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FAQs on Heat Tapes to Prevent Frozen Pipes#2
Q&A on how to prevent pipes from freezing
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Heating tape freeze protection for pipes: questions & answers
Here are frequently-asked questions (and replies) on the use of heat or heating tapes to protect pipes from freezing.
This article series explains where, why, and how to add heat at cold problem spots to avoid freezing pipes - both supply pipes and drain pipes. We also point to information on using heating cables on heating oil piping and in in other locations. We discuss the safe use of heat tapes in buildings and warn about unsafe heating tapes and fire hazards.
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FAQs on Using Heat Tapes & Cables to Protect Pipes From Freezing #2
Recent questions & answers about using heating tapes on pipes, posted originally
at HEAT TAPES to AVOID FROZEN PIPES - please be sure to review the advice given there.
On 2018-10-28 by (mod) - can I insulate over Frostex heat tapes?
Alex
Can you say exactly which Frostex product or attach a photo of the tzpe and its packaging?
Some pipe heating tapes permit insulation, others not.
Watch out: failure to follow the manufacturer's heat tape installation instrutions risks a fire or frozen pipe damage.
On 2018-10-28 by Alex
I am using frostext heat tape in my mobile home can i use foam insulation to cover the heat tape..
On 2018-07-23 by (mod) - don't insulate before reading the heat tape instructions
Thanks, Don for a great question.
I would not insulate heating cable lines before reading the instructions from the heating tape (or in some countries "heat trace") instructions from the manufacturers. Some heating cables will overheat and can be a fire hazard if insulated over.
Beyond the fire issue - which is key - there's a practical concern with how you'll get to the cable to replace it when it fails, but perhaps that's secondary.
Where water lines are running through a ceiling they have no business freezing in a building that is being heated in winter. I admit I don't know a shred of a thing about your situation, but
- if your building is heated, let's focus first on finding and fixing the air leaks or insulation defects that are letting pipes freeze in an insulated ceiling - surely that should not be happening.
- Sometimes I add heat in an older building simply by putting a grate or two into a ceiling in a problem area - that lets a bit of warm air from the heated space enter the problem spot.
You see I am trying to solve the problem in a durable way that's a simple as possible.
See PIPE FREEZE-UP POINTS https://inspectapedia.com/plumbing/Pipe_Freeze_Points.php
On 2018-07-23 by Don
Can you install heat cable to water lines in a ceiling and insulate and sheetrock over them ?
On 2018-01-07 2 y (mod) -
Mike
It's often the case that a slow flow of water through a low-sloped drain line in freezing locations will freeze and block the drain.
Solutions are
- use a larger diameter drain line
- increase the slope if that's feasible
- use heat tapes
Beware that even if the pipe itself is protected from freezing we sometimes see an accumulation of ice at the drain outlet - that can still block the drain. Careful placement of heat tape near the end of the pipe can prevent that issue.
On 2018-01-07 by Mike
I have 3 I attic HVAC units and they have drain Ines for condensation that ecut through PVC pipe out through the soffit. When it getting close to 0 outside the drain lines freeze. What's the best method to prevent this?
On 2018-01-05 by (mod) - how to use heat tape and insulation on pipes that are close-together
It will be most-effective to wrap each pipe individually, but it's perfectly fine for your heating tape to bridge through air at the end of one wrapped-pipe to pass over to the second pipe to be wrapped.
If your pipe-heating tape is a brand and model that permits being covered by insulation (or requires it) then you could wrap both pipes at once and that will be adequate for most situations.
Leaving the drywall open on the heated side of the building should reduce the risk of freezing (presuming the building is heated) it also permits access to the pipes and heating tapes when the tape needs replacement or the pipes need repair.
I never would run a pipe heating tape through a concealed space.
On 2018-01-05 by Tom
I have hot and cold water pipes that run up an exterior wall and they have frozen in the past.
The water pipes run parallel to each other and are only 1.5 inches apart. I was thinking about using an electric pipe heating cable made by WRAP-ON from Home depot which requires fiberglass insulation loosely wrapped around the cord.
Since the pipes are so close together I'm not sure how to wrap them.
I Can wrap them individually but not sure I can wrap the insulation indivually on the pipes after due to them being so close together. Can I wrap the insulation around both pipes at the same time?
Or would wrapping the electrical cable around both pipes and then wrapping it with insulation work..
..it might be less efficient. Also, since the pipes are in the walls, I would leave the dry wall along the pipe length open. The fridge placed in front of it helps to hide the big hole in the wall.
On 2017-12-30 y (mod) - use heating tapes at mobile homes?
Yes
On 2017-12-29 by Dot
Can you use
heat tape inside I live in a mobile home and pipes are on outside wall in an area where it is difficult to heat and have froze in the past was thinking of putting tape on them
On 2017-12-27 by (mod) - heating tapes on plastic pipe?
I would be careful about putting heat tape over plastic pipe - it could melt and result in a leak.
If the distance of un-taped pipe is short, say an inch or so, the surrounding warmth of the heat tape + insulation will be sufficient as long as the pipe is not in a spot where it is exposed to an icy draft.
On 2017-12-27 by Lynn
I live in a trailer. I had the heat taped replaced last year. There is a spot in the pipes where the heat tape doesn't cover.. It where the plastic pipe connects to the metal pipe. I was wondering if I could put a small piece of heat tape in that one spot
On 2017-11-21 by (mod) - find a way to seal drafts
No. You need to find a way to seal drafts and then direct some heat into that area
On 2017-11-20 by Anonymous
I can't not reach area where pipes freeze would my heat tape work on pipe if it was six foot before freezing area
On 2017-10-31 by (mod) -
Paul
Take a look at PIPE FREEZE PROTECTION - home - for a series of articles of which the page you're on (heat tapes) is one option.
I'd need to know more specifics before I could make more-detailed suggestions.
Choices involve adding heat, insulation, heat tapes, changing out pipe materials, keeping water flowing in a loop, and other steps.
On 2017-10-31 by PAUL
Hi, I have a barn that is not heated and I live in Illinois. I need to try and keep water out there vs. shutting it down and blowing out the lines. The copper pipe is pretty extensive, to some horse stalls, 2 spigots, toilet, sink and more.
I was thinking about using heat tapes but am not sure how many to get or where to place them. I'm not sure it would be feasible to cover all the pipe. If you have a response you could email to me, I would be so very grateful. pjc69@sbcglobal.net
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Citations & References
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- [1] "New Electric Heat Tapes Help Prevent Fires," US Consumer Product Safety Commission (CPSC) #00936
- [5] "Freezeproof Your House," Mike McClintock, Rodale's New Shelter, p. 30, October 1985 (approximate date)
- [6] "How to Winterize Your Pipes," Mike McClintock, Homeowners How-To Magazine, p. 59-62, Nov-Dec 1979.
- [7] "HUD Regulation for Manufactured Homes; Requirement that Heat-Tape not include a GFCI [ copy on file as /plumbing/GFCI_Heat_Tapes_HUD_CPSC_Letter1994.pdf ] - ", Meeting Log, US CPSC, HUD, Dennis McCoskrie, ESEE, 2/14/1994
- [8] Thanks to reader Ryan T. Duffy for discussing the suggestion for GFCI's on heat tape circuits to reduce fire risk, October 2010.
- [9] Easy Heat heating cables, "Easy Heat AHB-013 Cold Weather Valve and Pipe Heating Cable",
http://www.emersonindustrial.com/, retrieved 3/2/2013,
Product Description: Temperature-controlled cable runs straight along pipe and valves, held in place by application tape and plugs into grounded electrical outlet. Keeps water flowing down to -380. For odd lengths of pipe over 3/4 inches in diameter, we recommend two separate cables on opposite sides of the pipe with up to 3 feet of overrun at center of pipe run. Metal pipe requires 1/2-inch fiberglass insulation around cable. For plastic pipe, its recommended wrapping pipe with aluminum foil before cable installation. The traditional resistance cable produces a fixed amount of heat based on the electrical line feed. It comes with a built-in thermostat that switches the flow of electricity on and off based on temperature. Cable installs fast and easy. Each package contains grounded plug, built in thermostat and instructions. Cable has weather resistant PVC outer jacket and inner insulation. Keeps water flowing down to 40 F. - [10] Easy Heat, "Easy Heat® Freeze Free® Preset Thermostat (EH-38)" , EGS Electrical Group, 9377 W. Higgins Rd.
Rosemont, IL 60018, USA or EGS Electrical Group, 99 Union Street
Elmira, ON N3B 3L7, Canada. Tel: 800.621.1506,
Product specifications: 15 amps, 120 volts 1800 watts Thermostat for use with Freeze Free Self-Regulating pipe heating cable, For dry location only, UL listed, CSA certified - [11] RayChem "Self-Regulating Pipe Heating and Roof/Gutter De-Icing Cable", Rachem Corporation, 300 Constitution Drive, Menlo Park, California 94025-1164, U.S.A., Website: http://raychem.te.com/, retrieved 3/2/2013, Product Description:
Self Regulating Heating Cable, Mounting Location Dry, Cable Length 50 ft., Max. Circuit Length 200 ft., Voltage 120, 6 Watts per Foot @ 40F, 0.050 Amps per Foot @ 40FFeatures Self Regulating, Automatically Adjust Heat Output, For Use With Lighter Plastic or Metal Pipes Up to 8 In. Dia., Standards UL Listed and CSA Certified, Includes Cable Only; Characteristics : Tough Metal Braided Self Regulating Heating Cables, Can be Overlapped and Insulated without Overheating or Burning Out, Automatically Adjust Heat Output at Each Point Along its Length without Using Thermostats, Standards : UL Listed and CSA Certified, Includes : Cable Only - In addition to citations & references found in this article, see the research citations given at the end of the related articles found at our suggested
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