Moffat electric range & oven repair:
Moffit electric range repairs discussed here include a question about use of asbestos insulation in a 1950's Moffat electric range and oven, repairs to a broken Moffat oven door, and wiring diagrams for the Moffat electric range.
Do Moffatt stoves contain asbestos? If so, where?
Page top photo: a 1958 Moffat electric range and oven combination still in use. Repairs to Moffat electric ranges are discussed here.
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The original designer of Moffat stoves, Thomas MOffat, was a Scot, born in Glasgow, whose family migrated to Owen Sound, Canada in the 1880's.
The Thomas L. Moffat stove company was a Canadian firm, with (foundry?) locations in Markdale, in Grey County, in Weston Ontario, in Winnipeg, and in Calgary for which I've found that a Moffat stove was shown at the Canadian 1905 exposition.
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I've found Moffat stove ads from 1909.
Those early stoves used a fire-brick combustion chamber liner and the stove indeed included asbestos components - heat guards that are discussed in early ads - probably cement-asbestos material.
If you're in Canada it might be easier to find more about the 1950's version of these stoves.
This website has a collection of Moffat stoves - http://www.kijiji.ca/b-ontario/antique-moffat/k0l9004 but offers no help about asbestos, parts, repairs.
Readers asking for dating the age of their Moffat stove or help with parts and repairs are invited to send me a photo of the stove exterior and of any data tags.
That might help with research. Use the page to or bottom CONTACT link.
Photos below: a Moffat stove photographed by an Inspectapedia.com reader who asks for an accurate date of its manufacture.
Above: a 1907 Moffat stove, courtesy of InspectApedia reader Gage.
We estimate that the stove shown below, courtesy of reader Collin, was made before 1920, probably manufactured in 1911.
Contact us if you have more information about this stove.
As you see from the data tag below, this Moffat stove, Style E.28, bears a serial number of 1102 68;
harder to read on the tag is the information that the stove required 200 Volts and a 27-amp circuit.
The 1911 Moffat 2-plate electric stove data tag photo below is provided by our reader Collin.
We're only guessing but from the general appearance of this Moffat electric stove and the data tag serial number, its's possible this stove was produced in 1911. Readers familiar with dating older Moffat stoves are invited to comment at the end of this page.
The 1920's Moffat gas stove photo above was provided by our reader John.
Below this Moffat Stove Style E 30 F, Serial number 60555 is probably from the late 1920s.
The Moffat gas range above is provided by our New Zealand reader Natusch.
Above: A Moffat stove from circa 1927
Location: Tasmania , Australia and the manufacturer's tag says "Made in Canada"
MOFFATS LIMITED, HED 507, Style E-37K, Serial 117746, 240 V / 31 A"
This Moffat stove has 3 electric burners, two 8-inch and one smaler.
We found a nearly identical stove indicating it's a 1930's model at www.varagesale.com/i/7x2rw6gw-moffat-1930-s-porcelain-stove
Below is vgaragesale's photo of their 1930's moffat, published here in case their page disappears
Above 1934 Moffat stove photo courtesy of reader Dan.
Below a vintage 1936 Moffat electric stove-oven combination for sale in Canada
Below: A Moffat Free-standing electric stove made by Metters KFB Pty. Ltd. in Footscray, Victoria, circa 1937, displayed by Museums Victoria Collections, retrieved 2021/12/17 original source: https://collections.museumsvictoria.com.au/items/401004
Museums Victoria provides an interesting and detailed history of this specific 1937 Moffat stove, recommended reading at the link we provided just above where the Museum also offers additional photos of this appliance.
Shown here courtesy of reader Thomas is a 1939 or 1940 Moffat electric stove that is very close to the model 924. We think that those solid burners are newer than the original appliance.
Our reader Eric dated this Moffat stove to the 1940s. Notice that except for its control knobs, it's nearly identical to the 1952 Moffat range shown below.
The circled switch on this 1949 Moffat electric stove is for the warming oven. Photo by Marcel.
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Above courtesy of reader MarcelV
Above our photo of a 1950's Moffat Maitre D electric range / oven is courtesy of Siddarth.
Above photo courtesy of reader Susan.
Below: this 1950s electric Moffat range/oven photo is provided by reader Shilka.
Above: courtesy of reader Lyn
The 1952 Moffat electric range/oven above is provided courtesy of InspectApedia reader Eric.
Above: a 1953 Moffat electric range/oven, photo by Clive Tucker
Above a 1953 Moffat courtesy of Susan.
Below: a 1953 Moffat Electric Range/Oven Controls a link to the Wiring Diagram for this Moffat.
This MOFFAT STOVE WIRING DIAGRAM [Image] from a 1950's Moffat clearly shows the oven light and the controlling switch.
Above a 1954 Moffat electric range, courtesy of reader Glavich.
Shown below this 1954 14.5 KW Moffat range is from Melanie.
Below is the data tag for this 1954 Moffat.
Above: a 1956 Moffat electric range, courtesy of reader Jamie.
Photo from Michelle.
The 1959 Moffat Fiesta Oven/Range included a rotissary, a top oven with a lazy susan and slide out burners.
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This stove appears to have been manufactured in week 4 (or month 4) of 1959.
Photo above of a 1960 Moffat electric range/oven is by our reader Debra.
This 1961 Moffat stove photo is by our reader Corinna
This 1962 Moffat stove photo is provided courtesy of InspectApedia reader Richard. This stove's data tag is shown below.
The 1964 Moffat Model 30 k 260 has a upper broiler and rotisserie.
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The Moffat electric stove (not the cat) is probably from the mid 1960s to early 1970s - Ed.
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The 1978 Moffat stove shown above is provided courtesy of our reader Josh.
The 1980 Electric Range/Oven above is provided by our reader Dorothy R.
Above are listed the Moffat Electric Range patents in Australia, Canada, Great Britain, the United States, New Zealand, South Africa.
Researching these specific patent applications can provide details about the Moffat range design, materials, used, presence of asbestos and other information.
Shown below, a Moffat Vintage Gourmet Stove sticker listing patents whose numbers can set bounds on the age of this particular stove.
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An InspectApedia reader asked:
Is there asbestos in the oven insulation of a 1958 Moffat stove model 30D25 (made in Weston, Ontario)?
Can you tell me if this insulation, in a Moffat 1958 kitchen stove model 30D25 contains asbestos? Anonymous, 2016/05/12 by private email
Asbestos was used as insulation in some stoves and other home appliances as well and asbestos is specifically cited in advertising for earlier model Moffat stoves from 1909 but I did not find asbestos specifically described for the 1958 Moffat kitchen stove.
While a lab test would be needed for an authoritative answer, and begging off as well that I can only see what's in your photos - that may not address all areas or components of the stove, what I see in your photos looks like (and almost certainly is) white or light-coloured fiberglass insulation.
See the Moffat range insulation photos above and below in this article series.
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The chrome ring and drip pan are rusted in my 1962 Moffat stove. Where can I find replacement parts? Thank you very much for your help. On 2022-01-17 by Richard
by Inspectapedia Com Moderator
@Richard,
Measure the diameter of those two parts.
You'll find that there are generic replacements widely available at appliance parts stores and even from online vendors.
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Where to find missing control knobs for Moffat electric range
My stove has the wrong handles on it as they were missing when I got it.
I have a 1939 or 40 Moffat electric stove that is very close to the model 924, is there a place that I could find pictures and information about the models from this vintage?
The handles are the same as the stove in the Moffat advertisement shown below.
On 2021-01-19 by Thomas
by (mod) -
Thomas, thank you for the question and photos of Your Moffat electric range.
Sorry, but we cannot provide Moffat control knobs that you asked about. We do not sell anything. No products, no services.
I have seen online vendors in many forums, eBay, Etsy, TubeDepot, Amazon, and Vatican, as well as independent antique appliance manufacturers who offer parts for older Moffat stoves. I'd search for "buy control knobs for antique Moffat stove"
I've had success in finding older range or stove parts by entering a detailed accurate description on these sites and then waiting - sometimes for a year or more - for the exact parts to show up for sale.
However, if the controls you have are workable and clean and in good condition, they may be better than you'll find without a long wait.
Shown above is an example of such controls listed at Etsy.
The example I show below is a Sears Range Surface Element Knob (White) 8523215 replacement sold by Sears Parts Direct https://www.searspartsdirect.com/
You'll want to examine the shape of the shaft behind the Moffat control knob - usually a rounded shaft with one-side flattened to form a "D" shape, and then to measure its diameter before you waste time buying too many replacement Moffat knobs that don't fit.
Some range control replacement knobs include a bushing or adapter sleeve that can help fit the replacement.
Shown below is a replacement Sears electric range control knob.
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I just pick this up. Works good but need 1 door handle and would like 2 of the original style "fat" burners. Also any specifics like year and information
On 2022-09-29 by Ray Boyd
by InspectApedia (mod)
@Ray Boyd,
Best guess based on the serial number would be week 30 of 1942 although this doesn't follow the typical decoding sequence. See more about decoding age at
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Looking for an owners manual and door handle for our 1951 Moffat stove. Just purchased it 2 weeks ago and have lots of questions. Thanks ! On 2022-10-10 by Lyn
by InspectApedia (Editor) - 1950s Moffat stove manual & Door Handles
@Lyn,
We have a 1950s Moffat stove manual that we're in process of scanning to make available free to the public, but are traveling out of our lab at the moment, so it'll be a month or so before it's available free on this web page. (come back after Thanksgiving).
You can buy some replacement parts that will work on Moffat electric stoves and ovens such as burners and controls, fromChromalox https://www.chromalox.com/
Watch out: though in my OPINION their website is a bit obnoxious as it insists on slamming unwanted cookies onto my computer. Chromalox parts are also sold on eBay and at other online vendors.
That's a nice-looking 1951 Moffat electric stove - I'd like to see a photo of its data tags - look around the oven door threshold.
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Hi! I have a (I think) 1956 Moffat electric stove, 2 doors. Recently, the spring holding the small door broke.
My question is how do I get to the spring?
Once I get to it, I'll manage to find some other spring to replace it.
Thank you for your help!
On 2022-01-07 by Thomas
Reply by Inspectapedia Com Moderator
@Thomas,
The door hinge spring is found nside the chassis for the appliance and hard to see. Have you tried pulling out the lowest drawer and looking from underneath? Check there before we proceed with further disassembly.UK Whitegoods also sells many other stove and oven parts such as racks, burners, oven door hinges etc. IN the UK, contact
UK Whitegoods Limited
Unit 5/6 Bonnyton Industrial Estate
Munro Place
Kilmarnock
KA1 2NP UK
Tel: 01563 557156
Email: spares@ukwhitegoods.co.uk
shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/moffat-oven-thermostatsby Thomas
@Inspectapedia Com Moderator, a few screws are visible from underneath, in the bottom drawer. Here's a picture.
Thank you for your help!
by Inspectapedia Com Moderator - Try a "universal" oven door spring / hinge replacement - instructions are given here
@Thomas,
I suspect that those are holding part of the oven door hinge assembly for the door above, but honestly I'm unsure.
Can we also get a look at the sides and floor of the oven compartment whose door spring we'd like to re-connect or replace?
Typically the oven door hinge includes a flat steel slider that inserts into the oven door itself. The door is opened part way and un-clipped from the spring assembly and pulled off;
That may expose bolts or screws that permit access to the hinge and spring assembly.
Take care to put the hinge bars into the "closed" position before trying to open the hinge assembly as you want minimum tension on the spring.
If the oven door spring is broken, measure its proper length including the hooks at both ends: almost certainly you can find an after-market oven door spring replacement that will fit.
Shown here s a "universal" oven door spring replacement assembly sold on eBay. This image may help you recognize its equivalent on your Moffat oven.
These instructions should be helpful:
OVEN DOOR SPRING REPLACEMENT INSTRUCTIONS [PDF] REPA Spare Parts Group, Germany (Head Office):GEV GROSSKÜCHEN-ERSATZTEIL-VERTRIEB GMB Gadastr. 4 85232 Bergkirchen Tel.: +49 8142 6522-50 order.ger@repagroup.com - retrieved 2022/01/11 original source: https://www.gevonline.de/resources/Artikelinfo/NzAxNjgyX0Fzc0luc183NjE1Nl9FTlVfX1dTRlJFSQ==.pdfaliav
The stove is indeed a tough old girl: I've been a professional chocolatier for 25 years with this stove as my steady workhorse.
I owe her my career and surely that can include a repair now and then. I'll check out the options you have suggested. Thank you so much--I'll let you know how it goes.
Brook
p.s. What do you think about my buying some Frigidaire stove insulation and using it? Exactly what do you mean by "in place in the stove body?"
The original insulation appears to be jammed behind the firebox. I was planning on filling the side panels with a sheet of insulation on each side - and found some Frigidaire "official replacement part" insulation approx. the same size as the sides.
That sounded like an improvement over the Roxul that I used a few years ago in the side panels.
It is definitely a 30" beauty, and it was precisely BECAUSE the door didn't close tightly with that broken hinge that I used the Roxul in the first place. THIS time I'd like to repair it correctly.
Reply: Repairs to a Moffat electric range oven door hinges: Moffat Stove Parts Suppliers
I would not try a makeshift door repair as if it doesn't close properly you'll have ugly and even possibly unsafe leakage (a fire hazard) when using the oven.
If you search on 1950's Moffat Stove you 'll find several enthusiasts who've posted kudos and photos.
Pick up those emails and ask if they'd help you with the hinges with some photos of the door in open, closed, position, the removal and re-installation procedure, photos of the door hinge parts with door removed and installed;
- Moffats are still sold in Canada: see http://www.moffatappliances.ca/jsp/ge_Listing.jsp?product_id=6
You might also find an appliance junkyard that has the necessary hinges but you'll need to match the stove model accurately.
As your WIRING DIAGRAM is for models 30 D 25 and 24 D 25 (and the first number is probably stove width) yours is probably a 30-inch Moffit Model D25 from 1958.
Check out these Moffat Oven Door Hinges from PartsTown
or if that link doesn't work for you search their website for Moffat D25 Hinge and they also claim to have manuals that may show the hinge details
Below: a Moffat Bake-Master Oven Door Cooking Chart from this oven.
I have a 1956 Moffat 40" range. Does anyone have a lead to replacement hinges? Mine are shot on the main oven door.
Maybe you're sitting on a parts machine as well and would be willing to sell/ship the hinges? Or you know of one? Any ideas are appreciated! (pic of my range attached)
On 2024-01-08 by Jamie -
by InspectApedia Publisher (mod) - need to find 1956 Moffat range replacement hinges
@Jamie,
I've had poor luck finding original or OEM mechanical parts and switches for antique Moffat ranges like your nice 1956 unit, though some online vendors say they have some parts such as generic burner replacements or alternative control switches.
On occasion I've simply added-on simple hardware store hinges of an appropriate size, using a shim if needed so that the oven door closes neatly and completely.
But what I would prefer when we can't find an OEM Moffat oven door hinge is remove the broken oven door hinges and take them to a local metalworking shop to see how close they can come to fabricating a replacement.That's a more expensive hinge than one found at your hardware store, but much less than the cost of buying a replacement range and giving up on keeping your 1950's Moffat range working.
There is a long history of this approach in the antique car restoration world, so it's not a new idea.
Can you post a closeup of the broken hinges?On 2024-01-09 by Jamie
@InspectApedia Publisher, Here is a picture. Essentially what happened is the pin in the hinge broke (likely) decades ago. Previous owner of the house replaced with a nut and bolt.
The trouble is the hole in the hinge has been worn and elongated to the point where the door no longer lines up with the opening and rubs on the drawer below.
My temporary fix was to cut a 3/32" slice of bolt to use as a shim in the elongated hole, to align the door, and a new bolt with a large washer to keep the shim in place.
It is working for now but I know it is just a matter of time before the threads on my bolt make the hole wider again.
I agree, the ultimate fix would be to have a metal fabricator weld the hole full, make a new hole, and a proper pin with the new nut and bolt, and large washer holding in place.
by InspectApedia DF (mod) - Moffat range oven door hinge and the makeshift repair
@Anonymous,
Thank you - those are very helpful photos of the Moffat range oven door hinge and the makeshift repair.
Because the oven door hinge parts are basically flat steel I suspect that if you could remove the hinges entirely and bring them to a metalworking shop it would be very easy to fabricate replacements with the center hole drilled to the proper size - avoiding the worn, oversized hole problem.
I've done exactly that as a DIY project on other mechanical systems; we cut a bit of strap steel of the proper thickness to the necessary rectangular size, then used a grinder and belt sander to shape the hinge, then carefully drilled the right sized holes to convert it into a hinge.
Probably the most work is in removing the door without other damage.At OVEN DOOR REPAIR / REPLACE Jenn-Air
you'll see that breaking the door glass is a worse snafu and one that's more dangerous too. So take care when handling the door.
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I think our stove is a 1952 Moffat which is still in use in our home.
At least 2 of the burners are not working to full power seems only half the ring is heating. Do you know where replacement rings can be purchased or repaired?
On 2023-01-14 by Eric K
by InspectApedia Publisher - 1952 Moffat burner replacements
@Eric K,
Those burners use two, sometimes more, concentric spirals of burner elements to provide various levels of heat. So if one of those burns out or its wire connection fails the burner loses some of its heat-range.
Before replacing burners, your appliance repair person (or you if you're experienced and know how to do safe electrical work safely) would first check the connections to the burners and the wires between burner and control.
Some of our readers have re-built older Moffat electric stove burners by finding a generic element to install - of the proper diameter.
A simple search for "replacement electric stove element" will turn up a variety of products, some of which might fit.
On 2021-11-24 by Kristian asked: Any leads on a replacement burner for a Moffat 30L260w shown here?
by Inspectapedia Com Moderator (mod) - replacement burner for a Moffat 30L260w?
@Kristian,
Take a look at the list of parts suppliers on this page, the home page for this topic:
MOFFAT STOVE ELECTRIC BURNER REPLACEMENTI wanted to add that for electric burners on a Moffat, if you take the old burner to any appliance repair parts supplier, or even simply measure it and shop online, you'll probably find a generic electric range burner that will fit.
by Kristian
@Inspectapedia Com Moderator, thanks! I’ll keep looking. The ends don’t seem to be compatible with the more generic pigtail style you see now commonly. Haven’t been able to find anything online resembling it actually.
by Inspectapedia Com Moderator (mod) - how to find a replacement burner for a Moffat electric range
@Kristian,
Thank you for that added detail, you're absolutely right. That Moffat electric range burner connector is not the usual flat-spade type plug-in used on most electric ranges.
If we can't find a Moffat OEM connector burner, I'd consider replacing the receiving female connector in the Moffat range top to allow it to accept a generic replacement. An example we show below is made by ApplianceMate, is generic, and involves simple wiring that can be installed by any electrician or appliance repairman or homeowner who is familiar with safe electrical wiring practices.
I'll also look to see if we can find some other sources for you.
Can you help identify their cooker please.
Bought in 1980, when it was 6months-1 year old, and lost the manual and so Model No…yes, we’ve looked all over for it.
It was on the back but several moves later it’s missing!
Basically it works well, but one hob ring is defunct and the other three are slow to heat.
We think we can still buy new elements but need the model number to do so. Would be really grateful for any help. On 2023-04-03 by Dorothy R
by InspectApedia Editor - Burner Parts for Moffat Electric Cooker American With Roastmaster Rotisserie - 1970s or 1980's Models
@Dorothy R,
Sure, that looks like a an older model of a late 1970s or early 1980's (*manufacture date, not purchase date) THBMEC01A MOFFAT ELECTRIC COOKER AMERICAN WITH ROASTMASTER ROTISSERIE - THBMEC01A (or similar model) Moffat Electric cooker American with Roastmaster Rotisserieby Dorothy R
@InspectApedia Editor , Thank you so much for your help. So if I quote THBMEC01A as the Model No. I should be able to buy elements/parts?
Is there an Operating Manual or Wiring diagram for this Model?
by InspectApedia Editor
@Dorothy R,
Below is just one example of a 7-inch electric burner element that will fit many stoves.
Just what parts you can find for a 1980's Moffat Oven/Range combo will vary depending on what part you need.
We see some vendors stocking some old parts, and there are some generic replacement parts that work on many electric ranges as well as some generic electric oven burner elements.
Matching a control knob exactly or replacing a clock will be more-difficult.
About your "slow-heating" hob rings, check and clean the electrical connections (with power OFF of course).
About the hob ring that does not work at all, look for a generic replacement of the right diameter. Often the actual electrical connectors on the replacement ring work, else you might have to change the connector in the range top as well.
You don't need the model number of an electric range to buy replacement rangetop elements, just the diameter and type - or number of connectors (two or four). While many such replacement parts are sold as replacing "GE" or "Whirlpool", others are sold as "generic" or "replacing hundreds of element models" - so principally you look at the diameter and the number of connectors and match that to your existing Moffat cooker.
by InspectApedia Editor - Wiring diagrams were often glued to the back of the Moffat
@Dorothy R,
Manuals for older Moffat cookers, ranges, ovens, are generally hard to find; we've bought whatever older Moffat manuals we could find and then have re-published them as free PDF downloads given on the page above.Fortunately the wiring and operation of electric cook stoves, ranges, ovens, is fairly straight-forward so that often an experienced appliance repair person can diagnose and fix common problems such as a bad electrical wire, connector, or temperature sensor.
We'll continue to look for a manual for your specific THBMEC01A MOFFAT cooker but to date haven't found one.
It would help if you'd look carefully along the frame of the oven as well as elsewhere for model data tags. Often there is a metal tag riveted to the oven frame side - not just stickers on the back.
Wiring diagrams were often glued to the back of the Moffat.by Dorothy R
@InspectApedia Editor , Thanks again for your helpful hints and suggestions. So if we can find an electrician to take the ceramic top off, he should be able see which elements would do the job. That’s the problem initially, finding such a person! We will look again for a tag, but did look fairly thoroughly before. If you can find a suitable Manual that would be great.
by InspectApedia Editor
@Dorothy R,
I think you want to look for an "appliance repair technician" not an electrician (though perhaps some of those folks may be willing to work on an appliance they usually install home electrical and circuits),
then when you find people advertising that they repair home appliances, ask specifically if the person is experienced with electric range and stove top repair.
Keep us posted - what you find will help others.
Hello! I have an old electric Moffat stove that was bought in 1978 (photo attached) and the bottom bake element has recently broke. I can’t find the specs for the bake element to replace it and wondering what the wattage might be to properly replace it.
What I do know:
model number - MSS 6058 W-1-S1 (style B11)
KW - 60 Hz
120/240 V
The broil element is labelled at 3300 watts
I’d love to keep using this oven as it’s worked so well for us over the years. I called GE parts and their database only goes back 20 years. I found an element that is very close in sizing at 240v but the wattage is 3000. I want to make sure I’m not using a higher wattage than the bake element is meant for.
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance! 2023-06-14 by Josh
by InspectApedia Publisher -
@Josh,
That's a great question, thank you. 3000 W would be a typical wattage for a generic replacement element.All that you will need to do is match the terminal connections and find one that fits approximately in the same space.
by Josh
@Josh,
@InspectApedia Publisher, Thanks for getting back to me! I was able to track down the original part number for the bake element: WG02F05410.I called Reliableparts [dot] ca and they said there's an aftermarket model that has the same size/specs: UB963
Turns out is is 3000 watts. Hopefully this helps somebody else someday!
Thanks
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Becky Shilka said:
My hubby forgot to take photos of wiring before dismantling the hotplate of our 1950's moffat..how do we rewire if?
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Becky
Watch out: I am scared to answer pretending I know for sure because of the possibility that you get killed or set the house on fire. Is hubby familiar with safe and proper electrical wiring? If not, bail and get help.
That warning issued,
If at all possible, find a wiring diagram for your stove. Often it's glued to the back of the appliance and occasionally to the underside of a panel. That would tell us for sure what the manufacturer intended.
We've also got some wiring diagrams for Moffat stoves on the page above but those could differ from your specific model. In the wiring diagram it's pretty easy to follow the wires from the power hook-up for the electric range to the individual controls and burners.
Below I've labelled your photo with a reasonable guess at the wiring connections. Notice that the center terminal itself has two wires running to it? That's probably the neutral side of each of two burner circuits.
When just one circuit is energized the burner is in low-heat range, when both are energized the burner is in high heat range. Some electric range burners use a smaller inner-ring for low heat, a larger outer ring for medium heat, and both rings for high heat. But your Moffat range may differ.
I THOUGHT from what I THINK I see i the photo, you have the wires shown in my photo BUT NO:
Watch out: later information from the reader indicates that the wiring in this photo is NOT CORRECT.
So burners might offer ranges of heat using 1, 2, or 3 switch configurations.
From the observation that there are 2 bare wires in the connector center screw that's probably the neutral (white) and the black or red connect to the other two terminals.
Watch out:Hubby ought to know how to use a VOM or DMM to test the leads to see what is being delivered.
He might want to see DMMs VOMs SAFE USE OF
Becky Shilka said:
Lol - that was brilliant - and no fear.he's a capable fella for sure - just cautious.
The pic shows how they should look..
The confusion was the yellow wire that changes depending on one of the five positions of the temperature control knob.
Thanks for reply
P.s..house is still standing!
I sit corrected. Thank you, this Moffat wiring detail will be helpful to other readers.
I've searched high and low but can only locate 2 places where information is printed, each time on aging paper: the one larger sheet with the Moffat's Ltd wiring diagram
Moffatt Electric Stove phase-3 wire model 30D25 24D25 Wiring Diagram Aug 25-58 drawn by Fowler drawing no c31782
The other one listing the patents and that was manufactured in Weston, Ontario.
Between the oven door and the oven drawer was the plate with model and serial number: Model 30D25. Serial number: 650259, Weston Ontario. What other specs are you looking for?
I hope that is helpful. Sorry about the crappy photos. I can send another one (hopefully NOT crappy) of the entire stove once we reattach side panels and front door.
And thanks for even considering the hinge mechanism. I might ask another owner/seller about that, but since you have to remove the side panel I think it unlikely that anyone will be willing to do that in order to help.
I came across your site when searching Moffat stove restoration/repairs on-line.
We have an original 1954 Moffat stove that have been in our family forever. My mother still uses it and it just started having problem now.
We replaced the bulbs, check for a short in the wiring, placed electrical tape on all touching wires to make sure there was no over current etc..
Asking for help to find someone on the electrical or even restoring the stove back to bring the light back on and clock working. Cannot find a electrical diagram. The burners have 3,4 and 5 wires.
Stove is in Hamilton, On. Canada. Can you provide any support or direction?
Thank you in advance! - Anonymous by private email 2018/06/27
Although the "date" field of the Moffats Limited (Weston Ontario) electric stove data tag is blank, we can see that the stove appears to have been manufactured in week 4 (or month 4) of 1959.
The Moffats Limited stove model number given here is 314453T.
We are posting the reader's Moffats Stove photos here to invite comments or suggestions for electrical repairs to this appliance.
We provide free copies of Moffats electric oven & stove WIRING DIAGRAMS and other documents in this article.
When an electric stove burner has multiple wire connections usually those permit the burner control to activate more than one coil within an electric burner, thus providing multiple heat range settings.
An electrical appliance repair person will first check that the wiring and connections are sound - or replace them, then check that the control knob is working to connect each circuit when required.
These are very basic electrical repairs. However if the control knob itself has burned or damaged contacts it might not be field repairable and a replacement, though required, could be difficult to find.
In that case I would leave disconnected and removed any wires to control settings that do not work.
Watch out: do not try working on an electrical appliance if you are not trained to do so. Making a mistake could cause a fire, injury, or worse.
@Richard,
On the typical Robertshaw control
(the unit you show below) L1 and L2 are the line voltage input terminals on all of these controls.
Illustration: Universal Oven & Range Burner Control sold at appliance repair part outlets.
Terminals 1,2,3,4 are individual burner terminals that, as I understand it, are in essence interchangeable. But that control appears to be designed for electric stove elements that only use a single burner coil or heating element.
Your stove burners had two heat ranges which explains why each burner has 3 rather than 2 terminals - a common neutral and two separate supply voltage wires. At your burners, by your wiring diagram
Yellow wire brings power to the inner coil on the burner - T1 on the control
Black wire brings power to the outer coil on the burner (the two are intertwined) - T2 on the control
Red is the common wire that went to T3 on the original burner control switch
You may need to replace that Robertshaw RAC-12-201-48 thermostat control (your photo is shown later, below) with a Universal ER6700S0011 Range Oven Control Thermostat Kit - sold by several vendors for about $150 and shown above.
I should say, or a similar model - note that typically one of the wires runs the oven upper heating element and the other the lower or bottom heating element.
Below is an example wiring detail for the Universal Range/Oven Controller we cited above:
You might contact Robertshaw directly to ask what replaces your older oven control most-easily:
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Thank you so much; I'll add all of these photos to a 1960s Moffat section in the article above.
If you want to be identified as a contributor let me know by email (page bottom CONTACT link)
On 2021-12-20 by Richard - Photo of 1962 Moffat Electric Stove
This is a photo of a 1962's Moffat stove looks like - Richard Lemieux
On 2021-12-20 by Richard - Wiring or Replacing the Robertshaw Oven Control
@Inspectapedia Com Moderator
If I look at the wiring diagram, there's wires goes to L1, L2, two wires on contact 3, 4, 5, and 6. On the Robertshaw oven control installed there's L1, L2, 1, 2, 3, 4. Missing wires ?
On 2021-12-19 by Inspectapedia Com Moderator (mod)
@Anonymous, Richard:
and from the closeup of the remains of the wiring diagram we see that your Moffat stove - or at least its design - dated from 1962.
Can we see a photo showing what that year's model looked like?
On 2021-12-19 by Richard: Wiring Diagrams for a 1962 Moffat Electric Stove
[Click to enlarge any image] - Wiring diagrams for a 1960s Moffat stove are provided courtesy of reader - Richard Lemieux, Canada.
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On 2021-12-17 by Inspectapedia Com Moderator (mod)
@Richard,
You'd be helping us out and helping other readers if you'd post (one photo per comment) images of your Moffat stove and of its metal data tag.
Yours is a 30" electric range model 30H45W; while we haven't found a manual or wiring diagram unique to that model, (perhaps from 1981?),
the wiring is going to be very similar to the wiring diagrams that we provide at
Moffat Stove Wiring Diagrams, Older Models - above on this page at
https://inspectapedia.com/Appliances/Moffat_Electric_Range_Repair.php#Wiring
If you'll also post a photo of the remains of the wiring diagram that you DID find, we can compare that with what we have on hand.
Below is an example wiring diagram NOT for a Moffat but for a 1960s GE electric range - this is a nice generic example of typical oven wiring.
On 2021-12-17 by Richard - 1962 Moffat 30H45W Electric Range Data Tag
@Inspectapedia Com Moderator,
On the metal data tag, the model number is 30H45W and the serial number is 774581
On 2021-12-16 by Inspectapedia Com Moderator (mod)
@Richard,
You might post a photo of the stove, and you might compare yours to some of the others displayed in this article series.
You might also look for a metal data tag. It may be present around the oven door opening.
See if that gives you a model and serial number.
On 2021-12-16 by Richard
@Inspectapedia Com Moderator,
You are right, it's glued to the back of the appliance but half of it is missing. How can I find the year of my appliance.
Thank you
On 2021-12-15 by Inspectapedia Com Moderator (mod) - where to find the wiring diagram for a 1960s Moffat Electric Range
@Richard,
Often it's glued to the back of the appliance and occasionally to the underside of a panel. Any chance you find it there?
I'm not assuming you haven't already checked but just in case...
On 2021-12-15 by Richard - Moffat stove model 30H45W and I'm looking for the wiring diagram
I have a Moffat stove model 30H45W and I'm looking for the wiring diagram. I need it for troubleshooting. My oven works only on 120 volts, I think. - Richard Lemieux, Canada.
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I have a mid fifties Moffat electric stove with oven thermostat problems. It is a bimetal, flat coil with a slide temperature selector. It will not hold to temperature and sometimes the slide moves on its own.
Could it be that the thermostat is ok and there is a linkage problem ?
New parts are not available. Does anyone have experience with this. Thanks On 2019-01-15 by Reg
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Reg
I'm unsure how repairable a Moffat oven thermostat actually is - you might find a replacement part among some of the sources listed in this article - or perhaps a reader with experience in Moffat thermostat repair can add a suggestion.
Or you may find a universal thermostat replacement for the Moffat oven that will work - that's a common approach using oven thermostats widely sold at appliance repair parts vendors, as well as online such as Amazon, eBay.
I'd like to see a photo or two of the thermostat showing as much of its operation and of its components as you can as perhaps I'll have a suggestion.
In the UK WhiteGoods has some Moffat oven thermostat replacements - some of their offerings are "unviersal oven thermostats" that might be made to work, such as one I illustrate below (from their collection)
UK Whitegoods Limited
Unit 5/6 Bonnyton Industrial Estate
Munro Place
Kilmarnock
KA1 2NP UK
Tel: 01563 557156
Email: spares@ukwhitegoods.co.uk
shop.ukwhitegoods.co.uk/moffat-oven-thermostatsUK Whitegoods also sells many other stove and oven parts such as racks, burners, door hinges etc.
Hi! My moffat suddenly dosent stop cooking! The oven will just heat no matter the temperature choosen, but it will turn off when slider completly to the left.
2 question, anybody knows the model or event better, the thermostat needed for it? - On 2022-02-22 by Emmanuel
Reply by Inspectapedia Com Moderator - how to replace a Moffat failed oven temperature sensor
You might find a generic thermocouple replacement that fits. Take the old one to your local plumbing and heating supplier.
2 steps:
There is some generic quality to these devices - at least on newer oven/range appliances.
- follow the probe tube back to the control unit; if it is attached by a screw-on fitting it can be replaced
and- if you're lucky you can find a replacement probe by searching for parts using the control number and brand
An example shown here is the [UPGRADED] 12001656 Oven Temperature Sensor Replacement Part by Blue Stars - Exact Fit for Whirlpool & Kenmore Ovens - Replaces AP4009009 74004943 PS1570174 12001554 12001656VP
as listed for sale on Amazon. If you can find a wire plug connector or even wires from the probe you can probably connect up a new one but be sure to use all high-temperature materials.
Shown here is a generic electric oven thermostat control set that might be made to work: the Nu-Vu 252-4004 Control Thermostat/Knob Kit, Proofer, OP-2 sold by partstown [dot] com and other vendors.by Emmanuel
@Inspectapedia Com Moderator, thanks, the photo you put looks like a regular knob, this moffat uses a slider.
by Inspectapedia Com Moderator
@Emmanuel,
Right - I've had a devil of a time trying to find a slider type control for the thermostat/temperature on an electric oven as a replacement part -
Can you post a close-up and sharp photo of the control ? Also look at it closely to see if there is a manufacturer name and part number. Even on a Moffat, a long-established brand, the manufacturer often used third party OEM parts.Next open each oven door and look along the door threshold or body for a manufacturer's data tag - post that photo too.
by Emmanuel
@Inspectapedia Com Moderator, Thanks, I think I can read model 3144 53T
by Inspectapedia Com Moderator
@Emmanuel,
Thank you for adding that information: a Moffat stove whose data tag shows the model number 3144 53T as well as its manufacture in Canada.
Too bad the date isn't also legible on the tag.Agreed that that's an un-common temperature controller; you might have success contacting some of the Moffat parts suppliers we list in this article.
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Below: Modern Moffat electric stoves - GE and other distributors of these modern Moffats provide service and parts but only for new models, not for antique Moffats discussed on this page.
Beginning in Australia and New Zealand in the 1920s, Moffat has produced cooking ovens and stoves sold also in North America and in the U.K. The current Moffat Products and Company has offices in Australia, New Zealand, the United States, and also markets under the Blue Seal brand in the United Kingdom.
The current Moffat company (in 2018) specializes in convection oven cooking equipment, apparently for commercial uses as well as related commercial baking equipment and fans.
While OEM replacement parts are available for current Moffat stoves (built after 1980) and products from Moffat as well as from other stove parts vendors, such parts are not readily available for older Moffat stoves popular in the 1950's and 1960's.
Illustration: Moffat's E32D5/SK32 electric convection oven. This is a current product. [Click to enlarge any image]
Current Models (not the older Moffat stoves discussed in this article - are available from the manufacturer cited above.
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