me how to properly fix this without removing the entire wall.
CRS [a flood damage repair contractor whose comments are below] seems to know a lot about this and even suggested a product that will clean the surface.
How can I either get in touch with CRS or find out the name of this product? - Flood Survivor
OPINION: I agree with that water-damaged and moldy fiberboard (or gypsum board) sheathing behind the cladding or brick or stone veneer walls is a serious problem, and one we've discussed with other flood victims in Louisiana, Texas and Florida and who are trying to do building restoration.
Wet or moldy sections of fiberboard sheathing, also referred to as insulating board or IB or by a specific product trade name like Homasote™, Celotex™ or GoldBond™ (a gypsum board sheathing product) that has been flooded usually needs to be replaced.
Removing the brick veneer to replace flood damaged wall sheathing is indeed ruinously expensive and worse, that repair approach will not prevent future damage at the next flood.
Some fiberboard products will be swollen and damaged by water but might not be mold reservoirs. But planning to leave that material in place invites future failures in exterior siding, siding connectors to the building framing, buckled siding, and possibly the later discovery of a costly and dangerous mold reservoir that should have been removed.
Fiberboard was not "designed to get wet" as CRS offered in his opinion. Fiberboard or insulating board was traditionally treated with a water resistant surface coating such as wax or asphalt; that product was designed to shed water or to resist moisture.
Nothing in the product specifications for these products describes resistance to area flooding that leaves the insulating board literally under water, often for days or even weeks.
Fiberboard insulating sheathing is not a waterproof material.
See FIBERBOARD PROTECT from WATER.
What are the risks of leaving a harmful mold reservoir in a building?
Plenty: future illnesses among building occupants, serious health risks for people who may be particularly sensitive to mold spores or MVOCs, such as asthmatics, immune-impaired occupants, infants, or the elderly; future costs to have to perform extensive demolition and cleanup of moldy materials that should have been removed during the first repair.
After wet and flood damaged materials have been removed and mold has been cleaned from remaining hard surfaces such as solid wood framing, plywood, or painted masonry, I'd consider using a fungicidal sealant to reduce future moisture uptake and thus improve the mold resistance of those materials left in place.
At BRICK VENEER WALL REPAIRS in FLOOD PRONE AREAS we describe repair procedures to remove flood or water-damaged or moldy fiberboard sheathing behind a brick veneer wall and how to repair the exposed wall cavity to reduce future water damage from flooding.
See FUNGICIDAL SEALANT USE GUIDE and also
see DISINFECTANTS, SANITIZERS, FUNGICIDAL-SEALANTS SOURCES to use these coatings.
See MOLD SANITIZER, SPRAY, BIOCIDE USE GUIDE for a "how-to" discussion of pros and cons of doing so.
Watch out: using a spray sanitizer or sealant or fungicidal paint is not a substitute for removing moldy drywall, wet insulation, nor does it subsitute for cleaning remaining moldy surfaces such as framing or wall sheathing.
Watch out: where IB or fiberboard sheathing was used on a building's exterior you should inspect the building wall corners for wood or metal bracing that is intended to protect the structure from leaning or racking during high winds.
Wind bracing may have been installed as let-in diagonal wood braces (see our photo), by cut in metal bracing, or by use of solid plywood sheathing at the building corners and at other key locations.
Updating the structure to modern strength and wind resistance by bracing may be necessary if your building lacks wind bracing. This might be accomplished by any of the following means.
Diagonal bracing as we describe below is installed to prevent racking of frame-built structures that are sheathed with non-structural materials such as fiberboard, insulating board, or foam board.
Watch out: Before choosing a metal strapping product for wall bracing check its specifications against what is required by local building codes where you live. Holladay, in an excellent Fine Homebuilding article on shear bracing points out that these products vary in strength, purpose, and acceptability.
You'll want to confirm design alternatives and your choice of wall bracing methods with a structural engineer to obtain a sign-off, but there are alternatives once you've removed moldy drywall, cleaned the wall cavities and sanitized them.
Insulation retrofits: Some of our readers have re-insulated wall cavities using a combination of styrofoam cut to fit, foam insulation, and fiberglass.
We presently are working on adding photographs and discussion of that work here in this article. I think sticking fiberglass or any other water-vulnerable insulation back into a wall cavity that is likely to be exposed to future flooding is a bad idea.
Future flood resistance: I'm really glad to see you discussing water-resistant restoration material choices. I am concerned about some Louisiana flood restoration work being done that will be damaged again by the next flood and would prefer that owners, contractors, and insurance companies discuss use of materials and methods that may reduce the cost of damage from the next inundation.
Watch out for hidden mold and moisture damage in walls or ceilings above the actual flood high-water line. Homes that sat for more than 24-48 hours in wet and high humidity are at high risk of hidden mold damage in upper walls and ceiling cavities.
Simply running a dehumidifier or two along with fans will not "extract" water from the cavities of a flooded building and if not started soon enough it may not have prevented extensive but hidden mold contamination higher in the building.
A few strategic test cuts into those areas are worthwhile. Inspect the cavity side of drywall for visible mold. It's much less costly to do this repair now than to have to return to a "restored" flood-damaged home next year to rip out all of that new work to remove a just-discovered harmful mold reservoir in the building.
See HIDDEN MOLD in CEILINGS / WALLS for some examples of strategic test cuts into buildings.
Other hidden mold advice is at HIDDEN MOLD, HOW TO FIND
Watch out for leaving unsafe electrical devices in a flooded building: Be sure that you insist on review and qualification or probably replacement of electrical devices that were flooded in these walls, such as receptacles and splices.
Also be sure to check for flood-clogged weep openings in brick veneer walls: those may need to be cleaned or opened as part of the restoration work lest wind-driven rain or other water later become trapped in the veneer wall cavity. See BRICK WALL DRAINAGE WEEP HOLES
Where upper sections of fiberboard sheathing are left in place on the building and when you are using closed cell foam insulation in the restored walls in order to improve future flood damage resistance, see BRICK VENEER WALL REPAIRS in FLOOD PRONE AREAS where we describe moving the brick or stone veneer wall vents higher up the wall to an appropriate location.
(May 7, 2012) Anonymous said:
Our home was built in the mid 60s with beaverboard insulation. We have sided over the original wood siding using redwood.
In 2011, the semi basement house was flooded, with about 8 feet of water on the main floor. There was water in the house for over a month.
It was gutted, power washed, sprayed professionally with a moldicide and allowed to dry for the winter.
We have left the exterior because it is almost impossible to find redwood. It has been tested for mold by a professional, and except in one place, the mold level is "acceptable".
We are receiving conflicting advice, one expert tells us that we should paint the fiberboard with a microbial such as Fosters, the other says to leave it alone; painting it will seal any moisture in and create a breeding ground for any existing mold. What is your opinion?
I don't know what "acceptable" means without objective data, site observations and something more than an unaccountable position from someone with whom you may have no recourse.
I'm also unclear about who saw what where.
But in my OPINION, given the cost and trouble of a gut renovation, I'd be inclined to use a fungicidal sealant on the interior of the wall cavities that have been cleaned and dried.
I suspect your'e also worrying about mold trapped between the exterior siding's interior surface and the outer surface of the wall sheathing.
If that's the case I'd make a few test explorations in the most-suspect areas and I'd study the wall construction; in a more thorough study I might use some vacuum testing to see if it is possible to pull mold from the exterior wall sheathing surface or siding backside into the wall cavity - simulating changing building wall cavity pressures.
Chances are you won't be able to pull much through the wall even at butt joints of the sheathing (those should be over studs anyway).
Mold on a building exterior should be cleaned and the mold-producing conditions corrected but it's not normally a hazard to building occupants unless you put your fingers in harmful mold and then into your eye.
There are sanitizers and spray cleaners that can reduce mold growth or mold viability on surfaces but that still risk leaving harmful, toxic, pathogenic or allergenic particles in the building.
Cleaning the surface of flood-damaged and moldy fiberboard or drywall will not be effective. Leaving a large reservoir of such contaminants risks serious health hazards for future building occupants.
It's easy to clean mold from exposed hard surfaces and almost impossible to reliably remove it from soft goods such as drywall or moldy fiberboard.
It *might* be possible in theory to remove mold present *only* on the surface of a waxed, treated, sealed surface of fiberboard sheathing if you could expose both sides of that material for cleaning (you can't without total demolition) and *if* you could prove that the material's interior had remained dry and mold-free during area flooding (you can't).
OPINION: Short of demolition and removal of mold-contaminated soft goods, about the best you could do - and in my opinion this is rather dangerous - would be to disinfect as best you can, dry the area, and seal it thoroughly to preclude movement of harmful particles or gases into the occupied space.
But there are better approaches explored in this FAQs article and described in detail at BRICK VENEER WALL REPAIRS in FLOOD PRONE AREAS.
Beware of very-appealing shortcuts and magic bullets. When we face a very costly cure for a problem, the temptation to try something else is nearly overwhelming. That's quite reasonable if there are not high-cost, high-risk downsides that exist at high probability.
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Continue reading at BRICK VENEER WALL REPAIRS in FLOOD PRONE AREAS - what to do if your brick veneer wall building has been flooded, for more about these questions and their answers.
Or see these
BRICK VENEER WALL LEAKS in FLOOD PRONE AREAS - avoiding or handling leaks of flood waters through a brick veneer wall
FIBERBOARD SHEATHING IDENTIFICATION
FIBERBOARD SHEATHING MOLD CONTAMINATION
FIBERBOARD SHEATHING - home
FLOOD DAMAGE REPAIR PRIORITIES
FLOOD & DISASTER BUILDING DAMAGE REPAIR PROCEDURES
MOLD ACTION GUIDE - WHAT TO DO ABOUT MOLD
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