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This article explains the proper insulation amount and proper vapor barrier location below a passive solar heated concrete slab floor.

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Sub Slab Insulation Amount, Location, & Vapor Barrier Placement for Heated Slabs

Dow Super Tuff-R foam board insulation (C) Daniel Friedman - at Home Depot storesAccompanying text is reprinted/adapted/excerpted with permission from Solar Age Magazine - editor Steven Bliss.

Our page top photograph shows a horrible radiant floor slab insulation scheme installed by a Minnesota contractor - this radiant floor system never worked because the tubing was placed too deep in the concrete slab and the insulation system was incomplete.

The question-and-answer article about proper insulation amount and proper vapor barrier location below a passive solar heated concrete slab floor, quotes-from, updates, and comments an original article from Solar Age Magazine and written by Steven Bliss.


Questions about a heated slab: What thickness of insulation should I use below a 6-inch slab that has SolaRoll™ (passive solar floor heating system) auxiliary heating installed in the concrete? Where is the vapor barrier placed?

Insulating a radiant slab (C) Daniel FriedmanI am in the process of designing a car wash that will use passive solar heating in the self-service bays. In the article "Choices in Underground INsulation," Solar Age, 3/83, you discussed below-grade insulation and waterproofing and recommended the use of extruded polystyrene.

What insulation thickness should I use under a 6-inch concrete slab that has SolaRoll™ auxiliary heating installed in the concrete?

What is the best arrangement and material to use as a vapor barrier under the floor slab?

I have received contradictory advice from solar dealers regarding the placement of the vapor barrier - above and below the sub-slab insulation have both been recommended. - J.W., Gettysburg PA

Our photo (above) shows a well-designed insulated radiant-heated concrete slab with an insulated foundation perimeter being installed in Two Harbors, Minnesota in 2007.


Heated floor slab insulation detail (C) Daniel FriedmanIn a heated floor slab, heat losses into the ground and outward through the edges of the slab and foundation wall are quite significant. (See RADIANT HEAT FLOOR MISTAKES). Designers generally insulate both directly under the slab and around the perimeter as well. In cold climates it is advisable to use a minimum of 2 inches of extruded polystyrene under the slab.

Many increase the under-slab insulating foam board thickness to 3 or 4 inches at the outer 2 to 4 feet of the slab.

On the perimeter foundation wall, 2 inches of solid foam insulation are commonly used, again increasing the thickness toward the ground's surface. Our photo (left) shows insulation placed at the perimeter of a heated garage floor slab in Minneapolis, MN in 2007.

In any case, careful attention should be paid to insulating the slab edge, where heat loss is greatest. Details that thermally isolate the slab edge from the foundation wall and outdoors appear to work the best.

For a vapor barrier below a concrete floor slab, most choose 6- to 10-mil polyethylene. because extruded polystyrene insulating board will absorb little moisture, the vapor barrier can be placed above or below the slab insulation. Some builders prefer to place the vapor barrier below the insulation or even below the gravel bed because they find it easier to work on preparing the slab itself without destroying the vapor barrier membrane.

If you want to pour the concrete directly onto the plastic vapor barrier, you might protect it first with a layer of heavy felt building paper. If migration or moisture into the building is not a concern, as we suspect not in a car wash bay, you could eliminate the vapor barrier altogether.

Readers constructing an insulated slab with radiant floor heating, whether by passive solar or any other means, should see FLOOR, CONCRETE SLAB CHOICES and should not fail to read RADIANT HEAT FLOOR MISTAKES.

We discuss whether basement slab insulation is or is not recommended for ordinary basement floor slabs (non-solar, non-radiant heat) at INSULATION LOCATION for BASEMENT FLOORS.

Readers should also see FLOOR, CONCRETE SLAB CHOICES for a discussion of choice of finish floor materials to preserve use of thermal mass of a concrete floor slab.

Readers concerned about termite damage associated with foam, fiberglass, or other building insulation materials should also see TERMITE SHIELDS vs TERMITICIDE, and Insects & Foam Insulation. Contact us to suggest text changes and additions and, if you wish, to receive online listing and credit for that contribution.

Here we include solar energy, solar heating, solar hot water, and related building energy efficiency improvement articles reprinted/adapted/excerpted with permission from Solar Age Magazine - editor Steven Bliss.

"Insulating a Slab" - links to the original article in PDF form immediately below are preceded by an expanded/updated online version of this article


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