Water tank air inlet valve repair or replacement:
This article describes how to repair or replace leaky water tank air valves or Schrader valves which are used for adding air to a water pressure tank such as the water tank air valve.
Replacing a leaky air pressure adjustment valve on your water tank can avoid a costly tank replacement and can permit you to set the proper air pressure pre-charge in the water tank.
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Sometimes when we remove the cap from a water tank air valve, or more likely when we try pumping air into the water tank at the water tank's air valve, we're troubled by water (or air) leaking back out at us from the valve - making us sorry we touched it in the first place.
If the air valve or "tire valve" or Schrader valve on your water tank is leaking water or air there are a few wonderfully easy steps you can take.
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The air inlet valve location on an internal bladder type water pressure tank is illustrated in our photos just below.
At left, the air valve is under that red cap; at right is a similar tank whose air inlet valve is covered by a blue plastic cap. The air inlet valve will be located near the top of this type of water pressure tank.
...Watch out: except for an initial adjustment at the time of installation, you should not find it necessary to add air at this valve. However on occasion this valve can leak, losing the air charge in the water pressure tank. If this is the problem, the repair is simple as we'll explain below.
The air inlet valve on a bladderless water pressure tank may be at any of several locations: near the tank top, on the tank side, on a tee at the bottom of the water tank, or on well piping nearby.
At left is an air inlet valve located on the tank tee near the bottom of (what was) a bladderless water pressure tank.
At below left we point to an air valve on an older galvanized steel water tank system. At below right there is an air volume control installed at the upper right side of the water tank but this system may not have an air inlet valve.
Watch out: watch out for old air valves in a location like the one shown at left. That installation previously served a bladderless water pressure tank.
If you see an air inlet valve in this location (shown at left) and the pressure tank uses an internal bladder, you should beware of pumping air into the tank at this valve - doing so may be mixing air into the tank bladder intended to hold only water - and you'll foul up the water tank operation.
In fact with an internal bladder type water pressure tank, except for a little adjustment at tank installation, one should never need to be adding air (unless the bladder is torn or ruptured, in which case adding air is not the right fix anyway). - Thanks to reader Jay (8/2012) for suggesting this clarification.
Watch out: on some submersible pump well systems the air inlet valve is a special model intended to automatically allow air to enter the valve. Those air valves may look like any other schrader "tire" valve stem and internal valve assembly as those here, but the spring pressure and operating properties are different.
If you mix up parts the air inlet on a well served by a snifter valve may not work properly. Details about snifter valves and their air inlets and outlets are
at WATER TANK AIR VOLUME CONTROLS
with additional photos and explanation
at WATER TANK AIR ADD AT AIR VALVE.
We describe how to clean an air valve on a water tank to get it to stop leaking (water or air), how to make a simple emergency repair to force it to stop leaking, and how to replace a leaky valve stem core in a water tank air valve.
Step 1: Clear dirt on the valve stem internal parts on the water tank air valve:
The little tip that you see showing in the center of the water tank air valve stem is the part of the valve stem core that is depressed to open the air valve and permit air into the water pressure tank when you connect a tire pump or a can of compressed air.
Try just gently depressing the little pin exposed in the center of the valve stem. This pushes down a spring-loaded valve-stem core part that will let water or air flow OUT of the valve. Basically you are opening the valve.
You can use a pen tip or any small instrument. Here we're using a dental pick from our forensic lab but any small item that won't itself break off in the valve should work.
Don't bend or force the pin as you don't want to make things worse.
Often by flushing out the seat of the valve stem core in this matter you'll remove some debris that was keeping the valve from closing fully in the first place - it may be the only repair step you need to stop leaks at a water tank air valve.
If your water tank is a "captive air" or bladder type tank you should feel air coming out of this valve when it's opened, but not water. If water comes out the water tank's bladder is ruptured and the tank bladder or whole tank need replacement.
If your water tank is not a type that uses an internal bladder to keep water and air separated, OR if the air valve is located not on the water tank itself but at a plumbing fitting near the bottom of the water tank [PHOTO], you may find some water coming out of this valve. That's ok for now.
For an air valve located on top of any water tank, when the tank has been properly air-charged you should not see water coming out at the air valve.
See WATER TANK AIR, HOW TO ADD
Step 2: How to install a cap to stop a leaky water tank air valve:
Just screw on a valve stem cap tightly.
If your water tank's air valve is leaking and there is no valve cap, run out your car and borrow a cap off of one of your tires or off of a nearby bicycle or motorcycle (you can replace the borrowed valve stem cap later today.)
Screw the cap tightly onto the air valve stem at your water tank.
This will usually stop any water leak and will slow way down an air leak at the water pressure tank's air inlet valve.
Step 3: Get the necessary parts and tool to replace a leaky water tank air valve:
At your nearest auto parts supply store you can pick up the following inexpensive items you'll need to replace a leaky air valve on a water tank. Our photo shows from bottom left moving clockwise:
Step 4: Replace the leaky water tank air valve core, using the parts at the step above and by following these simple steps:
It is also possible to replace the entire Schrader Valve assembly. If your old valve is badly damaged or leaks at its base where the valve screws into the water piping, or if you can't just screw in a new valve core, this is what you'll need to do. In our photo above our pliers are loosening the black plastic valve stem cap.
Schrader valves whose body bottom is threaded and are screwed into a water tank or water pipe can be replaced entirely. Schrader valves that are welded to the top of a water tank cannot be replaced - just their valve stem core.
But alternatively you could use a small wrench to unscrew and replace the entire valve assembly Notice the white teflon tape we wrapped around the threaded part of the water tank air bleed valve assembly when we installed it in the first place. As we described above, you'll need to remove water pressure from the system to make a complete valve assembly replacement.
First be sure you have on hand, in addition to the tools described above:
Step 5: Check for leaks at the water tank air valve:
Chances are very good that the air valve is no longer leaking. If it is still leaking you may be able to remove the stem core, clean the valve threads, and try again.
If that doesn't work you need a new water tank or a plumber who can change the entire valve assembly (unlikely).
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Below you will find questions and answers previously posted on this page at its page bottom reader comment box.
Question: what kind of well system I have here?
Can anyone help me identify what kind of well system I have here? I believe my system is water-logged as the pump is short cycling. I have an old steel bladderless tank with a USG AVC Type-L (see photo) screwed into the side of it.
I see no other valve stems to fill the tank with air after I've drained it of water. This suggests it's a submersible well with a snifter valve, correct? My valve is heavily corroded and doesn't seem to be functioning. However, I have a pump sitting on my basement floor next to the tank... So I am confused on what to do. 2024-07-16 by Steven
Here is an additional photo of my pump next to my tank.
Reply by moderator:
@Steven,
That's a steel water pressure tank that does not use an internal bladder, and whose air charge was maintained by the hexagonal air control in your photo.
You can still buy those controls and similar tanks, but your photo shows rust below that small tank plug that makes me guess that this tank is rather old and iffy to work-on.
Our article WATER TANK AIR VOLUME CONTROLS
shows more examples and gives part numbers like
US Gauge & Similar Type 310WJ, Type 300SL, or Type 6 Rectangular Air Volume Controls = Excess Air Vents
These usually worked with a snifter valve (in the well) that sent some air into the water tank each time the pump cycles on/off. Excess air from that process was vented out at the excess air vent when necessary.
For a short term repair to stop your pump from short-cycling (that can damage the pump or pressure control switch)
you could try adding air to the tank manually - see WATER TANK AIR, HOW TO ADD https://inspectapedia.com/water/Water_Tank_Air_Charge.php
But given the rust that I see and the age of the tank, and in my mere OPINION, I'd be reluctant to do any expensive plumbing repairs since you might be throwing good money after bad. So unless you're someone who can try replacing that air vent control yourself you may find it a better approach to put in a new water pressure tank and air volume control.
I'd install either a new bladderless tank and control or I'd put in a new type that uses an internal bladder. But before opting for a bladder type tank, review your installation with your plumber. If there's a snifter valve in the house or in the well, those might need to be removed and plugged if going to a bladder type tank.
Question: my water tank air valve is leaking around the rubber mount on the tank
I have a Flotec FP7120 pre charged pressure tank for well water lawn irrigation . The air valve on the top of the tank is suddenly licking. The leaking is at the base of the valve between the rubber of the air valve and the metal of the tank ( the air valve is the same as the car tire valve ) Please help me, let me know what I should do to fix it . Thank you very much. 2020-07-30 by Diep
Reply by mod:
Diep, if the water tank air valve is leaking around the rubber mount on the tank itself it's likely that the whole valve assembly needs to be replaced; Let's start with the brand and model of your water tank so that we can be sure that on your particular tank that valve can indeed be removed and replaced. If so, and assuming that there is no threaded valve base that you can simply unscrew, then it's typically a matter of combining brute force to pull out the old valve and some dish soap lubricant to get the new air valve base popped into place.
Question: air is escaping around the rubber grommet going into the tank
i have a 30 gallon pressure tank. losing air at air valve on top of the tank. changed the stem but didn't help. air is escaping around the rubber grommet going into the tank. does the grommet just pull out to where i can replace it like on a car tire, or is it screwed in or attached to the bladder inside. thanking you in advance for your help. 2017-03-06 by Ray
Reply by mod:
Ray,
Usually the air valve is a force-fit rubber grommet - perhaps more easily installed using soapy water.
Question: tank still fills past the half point
I just installed a new avc on my tank and it still fills past the half point. 2016-08-28 by Carl
Reply by mod:
That may be OK, Carl.
Question: I can't find the right size air valve for my Sta-Rite
I have a Sta-Rite or Prosource (which is preferred I guess since everything I've found references to both)air tank that has a rubber air valve like a car tire would, this valve is dry rotten and requires replacement, my problem is finding out what size I need to get, I've searched high and low to determine what the tank hole size is without any luck thus far.
The tank model is PS42-T02 is there anything you can offer in help with this? The part number offered by the manufacture lists a valve with cap # U212-160B which I will need to order, I think this can be cross referenced with something I could locate easier via a local auto parts store if I could confirm it's diameter. 2016-01-05 by Anon
Reply by moderator:
Anon
The auto parts store valve looks identical but it's not: the valve stem is specifically made to mount on your water tank.On 2016-01-05 by Anonymous
What is the difference, do you know? I was thinking the diameter possibly, I read where one fellow used a utility knife I'm thinking and trimmed one down to fit, personally this isn't my style of work or anything I'd put my name on, I was just hoping to locate something through another means that might be able to stretch into that hole since it is rubber but not to the point it's too tight and could tear.
I worked in the tire business for years and swear this stem looks like a standard tire type but knowing that business I realize tire stems differ in size. I was also thinking of trying a steel type that has grommets and was designed to fit multiple size rims which might work here.
the hole appears to be on a flat surface so I would think I should be able to find something to work. in the end if nothing else I can try ordering one but as it is right now we're dealing with a pump cycling more often than it should and I don't need that to replace right now as well.
On 2016-01-05 - by (mod) -
If the valve does not fit perfectly the tank will leak. You can of course try a DIY version if you're prepared for a possible leak.
On 2016-01-13 by Anonymous
I bought a standard rubber tire valve stem this past weekend at our local department store, drained the tank and took the lower access panel off exposing the bladder, slid it to one side to get at the air valve,
removed the old valve then compared it to the new one I just purchased, other than the old one being somewhat shorter in length they were almost identical, I installed the new one using soap to lubricate, put everything back together then aired the tank, all is good so far, no leaks. problem solved as far as I can see so a tire valve will work.
On 2016-01-14 - by (mod) -
Good going, and thanks for the feedback, as it will help others. Absolutely correct: the basic design of Schrader valves is rather standard. What varies is the rubber exterior and base diameter and mounting groove - if you matched that of the original you're good to go.
Also varying is the valve core or stem. On some water system operations such as snifter valves used to control air volume in bladderless water tanks (not your type) the valve core has to open at a much lower pressure. So we don't just plug in a tire valve in those cases. Your case worked out fine. Kudos.
My water tank has a rubber valve and when I press pin in middle no air comes out and when i try to put air in with pump no air goes in . i replaced new pin in valve still nothing what should i do. points are cycling - Anon 5/8/11
Reply:
Anon: I can only guess with so little information, but sometimes the bladder in a water pressure tank bursts in such as way that it collapses blocking water into the tank or air into the tank. If your tan k is a bladder type and you press the center pin in the air valve, water (or in some designs air) would come out if there was pressure in the tank and the valve itself is not blocked.
The well pump short cycling that you refer to suggests that the tank has lost its air charge and is water logged. If it's a bladder type tank you may need a new bladder in the tank or a whole new tank assembly.
First check that that valve is really blocked. Auto supply stores sell a tool that will remove and replace the pin in the center of the Schrader valve - it's about the same as the air valve on a tire.
yowser dude that valve is in a location that will not work with a "captive air pressure tank with this set up it would be mixing air with the water in all modern tanks since at least the 1970s the tanks have the water on one side of a diaphragm [or bladder] and the air on the outside of it either by crimping a diaphragm to the actual side of the tank as in well-x- troll brands of tanks or by having a bladder directly attached to the water inlet[inside of the tank] and the air valve will be welded or threaded to the top side of the actual tank putting it on the external plumbing does nothing for the tank
heck even if it was an old galvanized tank it "could" work where you have it but would still not be correct because it would be a large PITA to aircharge in because you would have to pump air in then let water out then pump more air in then let more water out several times ,in short it would take alot of unnecessary time to charge the tank that way - Jay 8/13/12
Reply:
Thanks so much Jay, you are quite right. The plumbing shown in those photos was from an old installation whose original tank was a unit that did not use an internal bladder. And quite so, on an internal bladder type water pressure tank the schrader valve will be somewhere on or near the tank top, not at the tee on the water line.
I have adjusted the article text to make that distinction clear - as I agree that we don't want to treat a bladder type tank incorrectly.
I have also added a warning to watch out for old air valves in a location that served a prior tank - and not to use those to charge the new tank. In fact with an internal bladder type water pressure tank, except for a little adjustment at tank installation, one should never be adding air.
The only point where we don't agree, is that with a bladderless tank you don't really have to keep cycling through draining the tank to add air. As long as the incoming air is at a pressure higher than the tank pressure (easy to do, just turn off the pump and run water until pressure in the system drops), then air will have no trouble entering the water tank. It'll be compressed of course, depending on the pressure. But as long as you drain off pressure at the start of the operation, one air pumping-in cycle should be enough.
BTW, this particular water tank repair article (above) where our discussion is (for now) posted is not about air charging, it's about how to replace a leaky valve stem - a process that would be the same on all types of water pressure tanks that had an air inlet valve, regardless of its location.
(Aug 13, 2014) Anonymous said:
I have a fairly new Myers MPD 20 tank, about 8 years. It is now leaking at the valve unit itself where it fits to the tank. Is there any solution short of buying an expensive new tank? Can it be repaired or replaced. It is not a big leak but over time it floods the flooring.
thanks. Donatus.
Reply:
If the tank tapping for the air valve is badly corroded your options are to tap out to a larger size, epoxy a repair fitting (which may be unreliable) , or replace the tank
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