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Buried downspouts & downspout drains:

This article describes problems that occur in buried downspuout or roof leader drains, including broken or clogged lines that cause basement flooding. This article series discusses how to choose, install, diagnose & maintain roof gutters & downspouts, & roof drainage systems to prevent building leaks and water entry.



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Buried or "Below Grade" Downspouts

Photo of a Buried Drain Line that Should be Abandoned

Abandon this in building downspout drain (C) Daniel Friedman

The buried downspout drain line shown at left is one that we'd recommend abandoning - it connects to a drain line that enters the building through the foundation wall and passes below the basement floor, incorporating a basement floor drain, ultimately connecting the the sewer line.

Buried or below-grade downspout extensions in new construction are (or should be) directed either to "daylight" downhill from the structure so that water will drain away from the building by gravity, or they are connected to a storm drain.

For flat sites it may be necessary to drain into a drywell or "French drain" system or into a pumping chamber that sends drainage to a remote storm drain or drywell. See FRENCH DRAINS for details of handling roof runoff at flat or poorly-drained sites.


Gutter and Downspout Details (C) Carson Dunlop Associates

When a buried downspout line has become blocked (or if you're not sure if it has become blocked) we recommend that you disconnect the downspout above grade and install an above-ground extension to direct water away from the building. This step can stop basement flooding from several hidden downspout drain problems including

Sketch courtesy of Carson Dunlop Associates.

How to Detect a Clogged Buried Downspout Line

Some visual clues that indicate a clogged buried downspout drain line include:

Downspout line clogged (C) Daniel Friedman

The dramatic roof drainage leak shown at left includes several interesting observations made at this nearly-new home:

These conditions are likely to lead to basement flooding, if not immediately, as soon as the footing drains clog or a crack opens in the poured concrete foundation wall.

Don't Connect Downspout Drains to In-Building Drains & Floor Drain Systems

Gutter and Downspout Details (C) Carson Dunlop Associates

The sketch at left illustrates several reasons why it's a bad practice to connect roof drainage downspouts to drains that run through the building or under the building floors.

Sketch courtesy of Carson Dunlop Associates.

Don't Use Perforated Drain Piping for Buried Downspout Drains (near the building)

Perforated buried downspout line (C) Daniel Friedman

Some builders consider that if they use perforated 4" drain pipes to transport roof drainage away from the building, the water will "soakaway" harmlessly into the soil even if the end of the buried drain line is blocked or never taken to daylight. Both of those are mistakes.

If we see perforated drain lines close to the building (photo at left) we expect that the building will eventually have a basement water entry problem. A "fix" for this problem is to abandon the buried drain line entirely. See Buried or "Below Grade" Downspouts for more notes on abandoning buried drain lines.

Don't Bury Aluminum Downspout Drain Lines

Buried aluminum downspouts (photo, below left) corrode through and leak fairly quickly as the aluminum metal is thin and when exposed to corrosive soils or even acidic water from leaves and vegetation (or salt from ice-melts used nearby) the material will be damaged.

Buried aluminum downspout (C) Daniel Friedman Buried Plastic downspout (C) Daniel Friedman

The results are hidden leaks below ground that lead to basement or crawl space water entry.

A better design uses plastic for buried downspout lines; the plastic should be solid piping and should be brought above grade for the downspout connection (photo, above right).

Under-sized Buried Downspout Drain Lines

Too small downspout drain (C) Daniel Friedman

As our photo illustrates (left) it is usually a mistake to connect a downspout line to a buried pipe that is too small - in this case obviously smaller than the downspout drain itself.

In periods of heavy rain the small-diameter plastic pipe shown here won't handle the volume of water running off of the roof.

OK to Share Buried Downspout Lines

Sump pump empty into downspout (C) Daniel Friedman

On occasion we find that a buried downspout line has been used to dispose of basement or crawl space sump pump water. That's probably fine. But don't use your buried downspout line to dispose of graywater from sinks, laundry systems, or showers. In most communities it is illegal to dispose of gray water on to the soil surface or into nearby waterways.

Our photo (left) shows a basement sump pump drain line connected to a buried downspout drain.

And be sure that the buried downspout drain line that you are using to carry off sump pump water is properly installed and that it is not connected to the building footing drains.

Watch out: We have found buildings whose sump pumps were busily pumping away trying to get rid of basement water while discharging the water to an improperly installed drain that simply sent the water right back into the footing drain and right back into the basement.

Downspouts Used for Air Conditioning Refrigerant/Condensate Lines or Wiring

Don't mistake as part of the roof drainage system an aluminum downspout that has been used as a cosmetic cover for HVAC refrigerant lines as we illustrate in our photo at below left.

Downspout used for air conditionre refrigerant line (C) Daniel FriedmanDownspout used for air conditionre refrigerant line (C) Daniel Friedman

Some A/C installers use an aluminum downspout to cover the refrigerant and condensate lines that are routed from an attic-mounted air handler down to an outdoor ground-level compressor. But do not use downspout materials as electrical conduit.

In our second photo of downspout materials used to cover air conditioning refrigerant piping (above right), notice that the extension and elbow on the water-carrying downspout (the right-most downspout of this pair) has fallen off and we have a splash area on the ground at an "inside foundation corner" - conditions likely to cause basement water entry.

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Also see DOWNSPOUT LEAKS or start this topic at DOWNSPOUT / LEADER DEFECTS; also see GUTTER DEFECTS LIST for other sources of wet basements or crawl spaces caused by problems with the roof drainage system.

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