Aspergillosis illnesses & Aspergillus mold in buildings:
This article provides basic descriptions of Aspergillus-related illnesses and discusses valid versus in-valid inspection and testing techniques used to detect mold contamination in buildings, including Aspergillus sp. molds.
At page top: an Aspergillus sp. conidiophores under the microscope at about 1200x.
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There are approximately 180 species of Aspergillus, but fewer than 40 of them are known to cause infections in humans. Aspergillus fumigatus is the most common cause of human Aspergillus infections. Other common species include A. flavus, A. terreus, and A. niger. (U.S. CDC 2019)
Watch out: people who are concerned about possible mold-related illness should consult their primary care physician and with that doctor's advice decide if referral to a pulmonologist with expertise in mold related illness is appropriate.
We also issue this trigger warning: reading this material can cause an anxiety-induced asthma attach, though most likely if you read with care you'll see that for most people anxiety is merited.
Greenberger (2002) discusses allergic bronchopulmonary aspergillosis (ABPA) as an illness complicating asthma and cystic fibrosis, noting that The survival factors in Aspergillus fumigatus that support saprophytic growth in bronchial mucus are not understood.
At left: Aspergillus fumigatus conidiophore showing characteristic long spore chains - lab photo, Daniel Friedman.
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Beyond asthmatics and people with cystic fibrosis, and focusing on immunie-impaired patients, Cornet (2002) notes that invasive aspergillosis is the most prevalent mould infection, and Soubani (2002) offers this recap of the importance of recognizing and treating pulmonary aspergillosis, particularly for people with a compromised immune system but as well for patients suffering from asthma:
Aspergillus is a ubiquitous fungus that causes a variety of clinical syndromes in the lung, ranging from aspergilloma in patients with lung cavities, to chronic necrotizing aspergillosis in those who are mildly immunocompromised or have chronic lung disease.
Invasive pulmonary aspergillosis (IPA) is a severe and commonly fatal disease that is seen in immunocompromised patients, while allergic bronchopulmonary aspergillosis is a hypersensitivity reaction to Aspergillus antigens that mainly affects patients with asthma.
In light of the increasing risk factors leading to IPA, such as organ transplantation and immunosuppressive therapy, and recent advances in the diagnosis and treatment of Aspergillus-related lung diseases, it is essential for clinicians to be familiar with the clinical presentation, diagnostic methods, and approach to management of the spectrum of pulmonary aspergillosis.
Patterson (2000) as well as virtually all authors writing in this field emphasize the importance of early diagnosis and treatment in the successful outcome for people with invasive aspergillosis while also noting that rapid diagnosis of invasive aspergillosis - a more serious illness - is difficult as most facilities lack the tools for definite diagnosis, making clinical detection of central importance.
By 2007 Greene described the use of computed tomography (CT) and the "halo sign" in diagnosing invasive pulmonary aspergillosis (IPA), concluding
Initiation of antifungal treatment on the basis of the identification of a halo sign by chest CT is associated with a significantly better response to treatment and improved survival.
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The Aspergillus Taxonomic Scheme generously provided above by Janet Gallup, EMLaboratory, shows that while there are light colors of species of Aspergillus, most of its species are more-exciting in their pigment.
15 September 2015 Caroline said:
My father tested positive for Aspergillus fumigatus. I called some mold testing people to come out & all of them said they would do an air test in his room ( which is in the basement) and in the basement.
I read how you said an air quality test is not always accurate because of the changes in the room, so I was wondering what kind of testing you would recommend. Also, I do have a compost heap outside. So I wondered if I got rid of it, would it take care of the situation?
Caroline,
You can find my email at the page bottom CONTACT link and by email I can offer a number for pro-bono consulting in this matter.
There is a place for air testing and properly done it can be informative. But considering the orders of magnitude variation in measurements of the level of airborne particles just in response to very small changes (waving a notebook in the air for example), a "negative" air test result cannot be trusted, and even a "positive" air test for mold that produces a high mold count cannot for a moment be presumed to actually describe the level of exposure of the building occupants to mold.
And no “test for mold” alone is going to tell us where the problem is nor what needs to be done about it. It’s instead a profitable “indicator test” that might find evidence of a problem that’s really there - or it might miss a real problem. The physician needs to be included in the process.
An effective mold contamination investigation, to be useful, must be accurate and it must be prescriptive.
Watch out: opportunists of all levels of education and training have leapt enthusiastically into the "mold business"; but only a few do the real job. It is far too tempting, too profitable, and easier and faster to just stop by and "collect an air sample.
Even if the sample’s lab result says “yes there is a problem here” that alone is not diagnostic nor prescriptive. It doesn't tell us where the problem is (or where they are), what cleanup is needed, what corrections are needed to prevent future problems.
The following is excerpted from MOLD by MICROSCOPE
Photographs of Aspergillus sp. mold spores under the microscope (above left) and Aspergillus niger culture (above right). Because their airborne spores look similar, also see Penicillium culture [image file], and also see these Penicillium spores [image file].
Aspergillus and Penicillium spores are difficult to differentiate when they are found in air that you may see them reported in test results as "Pen/Asp".
Watch out: Most Pen/Asp spores are round, hyaline (colorless) and small and lack surface features to aid in their precise identification by microscope when the spores are found alone, or in air samples (and if not in spore chains). In that case the spores may not even be identified as (potentially harmful) molds and may just be called amerospores in the lab report.
But when these spores appear in spore chains (as that's how they are born) they should not be labeled as amerospores, and at least some of these airborne spores in the Aspergillus/Penicillium group can be identified from the spore alone (such as Aspergillus niger).
Above at left we're examining an Aspergillus fumigatus conidiophore from a top-down view. The Aspergillus fumigatus conidiophore is the spore-producing structure and as you can see spores are produced in dense profusion and in long chains.
Above at right we illustrate a quite dense building-surface growth of Aspergillus niger and Aspergillus fumigatus side by side, in the same surface sample, but not quite intermixed. These spores were collected by a tape lift sample. The colorless spores in the open area may be another species of Aspergillus or of Penicillium.
See MOLD APPEARANCE - WHAT MOLD LOOKS LIKE for images of what mold looks like when growing on building surfaces or materials.
The following is excerpted
from MOLD RELATED ILLNESS SYMPTOMS
Everyone breathes in some Aspergillus spores every day, including Aspergillus fumigatus that is itself quite common in the air. In healthy people breathing in mold spores does not cause a health problem as they are breathed out, coughed-out, or handled by the individual's immune system. In people with a suppressed immune system there are however health risks from breathing in such spores.
I don’t know what test your Dad had performed nor whether or not the test that was performed distinguishes between the presence of Aspergillus spores (they can be hard to speciate) and the existence of Aspergillosis disease.
Many people have Aspergillus spores in their lungs. I do. I have exampled coughed up flem for, and found, significant levels of Aspergillus spores.
That alone does not mean that a person has Aspergillosis.
Aspergillosis is detected by a variety of means including a combination of imaging and sometimes biopsy or even surgical procedures. Under the microscope
we’d see not just spores but living, branching fungal hyphae (think “roots” or “branches” that ultimately produce as well conidiophores or spore-producing structures).
Denning (1998) notes that invasive aspergillosis was first identified as an opportunistic infection in 1958 and adds that the diagnosis of Aspergillosis has since then increased significantly. He cites four reasons for an increase in the number of poeple at risk of developing invasive aspergillosis:
For those of us including myself who can be frightened by reading about Aspergillosis it is significant to note that while there are fungal diseases that can affect healthy people, those whose immune system is impaired or suppressed are at the greatest risk. Having some Aspergillus spores in your spit doesn't mean you've got Aspergillosis.
Fisher (1981) noted that:
In one year, only 9 percent of the patients with Aspergillus species isolated from the sputum had an invasive infection.
Yu (1986) points out:
One hundred and eight consecutive patients were evaluated in whom Aspergillus species were isolated from respiratory secretions. Invasive aspergillosis was not demonstrated in non-immunosuppressed patients or in patients with solid tumors in the absence of neutropenia. Lung tissue was examined in 17 patients with leukemia and/or neutropenia [few neutrophils in the blood, leading to increased susceptibility to infection.
It is an undesirable side effect of some cancer treatments - Ed.]; all had invasive aspergillosis. Tissue examination was not performed in 20 neutropenic patients; of 17 not receiving antifungal therapy, 16 died.
Aspergillosis is usually a quite serious medical problem deserving expert medical care (often treated with anti-fungal medicines, steroids, sometimes surgery). Un-treated it can be fatal.
A common species of Aspergillus found in people suffering from Aspergillosis is Aspergillus fumigatus - shown below in photos from our laboratory.
Your dad will want to discuss his medical condition with his doctor immediately and if they agree, to be referred to a pulmonologist who is a specialist in the area of fungal diseases.
I add that Aspergillosis usually affects seriously people who suffer from immune system impairment for any of a variety of reasons. In healthy people the Aspergillus spores that we inhale do not cause a medical problem.
Aspergillosis related diseases can occur in anyone (at least some of of the Aspergillus-related diseases) but affect particularly seriously people who suffer from immune system impairment for any of a variety of reasons. In healthy people the Aspergillus spores that we inhale do not normally cause a medical problem.
Well they are and they aren't. Certainly there are other mold genera/species that can be quite harmful, pathogenic, toxic, or allergenic to humans.
But these two mold groups, in my opinion, particularly Aspergillus sp., grow happily on an enormous variety of materials that are found on or in building interiors. So do some other molds such as Stachybotrys chartarum that has taken a beating in the public media and that is often a mycotoxin-rich mold spore. Here's an important difference:
Stachybotrys chartarum is a comparatively huge spore, maybe 10 x 20 microns, and it's sticky. It evolved to be spread by sticking to a cow's foot as the cow rambled around in damp or wet straw. Bit spores are not easily airborne unless you kick them around and they tend not to be airborne in huge numbers unless you're doing a maniacal demolition of moldy drywall without dust control. Big mold spores want to get stuck in the nose of the inhaler.
Aspergillus and Penicillium spores can be as small as 1u, that's 1 micron. These teensy spores pass easily through small openings, remain airborne for a long time, are easily carried on indoor convection currents, and can be inhaled deeply into the lung.
During a building investigation for problematic levels of mold contamination (more than 30 sq. ft. deserves professional remediation) we need to look not just at the external visible surfaces but we need to be alert for the possibility of a large but hidden mold reservoir in a building ceiling or wall cavity or even in building insulation.
How do those Aspergillus spores get out to become inhaled? Building pressure changes can indeed cause air to move in and out of walls or ceilings enough that if there is a significant mold reservoir we may find it in the indoor environment even though it's not visible. And surprisingly (to those of us who are not mycologists), changes in temperature, humidity, and sometimes even barometric pressure can cause a veritable explosion of production of mold spores.
In a college library in New York and inspecting and testing both before and after a building dry-out project began, I could both measure and actually see a tremendous increase in the airborne Aspergillus sp. level in the building after a mold "remediation" company installed fans and dehumidifiers.
The drop in humidity converted a large mold reservoir on some books to a large airborne mold cloud. When the humidity level plummeted I could actually see little clouds of green Aspergillus spores swirl into the air as I walked past moldy books on shelves. The Aspergillus had been there for a while, in a damp environment. Things dried out and the Aspergillus conidiophore mommas said to their spore-babies: Hey you kids, you're outa-here! Everybody into the air, now!
I don't suggest running through the house with an axe, but it is worth a careful inspection for humidity or moisture traps as well as possibly hidden leaks. If I can identify one or more high risk locations in a building I'd make a small test cut to look inside the cavity.
If I cannot find any high risk locations AND if there are not building-related IAQ complaints AND if I do not find abnormal occurrences of problematic mold spores in tape samples of representative settled dust, then I have to conclude there's not sufficient evidence of an indoor resevoir to cut or dig further.
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Below you will find questions and answers previously posted on this page at its page bottom reader comment box.
There was a leaking pipe in my home in a wall that we couldn't see . We found out about the problem bc of water intrusion in the walk in closet on the opposite side of the shared wall .
My sons father is 38 years old and unfortunately has an inoperable brain tumor . Prior to this he experienced a significant increase of seizure activity . Immediately prior to this he had the worse seizure I have seen to date , a 3 minute long grand mal seizure resulting in facial injury and head trauma .
I called a water mitigation company and they did a two foot cut out and pulled out the tub and surround . They pulled up the carpet and found water damaged asbestos tile .
They project remained at a standstill as we waited for the asbestos testing the insurance wanted . During that time my mother started experiencing neuroconitive changes word finding difficultly, forgetfulness, mood swings, temperature intolerance , lethargy , eye sweeping , respiratory symptoms to name a few . My 6 year old who has asthma and environmental allergies started having high fever comiting lethargy , night sweats . My two year old was having night sweats . I had everyone including my two dogs evacuate the home .
I requested mold testing . The beam in my bathroom came back positive for stachyboturs , the surface testing on my mothers furniture came back possitive for aspergillosis. The aspergillosis in the air testing came back twice the amount of the outside air even after we left I disturbed for days . The air quality inspector the insurance company sent is calling this "normal " background noise as he says we shouldn't have an issue in the living room .
Even though I said they put ky mothers belongings on my living room carpet . The first company I had pulled out mold from the Sheetrock from the walls in the bathroom which I didn't know how much or how it should properly be done . There was no containment no negative pressure . I fear my entire home is contaminated .
The remediation plan was redacted to insclude HEPA sandwhich of the entire house including soft goods, couches, and carpets and says mycotoxins and VOCs should be considered .
The house wasn't tested for it and replacement of these items is not included .
I had to take a leave of absence to get everyone to all of these medical appointments and we are requested a medical disability accommodation for my partner which as been denied by his job . I have researched and learned about mycotoxins but can't find a doctor to test or treat my mom . I went as far as having my son ( who we now know has multiple mold allergies) evaluated by environmental pediatrician at an environmental clinic in the city but turns out they aren't educated about mycotoxins .
I am desperate to have my own testing for vocs and mycotoxins as I'm terribly to bring my family back into a home that is making them sick .
Any help you could provide I would appreciate. I have photos the environmental testing the remediation if you would be willing to review . I just want to make sure my family is safe . - Anonymous by private email 2022/05/30
Mold tests: are unreliable - Unfortunately testing alone without a very thorough inspection of the extent of work and its effectiveness, would not be reliable nor effective. In particular air tests are notoriously inaccurate with four orders of magnitude variation. Knowing so little about the home and its materials and history, we can't even be confident that while you were testing for are the only or even the most important hazards there.
Testing for MVOCs is unreliable: variations in building conditions such as humidity, temperature, and variations in mold genera/species mean that building tests for MVOCs (Mold-Volatile Organic Compounds) are at risk of giving a false negative result.
Comparing indoor and outdoor Aspergillus or Penicillium spores, though commonly included in building mold tests, is misleading since the species are likely to be entirely different.
Furthermore, no air or culture test for mold is reliable if or when such testing is used alone, without an expert inspection, review of building history, occupant complaints and vulnerabilities, etc.
Instead what's required is a more thoughtful and intelligent look at the building and its history and if the work that has been done.
Halting a mold cleanup job for testing? About your mold remediation project "remaining at a standstill", in my OPINION, immune-impaired or other highly-vulnerable people (such as infant, elderly, asthatic) ought not be present in a building at all during mold remdiation and ought not return until you are comletely confident in the successful results of post mold-remediation clearance inspection and testing.
Don't need to ID the mold to remove it: And because knowing the mold genera/species doesn't change the cleanup requirements, I'm baffled about why the job stopped.
Watch out: if a mold remediation job stops for days or longer there is risk that mold contamination in the building spreads and the ultimate cost of the job will be increased. That risk is multiplied if mold-causing building water leaks or moisture problems are also ongoing.
Watch out: in my experience, some insurance companies or adjusters are so pressed to control the costs to their company that you may not receive advice that is safe for building occupants.
Watch out: if building carpets or upholstered furniture were wet or othewise mold contaminated, they can not be successfully cleaned and need to be removed.
Keep in mind that Stachybotrys sp., or Aspergillosis sp., while both are serious health concerns if present at significant levels indoors, are by no means the only molds that will be present in a water-damaged building.
Doctors treating affected people may want to know what mold genera/species were dominant in the building, but for mold remediation, knowing the genera/species do not make one bit of difference in what is needed:
Find the mold, remove it, and fix the leaks that caused it's growth in the building.
Yes that makes complete sense . That addresses a lot of my concerns . I'm fearful that the remediation plan is place might not address all of the issue. I also know we had the asbestos tile issue . My home was built in the 70s. I have no idea what other environmental dangers might be present . All I know is the manipulation of the building material and removal of the rug seems to be what triggered an exacerbation and new onset of symptoms .
I do hve the testing remediation plan and the breakdown of the contractor who is supposed to be insisting the work . I'm trying to figure out if it's best to allow this plan to move forward and then explore further after if problems persist . I'm terribly afraid to bring my family back to my house if it's unsafe and making them sick .
I have taken my mother to primary care , infectious disease , rheumatology and they all found no answers.
My 6 year old has been to asthma and allergy, ent , environmental pediatrician, pediatrician and just more referrals for gi , neurology, and neuropsychology which I have already scheduled but earliest available is months out .
I do know when I have gone back to the house and I get headaches and shaky hands if only there for a short time . I could send over everything I have if you would be willing to review and make a suggestion . I have the appraisal from when I bough the house as well if that helps with building material .
Your description of conditions in the home certainly argue that it has not been adequately inspected and cleaned of mold or other indoor environmental hazards.
If you have specific question I can try to answer or can refer you to material we've already published that may be helpful.
But in solving the very serious health concerns that you have raised involving multiple peopple, you first need to find a doctor whom you trust and listen to her advice about how to best protect and treat your family members.
Trusting this to an off-site person, even someone with experience, is not sufficient nor reliable. In my experience, virtually always, when I've visited a building where there are health or safety or other building-related concerns, I found important, sometimes critical, additional information that was simply not apparent to an concerned occupant or to some others.
Thank you so much for taking your very valuable time to respond to me and also publish free informative educational information on your site . I can't even put into words how grateful I am for people like you. I did contact almost all the resources on your list in my area that did lead me in a better direction! If they couldn't help me themselves, just like you, they took their time (out of the kindness of their heart ) to atleast answer and if they could, suggest someone who might in fact be able to put my family in a better position to hopefully return to a safe environment.
Due to this wonderful network of people I did find someone who was able to come do an in person inspection and evaluation of my home today . They did an abundance of testing and explained why it was important from a healthcare perspective just as you have done in your reply.
This particular professional happens to have 20 plus years in environmental health and microbiology, gave me an honest explanation of each test, why he thought it was warranted or not, but also ultimately said it was up to me. He spent hours at my home and truly listened to my concerns prior to beginning testing. He explained that this will be a valuable tool for physicians. He in fact could give me three suggestions of providers, that I could consult with that could possibly suited to treat my family. He identified another source of water intrusion in "my living room control" area.
The moisture level exceeded the capability of the meter. He further explained just how the testing that was done already, even if done correctly was not as extensive and too limited considering the specific medical concerns of my family. I am totally in agreement with posting and sharing my story (anonymously for now) and hope in fact it helps someone else.
However if there is someone who I could possibly help and wants to connect directly, I wouldn't be opposed if you connect us offline. Fingers crossed this leads my family a step closer to healing. - Anon 2022/06/04
Thanks for your generous remarks.
I'm glad you got an experienced investigator on site.
Watch out: Remember that measuring moisture ONLY finds moisture that's present at the time of measurement.
An old leak into a building cavity can have produces a tremendous and hazardous mold reservoir even though it currently measures as "dry".
For that reason a thorough building investigation where there are complaints such as yours, probably needs some invasive inspection. I go to the "most-suspect" areas (based on building history, leak indicators, construction methods, building materials, common leak points) and make small test cuts to look into such cavities. If no problem is seen in the cavity, that doesn't reduce risk to zero but by starting with the most-suspect area we can become more-confident in our action plan for the building.
See details at HIDDEN MOLD, HOW TO FIND
and
at TEST CUTS for SAMPLING BUILDING MATERIALS
Work done previously without proper containment means there could certainly be moldy-dust contamination of building contents such as carpets, carpet padding, curtains, etc. (I often take a vacuum test of such materials.)
A doctor specializing in envrionmental medicine will know of medical tests that may be useful including tests for MVOC exposure.
In my OPINION (I am NOT expert on this point)
- Lung and respiratory illness
- Aspergillosis - hard to detect, hard to treat
- Effect of mycotoxins on neurology and brain function
- Hypersensitivity that can follow chronic or acute mold or mvoc or mycotoxin exposure
- Effects of all of these on people who are at extra risk: elderly, infant, immune impaired, asthmatic, etc.
These are things to discuss with your doctors.
I would like to see the inspection and test report from your recent building inspection.
On 2020-11-03 by (mod) - we discovered the mold that was poisoning us
Cece
I am sorry to read of your mold related illness concerns and agree that it is definitely overwhelming.
You need to be guided by your doctor not information you find online.
Most personal items and certainly all hard-surfaced items can be cleaned of mold or other surface contaminants; there is no justification for throwing these away unless the cost of cleaning (which might be simply wiping and HEPA vacuuming) exceeds the cost of replacing the item.
MOLD DOCTORS - ENVIRONMENTAL MEDICINE should be of help to you
On 2020-11-02 by Cece Webs - We even replaced the carbon monoxide detectors
We are a family of 4 including two small children under 4 at the time we discovered the mold that was poisoning us. Top Environmental Toxicologists confirmed not only did we have off the charts levels of mold in our apt, but two of the voluminous species were mycotoxin producing which aligns to the severe illness symptoms we were presenting with.
We are also in the unlucky group with the Haplotypes that do not properly clear mold and other environmental toxins from our system.
We had every symptom you could list under mold poisoning from me coughing up blood, to recurrent double ear infections and pneumonia. Skin infections that were assumed to be eczema at the time, and sores that were presumed to be hand/foot mouth, and even an odd situation for my infant (under 1 year old), where he had open ulcerating sores but was treated as if it was staff/strep because we were not aware of the toxic environment we were breathing in until it eventually ate thru the wall and cabinets.
We all were chronically ill for a previously healthy family and knew something was wrong when we could hardly stand and were so dizzy and fatigued we would have to sit while even opening the fridge to get food out. Now looking back on it, we were a classic fit for mold toxicity, but never assumed that for one second.
We even replaced the carbon monoxide detectors when feeling fatigued to collapsing and fearing there could be a gas issue involved was not being detected. Every step we tried to resolve our active issue while never understanding the systemic one that was worsening.
My question involves the medical profession and prolonged treatment and impact to a family including small children.
(I should state we have seen top professionals in NYC including the PEHSU unit at Mt Siani which is the top NY state funded environmental health program.... their response has always been the same... remove yourself from the environment, stay out, remediate...but of course this is what was done, yet that does not resolve the situation in our views, but only prevents from continued exposure.).
My question is this, we are now 2 years out, our belongings will never be recovered and we started anew as best we could.
Being out was not an immediate resolution for us and with in 2 weeks my children were in the ER still unable to breath and nearly stopping in the night. They would throw up flem multiple times gasping for breath all night.
This took nearly 4 months to breathe soundly at night. My 3 year old had a chest X-ray and steroids but my 1 year old did not. The steroids only added to his condition and we soon stopped. This impacted us all greatly in a cognitive capacity and physically. Speech and developmentally for the children and brain fog and memory for us as adults. While all has improved, we do not feel “normal”. 2 years out with none of our belongings, and all the appointments in the world and never a new solution to accelerate improvement or prevent this from compounding damage internally.
My beta d glucagon was off the charts showing signs of “allergic pathway inflamed by aerosolized mold spores” according to my pulmonologist but this was a blood test that was done as a courtesy after knowing my family and wanting to help us but in no way was his area of expertise and was stalled afterwards as the assumption was, you’re safe, you’re out. In no way did he expect bloodwork to support invasive fungal infections as we were walking talking seemingly put together humans though that couldn’t be farther from how we felt.
My concern is that while none of us actually received antifungals, and the impact is ongoing though we hoped the medical professionals would be correct and this would all just quickly dissipate, and so now I am left wondering if these spores have been left to run a muck in our systems targeting fatty organs like the brain, etc. where do we go from here whether it’s medical professionals in NYC area or remedies at home that are both safe for children and adults, even if different methodologies.
No doctor ever wants to touch how to actually manage this, particularly for children and we are at heightened sensitivity to environmental impact of things we breathe in, not just fungi. We have had several mini-relapse situation scares where our classic symptoms all begin to return and have to do massive cleanse. We have the top Hospital grade air filters and are on Top of cleaning and ensuring moisture is managed. We have air monitors, though more fitted for basic allergens and pollutants as mycotoxins are too small to capture.
We recently all had some inflammatory coughing skin, eyes, issues and dizzy/exhaustion, and come to find the pumpkins has developed some mold. They were not old, or even cut open, but were enough to impact us and so they went out and we’ve been in cleanup mode since. It’s a far more intensified impact than anyone else and is always like a magic hunt for where is the bad air when we have these symptoms crop up.
Every time we have found some odd growth of possibly not even a mycotoxin type of old but we are so sensitive that a small juicebix popping and spoiling to mold on damp cardboard in the bottom of a pantry is enough to make our allergic symptoms kick you that worsen if we don’t sleuth out the issue. Clearly we are extremely sensitive after this massive experience two years ago, but how do we go forward.
We have progressed in so many ways but almost anything would be an improvement of rock bottom where we were. My concern is the beta d glucagon was never addressed, and we never had scans or testing on impact to organs. Mt Siani refused today do a single test, even bloodwork on the kids, though we have some testing from allergist and pulmonologist. And their neurologist still feels they are too young for a brain scan/mri even with our now 5 year olds speech and OT issues because he would have to be sedated and she doesn’t want to take the risk.
Our other child is even younger so he hasn’t even had a chest scan. What is the way forward to ensure there is not further damage going on, and that we continue to heal from this as we have a way to go before feeling okay again. (We have Aspergillus Niger and Aspergillus Versicolor as well as many other species that can do harm outside of the mycotoxin category) ** I have tried silver and considering charcoal. The kids have supplemented vitamins with fish oil and probiotics. Throughout the experience we were given antibiotics, inhalers, allergy meds, steroids, creams, eye drops, and anything else you can think of... but never antivirals, though I’ve heard they are a beast so perhaps that was not the right course of action anyway. Thanks for reading my novel and for any suggestions you may have!
On 2020-10-16 by (mod) - USDA consumer warnings guided also by chemical industry
Note to readers:
Andrew Jacobs, writing for the New York Times in September 2020, discussed he effects of lobbying by the pesticide industry of the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
Jacobs reported that in essence the USDA not only sought input from the pesticide industry when considering regulations [in our OPINION fully appropriate] but went further in seeking industry approval of the government's position - at the expense of public health.
The reporter continued:
"Although the research on agricultural fungicides is less extensive than the study of antibiotics, scientists say the same dynamic is already playing out with the antifungal compounds that are sprayed on vegetables and flowers. Researchers believe the surge in a drug-resistant lung infection called aspergillosis is associated with the pesticides, and many suspect they are behind the rise of Candida auris, a deadly fungal infection."
[Note that Aspergllosis can be very difficult to treat and can be fatal as well - Ed.]
- source: Jacobs, Andrew, "Emails Show How Pesticide Industry Swayed U.S. Stance in U.N. Talks", The New York Times, Agriculture/Health Care, 26 September 2020, p. B3.
From The New York Times: accessible online:
Emails Show How Pesticide Industry Influenced U.S. Position in Health Talks
The U.S. insisted that new international guidelines on combating drug resistance omit any mention of fungicides — a demand that the industry made but that ran counter to science.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/24/health/pesticides-drug-resistance-trump-anifungals.html?smid=em-share
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Abstract Excerpt:
In particular, the issue of fungicide-resistance in relation to mycotoxin production needs to be addressed in a concerted programme of research. Additionally, the potential of breeding and selecting cultivars resistant to disease caused by toxigenic fungi needs to be exploited in a parallel search for an environmentally acceptable solution to the question of mycotoxin contamination of plant products.
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Tricyclazole as a common fungicide wildly used to control rice blast disease in the Asian country may induce azole resistance in Aspergillus fumigatus isolates. The main reason of the acquired azole resistance is probably environmental exposure through wide fungicide use in agriculture.
On 2020-03-22 by (mod)
Mike
Don't worry a bit. I'm glad to help however we can, and it's not necessary to be an English major to work with InspectApedia.com.
I don't know who told you about fruit and mulch mold nor what is that person's expertise, but in general mulch is outdoors - outdoor airborne molds would not normally explain the severe medical problems you describe.
Mold that grows on fruit, if found indoors, might be any of a great number of mold genera/species, some of which can be very serious and occasionally dangerous, particularly to someone already in weak or poor health or with respiratory illness, such as some of the specie of Aspergillus.
Aspergillosis (discussed on the page above) s a very serious fungal infection that can invade lungs, sinuses or possibly an eye, and it can be difficult to treat, especially in advanced stages or in someone who is weak and in poor health for other reasons.
However it would be unusual for the small volume of mold that might be on fruit to be sufficient in volume to make someone sick unless you stuck your finger right onto such mold and then put it in your eye or into your nose.
Most people would not eat much less fool with visibly moldy food; they ought to and probably would just throw it away.
Therefore a more-significant question is whether or not there is a dangerous mold reservoir - a larger area of mold-contaminated materials - in the home where she lived. No simple "mold test" can answer the question, but an expert can combine a thorough visual inspection, taking of history of the building's leak events or sewage backups etc, combined with the history of occupant complaints, observations, and health, along with an understanding of how and where mold grows in buildings to make a reasonable assessment of the chances that there is a mold problem that needs to be addressed.
If there's no visible mold in the home but the situation sounds serious enough the expert will go to one or more areas that are most-suspect of hidden mold such as a ceiling or wall that suffered prior leaks, and there she might make a small test opening to inspect the building cavity.
About how much time our cousin has remaining, that's not something on which I can comment (not an M.D., knowing nothing about the individual nor case, etc), but that's a fair question to ask her doctor.
Meanwhile I extend our deep sympathy to all of you suffering this added stress and sadness at what's already a difficult time for people everywhere during the Coronavirus pandemic.
On 2020-03-22 by Mike
I am sorry after the message was sent i seen how messed up it was. She went to the emergency room with a headache she had for three days. She is diabetic . They were going to give her aquadruple . She had a infection and was sent to Shan's hospital . It was a sinus infection. They ended up removing her eye, her eye socket and sinus cavity.
She had about six surgeries to scrape all they could. They finally sent her home in hospice care to basically die. We're told it was caused by mold from fruits and from mulch piles. We are all confused and shocked how quick this has happened. Her husband is going to be lost . He ask me if i could look up all i could about this and what kind of time she could have and what is he going to be dealing with her dieing .
On 2020-03-21 by Anonymous
Mike
With apology, I do not fully understand the question, but it sounds as if you have been given confusing information.
Some molds can create some illnesses, yes. But mold exposure would not directly lead to a requirement for heart bypass surgery.
First: ask your doctor or your cousin's doctor for a clear explanation in lay-person's terms that we can understand.
Second: if you worry that your home is mold-contaminated, a combination of visual inspection for visible mold and for a history of previous or current leaks can help find problem reservoirs of mold to be replaced.
See those details
at MOLD INVESTIGATION PROCEDURE TIPS
For help deciding if you need to hire someone to help you investigate for mold contamination see
MOLD / ENVIRONMENTAL EXPERT, HIRE ?
On 2020-03-21 by Mike
My cousin went to the emergency room with a headache she had for 3 days they said she had to have a quadruple bypass surgery but they found an infection which was a sinus infection a sign of Ash and she said up there for two weeks I had to take her eye out for eye socket out six operation scraping trying to get dcrape stuff out and then all the sudden they sent her home to die with hospice.
'We're just trying to figure out what happened. Shan's said it happen from mold found on fruits and from fruits and in mulch
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