Orangeburg pipe history, ingredients, and uses.
Orangeburg pipe is black, not orange, and is fragile after spending decades buried underground. We also address the question of the presence of asbestos in Orangeburg pipe manufactured during some years.
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Orangeburg pipes, named not for their color but for the town (Orangeburg NY) where the Fibre Conduit Company, the major manufacturer of this type of pipe material.
Despite it's name, "Orangeburg pipe" is not orange in color and it never was.
Orangeburg pipes are black, made of somewhat fragile compressed layers of asphalt impregnated wood pulp, and from 1946-1970 included asbestos and later wollastonite for additional strength.
In North America by the mid 1970's plastic pipe (ABS and PVC) supplanted the use of Orangeburg in new installations, but even today, decades later, Orangeburg pipe may be found at some older properties like the one I (DF) photographed in 2011, shown in our photo.
Photo: an Orangeburg pipe used as a water line, passing above a modern black ABS drain line, courtesy of InspectApedia reader Fabio.
Where found today (2025) any Orangeburg pipe is likely to be in deteriorated condition and not reliable or not working at all.
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Orangeburg piping was first used in Boston in 1865 [earlier than the founding of Fibre Conduit Co].
Black coal-tar impregnated fiber piping was widely used in North American from 1950 to 1970.
The name Orangeburg pipe comes from the main producer of this product, the Fibre Conduit Co., in Orangeburg, New York.
The Fibre Conduit Company was founded by Stephen Bradley (owner of electric lighting and power companies) in Orangeburg NY in 1893.
By the time the sign advertising "Orangeburg root-proof pipe" shown here was in use, the company also had facilities in Newark California.
In its earliest production the steam waste exhaust from early steam-generated electrical power plants was used in the manufacture of Orangeburg pipe to heat and dry it.
Later orangeburg pipe was also used as five-foot sections of electrical wire conduit, probably a successor to the much heavier and more costly tar-filled pipes that carried Edison's earliest Solid Iron Tubing or Steel Pipe & Pitch Insulated Electrical Cables.
An advantage of asphalt-based conduit piping was its resistance to corrosion and acids.
The 1939 Worlds' Fair advertisement described wide use of Orangeburg pipe by that year.
Orangeburg pipe was sold for underground ductwork use with a concrete encasement as well as an Orangeburg "Nocrete" version was used for electrical service entrances and similar applications.
By the late 1930's to early 1940's this wood-fibre-based conduit or piping was marketed under the brand Alkacid.
This Orangeburg advertisement, celebrating its installation in Boston was published in the July 15 1933edition of Electrical World.
Later Alkacid and other brands of fibre-based asphalt impregnated pipe were replced by asbestos-cement pipe or transite pipe.
In the U.S. it's use fell close to zero by 1972 when it was replaced by alternative piping materials.
In North America Orangeburg pipe was used in both municipal water supply piping systems and in both public sewer systems and in private septic systems as well as other site drainage systems from the 1860s to as late as the late 1970s.
Orangeburg piping was used in both un-perforated form as septic distribution piping and more widely in perforated form as effluent distribution piping in septic drainfields and as buried downspout drain lines. Some installations were surrounded by concrete.
Orangeburg pipe was also used without concrete as a no-crete Orangeburg pipe installation for electrical conduit and its early use included steam system piping. In its widest use Orangeburg pipe was sold and installed in five-foot sections.
As we explain
at AGE of PLUMBING MATERIALS & FIXTURES,
Orangeburg drain & septic field piping, most widely used in drain piping and septic fields, was made of multiple layers of ground wood fibers bound with an adhesive mastic (coal tar), impregnated with coal tar pitch, and typically looking like black"tarred" piping.
Watch out: Orangeburg pipe, where still in use, will often be found delaminating and may have broken or collapsed.
You can see my photo of a section of that earlier electrical cabling
at STEAM BOILERS GENERATORS CONTROLS, PRATT
Orangeburg drain piping and sewer piping was not made just by Fiber Conduit.
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We estimate by the late 1940's, and continuing through the 1960's perforated Orangeburg pipe was widely used in the U.S. and parts of Canada for area drains and particularly as distribution piping in septic drainfields.
We still come across Orangeburg pipe when excavating old septic drainfields and on occasion when inspecting an older home, say before 1970, you may see the top of a section of Orangeburg pipe peeking up above ground as a connection for a roof gutter downspout.
In our Orangeburg pipe downspout drain photo above we are pointing out (the pen) that perforated pipe was used as a buried drain right next to the building - inviting basement water entry even if the drain is not yet clogged.
Watch out: if you see a buried downspout drain using a material not commonly installed for 40 years, that the drain itself is likely be blocked or to have collapsed by now.
Below is an excerpt from a 1955 advertisement describing Orangeburg as "root proof" pipe. Our experience and other sources cited here found otherwise.
Watch out: What about a septic drainfield built using Orangeburg pipe?
Despite the advertisement above, Orangeburg pipe was less rigid than terra-cotta piping (though also less fragile), making it vulnerable to both crushing-collapse and tree-root invasion.
In fact some of our research sources cited root invasion as the most common mode of orangeburg pipe failure, though with age, collapse is also common.
If you encounter a septic absorption bed or drainfield that used Orangeburg pipe you should not count on the continued usability of that septic system. Such a drainfield is by now likely to be in questionable, if not failed condition.
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Above: a table of dimensions of Orangeburg pipe and couplings from the 1944 Commercial Standard CS116-44 cited in detail below.
Orangeburg pipe was manufactured in a variety of diameters and thicknesses for various applications including electrical conduit and sewer or drainfield effluent distribution pipes.
Orangeburg common diameters ranged from 3" to 8" I.D.
Orangeburg pipe used as perforated septic drainfield piping had a nominal ID of 4.00 inches and an O.D. that varied by manufacturer; the pipe wall was about 3/16" to 1/4" thick.
Orangeburg with a 4.0" ID and that's 3/16" thick would have an OD of about 4.375"
Orangeburg pipe lengths varied; most sources assert that Orangeburg was most-widely used in 5-foot lengths; the table above cites 5 ft and 8 ft. lengths; other sources assert that it was also sold in 10 ft. lengths.
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Bottom line: Orangeburg pipe was made principally of asphalt and cellulose (wood fiber or wood pulp) based material or in some texts, less-accurately, "tar paper" reinforced using oakum or hemp (Kirkland 1868).
At least some Orangeburg pipe manufactured between 1946 and 1970 was made using wood pulp combined with asbestos. (TenTen Env. 2016)
After 1970 the asbestos in Orangeburg pipe was replaced with wollastonite (MgO2 fibrous material). (TenTen Env. 2016)
Asbestos hazard? In any case, in our OPINION, because Orangeburg is not a friable material and it's usually buried, it presents no meaningful asbestos hazard unless it is excavated and demolished using dust-creating methods like sawing or grinding. - Opinion, DF.
While few sources are clear on this point and some research confuses cement asbestos pipe with Orangeburg, it's possible that some production of Orangeburg pipe included asbestos which would have been added as a filler or as a strengthening fiber.
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Illustration: from the Ellis patent cited just above. [Click to enlarge any image]
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Below you will find questions and answers previously posted on this page at its page bottom reader comment box.
Illustration above: an Orangeburg "Root-Proof" pipe advertisement ca 1955.
We encounter and replace old Orangeburg electrical duct and Nocrete duct fairly often.
Does anyone have any information about whether this could contain asbestos, and if so, is it friable. Thanks in advance. On 2024-05-01 by Tom Reynolds
Reply by InspectApedia Publisher (mod) - Asbestos, yes, Friable, no.
@Tom Reynolds,
Orangeburg pipe, as you can read in more detail in the patent citations that we excerpt in this article, was in essence wood or paper pulp impregnated with an asphaltic waterproofing material.However asbestos was added to some Orangeburg pipe from the late 1940's to 1970, as you'll find in the article above on this page.
As "Friable" is defined as easily reduced to a dust or powder (that could thus easily become airborne) by the mere pressure of a thumb and forefinger, no, Orangeburg pipe is not friable.
Is it possible to seal a leak from an orangeburg soil downpipe or must it be removed, thanks.
The leak is from a joint. - On 2023-07-11 Albert Krawinkel
Reply by InspectApedia Publisher (mod) - Yes but with this warning
@Albert Krawinkel,
Thanks for the helpful question.In my OPINION, while you might make a temporary repair of old orangeburg pipe - probably part of a septic drainfield or downspout drain or foundation drain system - by now the whole orangeburg pipe system is so old that it's likely to be well past its useful life and ready for complete replacement.
The risk is throwing good money after bad in a series of repairs until you toss in the towel and dig up the whole pipe system.
So yes, I'd go for a short term "fix" by excavating and patching the old pipe using Fernco type rubber fittings, but I suspect when you look more-closely you're going to see that the system needs more-extensive replacement.
Watch out: our review of local plumbing ordinances from several U.S. cities and similar authorities occasionally came across the statement in describing septic or sewer pipe installation regulations:
"Where Orangeburg pipe is encountered it shall be removed and replaced with contemporary pipe materials."Still I'd expect most local plumbing inspectors to be okay with your making a temporary repair such as by using a rubber coupling.
I hope you can help me, passing a new drain pipe I found and a black Orangeburg water line pipe that goes from the meter to the main water valve.
The internal diameter should be 1 inch but the OD (Outside Diameter) is something like 1.39 r 1.40.
I need to make some room and resolve a poor slope of a drain pipe that is just below, I thought something like (kind of bridge) 45 up straight and then 45 down.
I can't find anything that fits that OD Do you know what kind of fitting I have to use? Can I glue it with a 1-inch white PVC On 2022-11-06
by Fabio
Reply by InspectApedia (Editor) (mod) - Rubber couplings
@Fabio,
I doubt that you can glue successfully or reliably if the pipe material is correctly identified as what you are calling Orangeburg.
But in the lower part of your photo you can see that there are two stainless steel clamps with a rubber coupling fitting.
So clearly you can buy an over the counter rubber coupling (See Fernco couplings for examples) that would allow you to make another connections.
Measure the inside diameter as well as the outside diameter.
Then you you have two fitting type options when you ask your plumbing supplier to provide you with a reducing Tee.
If I rap on an Orangeburg pipe with a metal wrench will it make a metallic sound or more of a wood thud sound On 2022-06-25 by pbfateley@frontier.com
Reply by InspectApedia-911 (mod) - Thud
@pbfateley,
Thank you for a challenging question.
I don't think they are is a single correct answer to the sound that Orangeburg pipe with make when rapped on with a wrench.
Consider that if the pipe is in the ground and surrounded mostly by soil or is filled with debris when you wrap on it will probably make a thunk sound.
On the other hand if you held a hard fired clay section of pipe in the air in one hand or by one edge and tapped on it with a wrench, it may well ring, just as a clay or ceramic pot will make different sounds depending on its contents, firing, and position.
I am dealing with concrete encased ductbanks. They have 5" Orangeburg conduits raceways. I am needing to remove the Orangeburg if possible and line it. What is the O.D of 5" Orangeburg conduits? On 2021-04-16 by Richard Geisler -
Reply by danjoefriedman (mod)
@Richard Geisler,
from the page above we have
Orangeburg common diameters ranged from 3" to 8" I.D. Those are "nominal" interior diameters - the actual products varied slightly.
Orangeburg pipe used as perforated septic drainfield piping for residential use had an O.D. that varied by manufacturer; the pipe wall was typically about 3/16" to 1/4" thick. so add those to your 5" ID dimension.
2019/07/19 MR. PHIL said:
1. What are the inside and outside diameters of 4" ORANGEBURG PIPE (sewage application) ?
2. What is the pipe wall dimensions of 4" orangeburg pipe?
3. Is there a BRAND NAME company that makes a re-liner insertable into an orangeburg pipe for prevention of collapse???
4. If not (3.) then is there an existing size/type of PVC or metal pipe that would work similar to a reliner insert?
Reply:
Orangeburg common diameters ranged from 3" to 8" I.D. Those are "nominal" interior diameters - the actual products varied slightsly.
Orangeburg pipe used as perforated septic drainfield piping for residential use had a nominal I.D. of 4.00 inches and an O.D. that varied by manufacturer; the pipe wall wastypically about 3/16" to 1/4" thick.
Orangeburg with a 4.0" ID and that's 3/16" thick would have an OD of about 4.375"
I've made emergency repairs and connections using flexible rubber Fernco couplings.
See complete details at ORANGEBURG PIPE DIMENSIONS
Was Orangeburg pipe used as a water supply line?
Was there ever any Orangeburg pipe manufactured as water SUPPLY line? 2020-09-03 by JDStavely
Reply by (mod) - yes in some municipal water mains
JD
Thanks for the helpful Orangeburg pipe question: Yes, Orangeburg was used in some municipal water supply lines as early as the 1860s and remained in widespread use in North America up to the 1970s. We've seen photos of street excavation with Orangeburg pipe fragments.
For water supply piping Orangeburg was replaced most-often with white (or green) PVC (polyvinyl chloride plastic) water supply pipes while Orangeburg pipe used in drain systems and septic systems was usually replaced with black ABS (acrylonitrile butadiene styrene) pipe.
One of my downspouts was feeding into this pipe. House was built in 1959. I’m guessing it’s some type of Orangeburg pipe? And I’ve read mixed opinions on whether an Orangeburg pipe fo this age could contain asbestos...any insights would be most appreciated. Thanks! On 2020-08-02 by Ellen Rollings
by (mod) -
While the usual description of Orangeburg is paper fiber and asphalt, it's possible that it may contain asbestos; but as your pipe is buried, there is no airborne asbestos hazard.
by Ellen Rollings
Thank you! It’s actually weirdly semi-buried, as you can see in this photo (the black pipe near the new downspout extender I installed)...it seems to be in good condition and is under the deck so it’s a low traffic area. Would you suggest just leaving it alone?
Above: Ellen's photo of the end view of a segment of Orangeburg pipe shows the black asphalt-impregnated layers of wood-based material of which Orangeburg pipe is comprised.
by (mod) -
Yes. Or if you can pick up the pieces intact, without creating a mess, the old pipe can be disposed-of as construction debris.
by Ellen Rollings
Thanks so much! I’d be hesitant to try and remove it as it’s at least half below grade...any value in going over it with some already paint just to seal any potential compromised areas?
Photo above: clay drainpiping - by InspectApedia. This is NOT Orangeburg pipe. It's fired ceramic clay.
I am repairing root intrusion at the joints of 4" sewer pipe that is older than orangeburg.
It's quite stout thick ceramic pipe.
The pieces of pipe (so far)seem fine.
The roots are just starting to come in at the joints.
I've been digging them up at the joints and cleaning there.
My main question is, do you know how long generally the pieces of pipe are.
If I knew that it will save me quite a lot of unnecessary digging.
Thanks, Jim
650-366-3629 On 2020-05-06 by James Moyles
Reply by (mod) - Orangeburg pipe dimensions: diameters & lengths
I'm sorry but without more information any guesses likely to be wrong. In fact ceramic sewer lines (which are not Orangeburg) were sold in varying lengths.
Orangeburg pipe - discussed on this page - is NOT a ceramic product but is bituminous, made of wood fibre and asphalt. Orangeburg sewer piping had a nominal inside diameter or I.D. of 4.00" and an outside diameter or O.D. of about 4 1/2".
Orangeburg Pipe Inside Diameter:
2" to 18" depending on use
Orangeburg Pipe Outside Diameter:
Orangeburg pipe walls were roughly 3/16" to 1/4" thick, possibly thicker for the larger diameter versions.
It sounds like you're describing an Old Bell and hub system that used what's properly named "Mission Band-Seal Vitrified Clay Pipe" - this is not Orangeburg, though the color of vitrified clay pipe is, indeed, orange or orange-brown.
Ceramic or clay sewer or drain line pipes were usually shorter in length, typically 4 ft. or 6 ft. long with a nominal ID of 4,6,8 or 10 inches.
Details are at ORANGEBURG PIPE DIMENSIONS
My suggestion is to excavate a long one length and then you will know the standard length at least in that area.
Clay drainfield piping (not Orangeburg pipe) or "drain tiles" shown in our photo below is discussed in our article on sewer line replacement,
What kinds of pipe were used in septic drainfields beforer 1963?
What types of piping were used in drain fields prior to 1963 ? 2019-07-21 by David
by (mod) -
Terra cotta, perforated orangeburg, vitreous clay would have been common. Cast iron piping used for building drains would probably change over to these in the septic fields.
Inspector is challenging me about the type of copper pipe installed for waste pipe on my urinals. I installed DWV Copper tube and he says type m is minimum. What do you say I cannot find anything in ontario plumbing code 2006. - Karac Rushton - 6/29/2012
Reply: 2007 Ontario Plumbing code permits K & L copper; M above ground; DWV above ground but not buried.
Karac,
I'm not sure why you're asking about copper pipe on a page about Orangeburg pipe but I'll take a stab at answering.
Also see COPPER PIPING in BUILDINGS
the 2007 Ontario Plumbing code is available online at opseu560[dot]org/BuildingCode-2007[dot]pdf and section 7 discusses plumbing.
There are some additional standards that apply:7.2.2.2. Conformance to Standards
(1) Every water closet and urinal shall conform to the requirements in Article 7.6.4.2.
(2) Every vitreous china fixture shall conform to CAN/CSA-B45.1, "Ceramic PlumbingFixtures".
(3) Every enameled cast iron fixture shall conform to CAN/CSA-B45.2, "Enamelled Cast IronPlumbing Fixtures".
(4) Every porcelain enamelled steel fixture shall conform to CAN/CSA-B45.3, "Porcelain-Enamelled Steel Plumbing Fixtures".
Copper pipe shall conform to ASTM B42, "Seamless Copper Pipe, Standard Sizes".
That code includes a table of allowed uses of copper. Table 7.2.7.4. - Permitted Use of Copper Tube and PipeForming Part of Sentence 7.2.7.4.(2)
In the table, if I read it correctly it says that
the drainage system piping can use K & L hard copper, and M-hard above ground but not buried, and DWV above ground but not underground.
So if all your DWV is above ground, by that table you're in compliance. You can show the table to your building inspector, and if you are polite you might get somewhere.
Don't forget that the local code compliance inspector has FINAL AUTHORITY.
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