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Photos & History of Master Electric Co. & Reliance Electric electric motors

Information about Master Electric Company, Master Electric Co. Motors & Reliance Electric Co. electric motors.

Page top photo: a 1963 vintage Master Electric Company motor.

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History of Master Electric Electric Motors

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Below: Older 1/2hp 1725 / 1425 RPM 3-phase electric motor and data tag from Master Alternating Current Motors, Master AC Motor Style 23721 7E

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Also see more about data tags at ELECTRIC MOTOR DATA TAG

You will find electric motors from this company labeled as

Master Alternating Current, Mater Electric Co., Dayton Ohio USA

and also as

Reliance Electric Duty Master A-C Motor, Mfd. by Reliance Electric Industrial Co., Cleveland OH

Reliance Electric Duty Master A-C Motor data tag (C) InspectApedia.comAccording to Vintage Machinery

The Master Electric Company was founded in 1920 and headquartered in Dayton, Ohio by Everett Larsh.

The company built electric motors, electric gear-motors, motor controls and motor brakes. They supplied private industry as well as the U.S. government.

In 1958 the company merged with Reliance Electric Company Reliance Electric Company of Cleveland, Ohio. Master's headquarters and plant in Dayton were closed in 1961 and moved to Columbus, Indiana.

Reliance bought ... Master [Electric AC Motors] in 1963 and [the Master Electric Company] ceased to exist.

... In 1982, Reliance moved its headquarters to Greenville, South Carolina... [and] was purchased by Rockwell International in December 1994, ... acquired in turn by the Baldor Electric Company 2007. - retrieved 2017/10/14, original source: vintagemachinery.org/ mfgindex/detail.aspx?id=3320

[Use the page top or bottom CONTACT link to send me photos of the motor and its data tag and I can comment further].

On 2017-10-14 by Victor

I have a very old Masters AC single phase 3hp motor that will run on 115v or 230v each hooked up the same way.

The motor runs clockwise and there is no indication on the tag if it can run CCW

The is only 4 wires coming out of the motor Black, Gray, Yellow, Red.

Yellow and Red are tied together for both 115v and 230v. while Black and Gray are hooked up to the power source along with a Green wire that is secured to a screw and does not come out from the inside of the motor.

Question is Can I swap either black or gray with either yellow or red to have the motor run CCW?

This is on the tag and I can't seem to find any information about this motor Thanks in advance.

How to reverse direction of a Master Electric 115V / 230V electric motor

On 2017-10-14 by (mod) - reverse direction of a Master Electric 115V / 230V electric motor?

Victor,

An electric motor will not normally run on either 115V or 230V "hooked up the same way" - so we are missing something here. I suspect you have an older motor that achieves 230V operation by wiring two individual 115V windings in series or in parallel to swap between.

Your motor is probably from the Master Electric Co., in Dayton OH and would have been made before 1963.

Our illustrations of Master Electric Motors, Master Electric Motor Data Tags, and Reliance Electric Duty Master A-C Motor data tags shown here may be for different motor models than yours but they will provide examples for other readers.

Shown above: a Master Electric Company (Dayton OH USA) electric motor ca 1960. This motor can be wired to run on 115VAC or 130 VAC single phase current, as you can just make out on its data tag given below.

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Is the Run Direction Reversible on this Electric Motor?

Here's the first thing to check: how many wires are coming off of the motor windings?

4 wires off of the windings means you can probably swap motor direction.

3 wires off of the windings means you cannot swap motor direction since 1 of those 3 is feeding both start and run windings.

Modern electric motors with more-current data tags will tell you right on the data tag that the motor run direction is reversible or not.

For example a non-reversible motor data tag might include this text: MOTOR IS NON-REVERSIBLE, CCW ROTATION SHAFT END.

For a motor that IS reversible a modern tag will usually give specific directions for reversing its direction, (usually swapping red and black wires) such as these examples (Warning: your motor will probably be different)

Separate start/run windings on electric motors

But on a 3hp motor it's probably not quite that simple. Your motor may have both a start winding and a separate "run" winding.

The winding with the smaller gauge or "thinner" wire will be the Start winding and that winding will be electrically in series with the start or S terminal on the motor's start/run capacitor or will be connected to a separate starting capacitor on motors that use two separate caps.

How to Identify the Start & Run Windings on an Electric Motor

You can also identify the start winding and run winding wires by measuring the resistance of that circuit.

The start winding will always have a much higher resistance (typically about 6 Ohms on small motors, or about 3x the run winding) than the run winding (typically about 1.5 Ohms on small motors) when measured using a VOM or DMM in the OHMS or Resistance setting.

Keep in mind that you cannot properly measure a coil winding resistance unless the wire ends are disconnected from the rest of the motor wiring.

On that motor type a centrifugal switch opens or turns "off" the start winding current once the motor is up to speed.

I would prefer not to try swapping the direction of a motor using a start winding before you find the actual wiring diagram (or figure it out) for the specific motor. But generally what you'd do is swap directions of the wires bringing current to the start winding.

While I have not (yet) found the exact wiring diagram for your motor,

here INSTALLATION, OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF RELIANCE® STANDARD INDUSTRIAL AC INDUCTION MOTORS - PDF is a book of wiring diagrams for the same series of motors when produced later under Baldor - as I'll explain in a historical note below.

 




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2023/04/12 Restoration & Use of a Vintage Master Electric Motor

Vintage Master Electric Co. electric motor with right-angle gear drive, reversible direction (C) InspectApedia.com Harvey

I have read on your site a very interesting thread about electric motor rotation, and amongst the responses was mention of and a picture of an old Master electric motor.

I have one of those in my hands, a Master gearhead motor, and I'm looking for maintenance and general usage information.

It is of unknown age and source; it is mounted with a 30:1 reduction box, which I have yet to open, but spins freely.

It has a lever outside, which allows to change its rotation direction at startup. Once spinning, moving the lever does nothing.

I'd like to know how best to care for this unit; What kind of electric motor is it? I'm reading it could be a Repulsion-start induction-run motor. What tests should be run to check the health of such motor? What lubricant and how much should be used in the gearbox?

Can the output shaft be positioned in all directions (the casting is made as to position the output shaft horizontally ; can it be run vertically?)

The nameplate says it's a style 233199, with a 1/4hp 1725 rpm motor with a shaft speed of 58 rpm.

I am attaching a picture of the motor nameplate and the unit. Thanks in advance, Simon-Pierre Harvey  by private email Apr 12, 2023

Moderator Reply: notes on your antique Master Electric Co. Motor & Gear Drive

Vintage Master Electric Co. electric motor with right-angle gear drive, reversible direction (C) InspectApedia.com Harvey

Thank you again for the wonderful photos of your vintage Master Electric Gear Motor - right-angle drive, and for the questions.

In addition to our own photos and notes on the History of Master Electric Motors (now promoted to its very on page found here), I did some easy additional research for both the Master Electric Co., Dayton OH, and also for that interesting right-angle driven gear and shaft on your motor.,

About what kind of motor it is and how it was designed to start and run, I don't know enough to tell that simply by looking at the motor's exterior.  That manual motor rotation direction control is charming; on dis-assembly of the motor for maintenance we'll be grateful to see photos of its operation, presumably swapping a couple of electrical connections as we discuss

at ELECTRIC MOTOR RUN DIRECTION.

The serial number starting with DW and the type RA and the style number almost certainly will be decoded in an antique motor catalog if we can find one for these motors. 

Vintage Master Electric Co. electric motor with right-angle gear drive, reversible direction (C) InspectApedia.com Harvey

About running the shaft vertically, I don't know, but look at the existing hardware. It's quite plain that the gear and motor were intended to be run in the position of your photo - since there is a supporting foot with bolt-hole below the gear box.

Depending on gear box design and lubricant, there's often a ventilation opening that might leak lubricant if you flipped the motor over to try to run the shaft pointing up or down. 

In addition to inspection of condition of the motor's electrical components, windings, internal wires, any controls, you'd of course also disassemble and inspect the motor shaft bearings at both ends.

Those may be salvageable - or not. 

For gearbox lubricant, I'd look at the right-angle gear drive example PDF I give immediately below.

For motor lubricants,

see ELECTRIC MOTOR LUBRICATION

A motor restorer would typically tear the whole motor down, test the windings for continuity IF the windings looked usable - too often on a very old motor the wire insulation may be deteriorated enough that trying to power it up shorts out immediately.

Watch out: I would not even consider powering up something like that without considerable inspection and probably repair and cleaning, maybe even re-winding. The risk is that if you simply plug it in an internal short can burn up components, converting a restorable vintage electric motor to a melted and dangerous pile of slag. 

You'll find this

COPELAND ELECTRICAL HANDBOOK [PDF] a helpful reference.

Interesting, aside from the electric motor itself, probably dating from the 1950s or earlier, the problem of driving a right-angle gear has been widely addressed including by this nice coincidence

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that describes

For people interested in vintage machinery, Scott Adamietz at vintagemachinery.org has provided a tiny history at this page

vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/detail.aspx?id=3320&tab=0#:~:text=The%20Master%20Electric%20Company%20was,merged%20with%20Reliance%20Electric%20Co.

Quoting, that entry adds a few details to our own history of the Master Electric Company above on this page.  

The Master Electric Company was founded in 1920 and headquartered in Dayton, Ohio by Everett Larsh. The company built electric motors, electric gear-motors, motor controls and motor brakes. They supplied private industry as well as the U.S. government.

In 1958 the company merged with Reliance Electric Co. of Cleveland, Ohio. Master's headquarters and plant in Dayton were closed in 1961 and moved to Columbus, Indiana.

In 1967, Reliance purchased the Dodge Manufacturing Company of Indiana, a manufacturer of power transmission systems. The Columbus plant remained open, but a new plant was opened in Madison, Indiana and renamed Master Gearing.

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You might want to contribute photos of your own antique Master Electric Company electric motor to the vintage machinery people at vintagemachinery.org - a website for people who enjoy using and/or restoring vintage machinery.

And you might get some help from those experts in restoring the antique motor in your photos. 

Reader Follow-up: This Master Electric Co. motor design permits pointing the driven shaft in any direction!

I've also figured how to use this unit with the shaft pointing in any direction; there is 4 different lubrication access holes in the gearbox, 3 with standard taper plugs and one is a brass 2-part vented plug.

Depending on the shaft direction, the upward facing hole receives the brass plug, the lowest one becomes the drain, and one more will be laying horizontally just below centerline, in a manner as to act as an oil level-indicator, which you plug back once oil stops pouring during fill-up.

I'll share those with the fine people of VintageMachinery as well. - SP Harvey 2023/-4/21

Master Gearhead motor details, features, data tag (C) InspectApedia.com SP Harvey ... Master Gearhead motor details, features, data tag (C) InspectApedia.com SP Harvey

Here [Above and Below - Ed] are some better pictures of the Master Gearhead motor.

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I've painted in green the four gearbox plugs; it's easier to see how they are distributed to that the motor can be mounted in any direction.

Master Gearhead motor details, features, data tag (C) InspectApedia.com SP Harvey ... Master Gearhead motor details, features, data tag (C) InspectApedia.com SP Harvey

The output shaft is 0.750" (3/4"). The tall lever that has a spring and cotter pin controls the motor rotation direction; start the motor with the lever up, and it spins clockwise.

Master Gearhead motor details, features, data tag (C) InspectApedia.com SP Harvey ... Master Gearhead motor details, features, data tag (C) InspectApedia.com SP Harvey

Start the motor with it down and it spins counterclockwise. Moving the lever while the motor is spinning does nothing.

Attempting to start the motor with the lever not quite all the way up or down results in just buzzing, like the motor is stalled; from some reading I think this means this would be a repulsion-start induction-run motor. - SPH, May 14, 2023

Master Gearhead motor details, features, data tag (C) InspectApedia.com SP Harvey


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