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Photograph of - damaged vinyl siding Guide to Plastic, Vinyl, Chemical Odor Source Diagnosis - Vinyl Siding & Plastic Windows, Flooring & other Odor Sources
     

  • Guide to Diagnosing & Curing Sources of Chemical and Plastic Odors in buildings - how to find & fix the source of plastic smells
  • Sources: Plastic & Vinyl Building Products that May Emit Odors
  • Checklist for Diagnosing Plastic or Chemical Smells in buildings - how to track down sources of plastic smells in buildings by noting area of strongest odor, time of day, sunlight exposure, and presence of particular building materials
  • Health Effects of Exposure to "Plastic or Vinyl" Odors - separate article
  • VINYL CHLORIDE HEALTH INFO - separate article
  • VINYL WINDOWS - separate article
  • SIDING VINYL - separate article
  • Questions & answers on how to find and cure sources of plastic odors at building exteriors or interiors
  • References

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How to find & cure plastic like odors and smells in buildings: this article discusses common odor sources, including indoor plastic odors or chemical smells observed at some installations of vinyl exterior building siding or in other plastic or vinyl building products such as windows and trim. We describe common sources of plastic or vinyl type indoor odors and we provide a checklist that can help pinpoint the source of such odors by noting information about the building construction, building materials, HVAC systems, weather, sunlight, temperature, time of day, wind direction, and other clues. We provide links to articles detailing possible health effects of exposure to indoor VOCs and plastic odors and smells.

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Guide to Finding Plastic or Chemical Odors In buildings

Photograph of - damaged vinyl sidingA variety of common building products, coatings, and furnishings may exude odors that disturb at least some occupants. Most of these occur in new building products and dissipate fairly rapidly. Other building odors or "house B.O." may be persistent or may be intermittent but unpleasant.

Some of these plastic-like odor sources in buildings can be tricky to track down. Here we list some common building products that may produce chemical or plastic like odors. We provide some suggestions for tracking down these odor sources in buildings, and we offer suggestions for removing or curing these odors.

Siding, window, screen, & other "plastic" odors: We've investigated a number of reports of strange odors in residential buildings that were ultimately traced to vinyl or plastic which was outgassing. We've observed this phenomenon with vinyl siding, plastic or vinyl window or door screens, and plastic or vinyl windows.

A key diagnostic step in finding odor source was the observation that the odors were strongest when the material under investigation was exposed to sunlight or other sources of heat. [This article is under development, September 2007, and we welcome content suggestions or questions].

Also see Health Effects of Exposure to "Plastic or Vinyl" Odors. For a more broad approach to diagnosing building odor sources, see ODORS, Smells, Gases in buildings-Diagnosis & Cure and see our ODOR DIAGNOSIS CHECKLIST. Because vinyl and plastics used in vehicles can also emit odors, especially when the vehicle is new, we discuss those separately BOAT & CAR SMELLS & ODORS.

Some Common Plastic & Vinyl Building Products that May Emit Odors Include:

Vinyl replacement window may not be easy to spot (C) Daniel Friedman
  • Vinyl siding in certain product batches by some manufacturers may exude a plastic odor, especially when new or when exposed to heat or sunlight. See VINYL CHLORIDE HEALTH INFO and PLASTIC ODORS-SCREENS, SIDING.

    Also see Buckled or Sagged or Rippled Vinyl Siding due to Heat Damage - Barbecue Grille or or Nearby Fire.
  • Vinyl or plastic exterior trim in certain product batches by some manufacturers may exude a plastic odor, especially when new or when exposed to heat or sunlight.

    See VINYL CHLORIDE HEALTH INFO and PLASTIC ODORS-SCREENS, SIDING
  • Vinyl or plastic windows, such as plastic-clad or vinyl clad windows by some manufacturers may exude a "chemical" odor or smell, especially when new or when heated.

    See VINYL CHLORIDE HEALTH INFO and PLASTIC ODORS-SCREENS, SIDING. A solid vinyl replacement window may not be so easy to spot during a building survey, as our photo (left) illustrates. The replacement window is covered by an aluminum storm and screen window, aluminum covered trim, etc.
  • Window or door screens, plastic or vinyl, sometimes smell, especially when new or when heated.

    PLASTIC ODORS-SCREENS, SIDING
  • Vinyl flooring, especially when new, can emit a plastic smell or odor; some flooring mastics are also odor sources. Vinyl sheet flooring odors are discussed further in the FAQs at the end of this article.
  • Vinyl-covered furniture, especially when new, can emit a strong plastic odor, as can the clear vinyl coverings used by some folks as protective furniture covers
  • Vinyl or plastic clothing such as raincoats or even plastic storage bags, especially when new
  • Some glues and mastics used to apply flooring may off-gas a plastic-like chemical smell
  • Plastic vapor barriers such as poly used as ground cover or dirt covering in crawl spaces can give off very strong chemical odors that can, in our experience, take four to seven years to dissipate, depending on the level of ventilation in the area, temperatures, and exposure to sunlight (unlikely in a crawl space). Exposure to odors & gases from a polyethylene vapor barrier we were installing in a crawl space led to severe nausea and dizziness.

Checklist for Diagnosing Plastic or Chemical Smells in buildings

We offer below a list of clues, focused on common sources of plastic-like odors, that any home owner, home inspector, or other investigator can follow in seeking to pinpoint the source of an annoying or obnoxious odor in buildings. Readers are asked to contact us to suggest additions or corrections to this list.

Often people's perception of odors varies with time and exposure or with a number of other site factors that make it hard to track down just where a smell is coming from. But if we think carefully about when, and under what conditions we notice odors, often that information is instrumental in tracking down an odor to its source and thus in helping us decide if an odor refers to a potentially dangerous or unhealthy condition.

This list is in simple alphabetic order, not in order of probable cause, importance, or health risk, all of which can vary widely.

  • Odors & Appliances: does the odor appear only when certain appliances are running: cook stove, air conditioner, heater, aquarium pump, fans, clothes dryers, clothes washers, dishwashers, or electrical devices such as TV's?
  • Odors & Building Structure: does the odor relate to presence of a nearby air movement pathway such as a building stairwell, elevator shaft, or heating and cooling duct system?
  • Odors & Fans: while exhaust fans are often used to move odors out of a building, a little thinking and investigating may be in order: does the exhaust fan or whole house fan or attic roof vent fan cause odors, dust, or even mold to move upwards through the building? (Be careful that your whole house fan or other exhaust fans do not overpower and cause improper operation of your radon mitigation system if you have one installed).
  • Odor history: when was the odor first noticed? What date? For how long has it been observed? Who first observed it? Does the first occurrence of a smell relate to an event, change, or modification in the building? If so, what exactly?
  • Odor location: does the odor appear throughout a building or only on certain floors, in certain rooms, or at certain walls?
    • What is different about the room where an odor appears:
      • What side of the building is the room on? What conditions are different there such as sun exposure, wind exposure, nearby trees, prevalent wind direction, outdoor possible odor sources?
      • What side of the room, what wall, has the strongest odor: is it an exterior or interior wall?
      • What materials are unique to the odor-source room, such as carpets, carpet padding, drapes, window shades, kind and type and age of windows, screens, heat, air conditioning, pet occupancy, people occupancy, laundry storage, proximity to baths, kitchens, laundry, openings between floors?
    • What is different about the floor or level in a building where odors occur? Proximity to basements, attics, leaks, rodents, pests, animals, heating equipment, pesticide treatments

      On request we can describe a procedure that assists in pinpointing odor sources to a particular surface or piece of furniture or carpeting, using aluminum foil, paper towels, and simple masking tape.

  • Odors & neighbors: does the odor correlate with activities by building occupants or building neighbors? What about trash burning, level of septic system usage, use of woodstoves, coal stoves, home improvements, building projects.

  • Odors & occupants: does the odor occur when the building is occupied by large number of people, visitors, or specific individuals who may have brought something new into the building?

  • Odor perceivers: who notices the smells? Is the odor perceived only by certain occupants? Is the odor more noticeable to building occupants or to occasional visitors.

    People's sensitivity to many odors tends to diminish over longer exposure times as the odor-sensing neurons and brain response become desensitized. Such individuals may notice an odor only upon entry to a building and not after being indoors for a time; people can also become desensitized to an odor such that even after leaving and returning to the building they do not notice the odor as much as is noticed by visitors. This seems especially true with animal and pet odors for people who live with pets.
  • Odor strength: is the odor perceived as strong or mild?
  • Odors & time of occurrence: does the odor appear all of the time or only at certain times. For odors that come and go, does the time of the odor correlate with:
    • Time of day, sunlight, operation of heating or cooling equipment
    • Time of year, season, foliage, outdoor or indoor activities
    • Heating or cooling season: does the odor appear when the heating system comes on? Check immediately to assure that there are no carbon monoxide hazards or flue gas hazards. See CARBON MONOXIDE - CO
    • Cooking activities may be an odor source

  • Odors & local temperature: does the odor appear or disappear in relation to changes in building temperature?
    • Sunlight striking plastic window screens may make a distinctive odor only on the sunlit side of the building
    • Plumbing system drains or vent systems may release odors when a private septic system is under heavy use or in certain weather conditions - see SEWER GAS ODORS in COLD WEATHER
  • Odors & weather conditions: does the odor correlate with weather conditions such as humidity, temperature, rain, snow, wind?

Health Effects of Exposure to "Plastic" Odors or "Vinyl" Odors

The jury may be out on this question. Plastics are used in an enormous range of building materials and consumer products, and plastics vary widely in their properties, chemical composition, tendency to give off gases, smells, odors, and in possible health concern.

One of the plastics that has received a lot of study are those using vinyl chloride. This product might be present in some common building products such as vinyl siding and vinyl windows or screens. The US EPA has classified vinyl chloride as a Group A, human carcinogen.

See Health Effects of Exposure to "Plastic or Vinyl" Odors.

Vinyl chloride might be present in gas form as a colorless, flammable gas with a faintly sweet odor at levels of about 3000 ppm (the odor detection threshold). We provide the US EPA health report on vinyl chloride at VINYL CHLORIDE HEALTH INFO.


Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) about the diagnosis & cure of plastic odors in and around buildings

Question: Trace down odors from roof on hot summer days

I had a new roof and gutter system installed a year and a half ago. Most of the roof is asphalt single and a section of the roof is torch on. On hot summer days in the evening when the weather cools down a tar type odor appears in the front of the house. This is where most of the torch on resides.

A new gutter system was also installed at the same time in that same area - it is u-shaped and the corners are sealed with what appears to be a white caulking. This odor has been ongoing since the roof/gutter system was installed and wasn't present before the installation. No one can figure out what this is happening. Any ideas? - Carmine M.

Reply:

Carmine we wouldn't expect a torch-down roof system to smell like plastic but you might indeed smell bituminous product VOC outgassing from flashings, flashing cement, or the runout or even the bituminous material itself, such as modified bitumen roofing material.

If the odor is plastic-like, I wonder if you've installed vinyl or plastic gutters and leaders?

If the odor is from roofing materials themselves (other than plastic roofing, that is) the outgassing should diminish as the roof system cures in sun over the summer.

If the odor is coming from plastic or vinyl building materials, sometimes those sources can be quite long lasting.

Question: Mysterious plastic related odor when sun hits side of home, headaches, nausea

We are trying to sort out a mysterious odor that we think is "plastic related", but not sure. A strong industrial-plastic like smell only
noticeable when sun bearing down on southwest side of home, enough to give us a headache and nausea, occasionally. Lasts only about 90 minutes when at peak.

Localized to one room with interior wall about 18 ft from exterior wall. No where else in house. We think it might be window shades, but hard to believe as odor seems to disappear when blinds are up (recent revelation). We had oil tank removed nearby room about 24 months w/professional contractor with negative soil samples. No oil smell detected ever. Also, localized mold remediation project adjacent room and professionally cleaned up. Need some help?? - Tom

Reply: things to check

Tom

We have had quite a few cases in which plastic odors in buildings were traced to a material that was being heated by the sun (or by other heat sources). Your linking of the odor to sun exposure and time of day is a helpful clue in this regard. Some components reported to give strong plastic odor outgassing when heated (including just by sun exposure) include

Plastic framed window sashes and jambs
Plastic window screens
Plastic interior window shades
Some vinyl siding and trim products
Plastic interior or exterior trim

Heating oil smell is for most people very distinctively different from plastic odors.

Try removing the suspect window shades for a week and let us know what you find. What you learn will help other readers.

Question: Comment on wet plastic odors

Everyone is worried about the smell of the windows in the sun, but they should also be concerned about what vinyl windows smell like when it is damp: you shower, run your stove, etc. Plastic smells when it is wet!! I have double glazed vinyl windows that were installed in a 1950's walk up (in the past 5 years before I moved in).

Everything in this apartment is old - the outside is 1950's stucco (not painted for years), the inside is lathe & plaster (painted with no VOC paint). The floors are the original strip oak floors. We have only wood furniture, cotton futon couch, a 40 year old stove, and a very expensive (not smelly) small fridge that we located well away from the windows.

And yet the B.O. smell coming from these windows fills up the apartment, due to any MOISTURE that accumulates on them, even in the summer. It is especially bad right now since it is in the minus temps, ie. when you wake up there is moisture all over the windows. As soon as you wipe off the moisture, run a dehumidifier, open the window, and pump up the heat - the smell goes away.

Everyone else in our building uses excessive amounts of cheap perfume to cover this up. But I think people should be aware before installing that this could happen to you. Everyone who has visited our apt has commented on it. And ironically enough, these windows don't smell in hot summer (but then again we don't get direct sunlight on them). They are great windows for keeping clean, and blocking out sound. But yes, they are smelly, 24-7. - Molly

Reply:

Thanks for the comment, Molly. We have not had reports nor tracked down plastic odors to wet conditions. I'd look carefully to be sure there are not other water or leak related odor sources including some molds that can produce odd smells in buildings.

Question: Metallic odor from window screens - what is that odor?

I moved into an apartment and removed the window screens for cleaning, which I did with dish soap and warm water in the tub. Afterwards, however, they emitted a metallic odor, without stop. I tried encasing them in huge plastic bags to contain the smell, with limited success. What on earth is this smell? - Mark W. Sherman 12/12/2011

P.S. The screens themselves are not metallic -- the material is more loose or flexible to the touch than that.

Reply:

Mark:

There are several plastic mesh materials used in window screens that produce plastic like odors when they are heated by the sun or by heat from other sources. The odor appears to depend on the chemical composition of the particular batch of screening produced by some manufacturers. Reports to us by readers suggest that these odors may be persistent in hot sunny conditions even years after the screens were installed. If you track the odor to that source and it's bothersome you may want to try replacing the screen material.

Question: what is the remedy for chemical odors from HVAC ducts

what is the remedy for ducts that emit a strong chemical odor when the heat first comes on? Also notice it when coming in from outside even after it's been on awhile. Or maybe it's the blown-in cellulose insulation? - Susan 12/23/11

Reply:

Susan: re "odors when heat first comes on" there are several possible explanations, including flue gases that leak out of a draft regulator before a good draft is established, leaks into the ductwork that produce odors that later are diluted by circulating air, or some other source.

Blown in cellulose insulation does not usually continue to emit odors after installation, and from the information in your question alone, we haven't got data suggesting that somehow odors from building insulation (say contaminated by something) would be picked up by the HVAC system.

Try the odor source track-down procedures at ODOR DIAGNOSIS CHECKLIST, PROCEDURE

Question: vinyl replacement windows smell musty at their seams, especially in sunlight

Last October (2010) we had replacement windows put in. They are stained inside and vinyl outside. If you put your nose to the the seam of the molding on the sides of the windows you can smell a musty/moldy(?) smell. We had no problem prior to this.

The odd thing is that when the sun is hitting the two affected windows (South side of the house) you can sometimes smell it as soon as you walk into the room. When the sun is not as strong (winter/cloudy, etc.) you have to put your nose to the seam to smell it. I have taken off the outlet covers and smelled there figuring if there were mold in the wall I would smell it - just dusty smell like all other house outlets (house built in 62). There are no other signs of mold.

Since the smell strengthens and alleviates (I don't think mold would do that?), It is the south side of the house, and that it started right after the new windows were put in I thought it was associated with that. Have you heard of this with windows. I also suspected the caulk? We removed the molding on one window, caulked, and replaced it and that did cut down on some of the smell.

The other weird thing is that in the summer our room smells worse than my child's and in the winter his smell worse than ours (different ways the sun is shining?). I appreciate any help you can give me. I am wondering if my scenario seems correct and how long until you think the smell will go away. I don't like my son breathing this. - Mel 12/30/12

Reply:

Mel,

Indeed there is ample empirical evidence (field reports) that some formulations of vinyl building products emit a plastic odor (possibly vinyl chloride) especially when heated, for example by sunlight.

In our experience the odors usually diminish over time but to those who are sensitive to plastic smells, the odors may not completely disappear.

Watch out: We don't know the chemical composition of the odors you describe, but to be on the safe side, I would NOT have a child sleeping in a room with noticeable plastic odors - wait for them to dissipate. Take a look at the health and exposure information described in the articles beginning at VINYL CHLORIDE HEALTH INFO (article links listed at Related Topics ).

Question: Metallic smell in new apartment kitchen in old building - fresh paint? Sun exposure?

We noticed in the fall a distinctly "metallic" smell in our new apartment, specifically the kitchen. This is an old building but the apartment was painted and new flooring installed before we moved in. There were some plumbing issues that we attributed to the smell, as it went away after the plumbing was fixed. However, we are now thinking the plumbing had nothing to do with it and it was just timing. We had no smell ALL winter, but now it is back on warmer days (above 15 degrees C) and if the sun is out. It is only in our kitchen, which gets the sunlight throughout the day. I have checked all appliances and the exhaust fan, as well as the sink, and cannot pinpoint the smell to anything other than that room. I'm beginning to think it is related to sun/temp. We have blinds that are always up, and windows that are less than 5 years old. It is a brick building. I have no idea what it could be but it is a terrible smell, and worse - the landlords believe it is our fault and are nagging us to clean it up. Our apartment is clean, i have scrubbed every possible surface in an attempt to get rid of the odor. It is not something we are causing, it must be related to the building somehow. Help! - Jamie 4/14/2012

Reply:

Jamie,

Use a helper who has a good sense of smell and see if she agrees that sun is warming the windows or window screens causing an outgassing from the plastic. Keep us posted.

Question: smell from plastic bags?

We have a constant chemical smell in our home. It is really noticeable when I leave the house, the smell is on my hair and clothing. It seems to attach it self strongly to plastic bags. We live on a golf course, could tat have something to do with it? - Jules 6/3/12

Reply:

Four months ago, a vinyl floor covering was installed in my computer room and bedroom. IN those two rooms, the smell is very plastic chemical smelling. Not everyone can smell it but I can.. When there is heat in those two rooms, the smell intensifies. My throat is constantly feeling as though it is burning, my lips, my tongue, the membranes of my nose burn and are so dry. my chest feels weighted down. I have washed the floor with every imaginable solution that has been suggested of found on internet. I have air purifiers running, the one in the computer room has a 3 light indicator,states the degree of odor present, when there is an odour present. Short of removing the flooring I don't know what to do.

Question: vinyl floor covering smells very plastic chemical, burning lips, tongue, throat

Four months ago, a vinyl floor covering was installed in my computer room and bedroom. IN those two rooms, the smell is very plastic chemical smelling. Not everyone can smell it but I can.. When there is heat in those two rooms, the smell intensifies. My throat is constantly feeling as though it is burning, my lips, my tongue, the membranes of my nose burn and are so dry. my chest feels weighted down. I have washed the floor with every imaginable solution that has been suggested of found on internet. I have air purifiers running, the one in the computer room has a 3 light indicator,states the degree of odor present, when there is an odour present. Short of removing the flooring I don't know what to do. - Edith 6/10/12

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Edith:

Portable "air purifiers" are an ineffective band-aid for a persistent contaminant - the effective approach is to find and remove or correct the source of the trouble.

If you're sure the odor source is the floor, you'd suspect either an adhesive that was used and is releasing VOCs, or the vinyl itself. Usually a combination of heat, passage of time, and fresh air ventilation cure that problem. If not, one might wonder if the particular flooring you installed might have to be removed and replaced. Weather permitting, start by improving fresh air ventilation in the area.

Question: Plastic odor from PVC deck in sunlight drives us crazy - will the odor go away

We had a cellular PVC deck installed about 6 weeks ago. I can't believe how much of an odor it has when it is in the sun. I can smell it inside the house if the windows are open and it is driving me crazy. As time goes on will this go away? I'm so disappointed. I did a lot of research and didn't come across anything about this in my research and still can't. Any suggestions? - Beth 7/29/12

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Beth, sorry to hear about the PVC deck smell complaint - it's not one we've heard reported here before.

Usually but not always, plastic odors dissipate with time, heat, sun exposure.

If you can find out for us the product name and its manufacturer we'll do some further research.

Follow-up:

Thank you for your response. It is Timber Tech XLM series. One of their reps told me over the phone that the smell should improve with time but could possibly be detected faintly when warm out--always. I did a lot of reading before choosing this deck material and it seems that the trend now is moving from composite to all PVC or capstock (composite--capped with a PVC layer). I haven't read a thing anywhere about complaints of the odor--just surprises me as it is quite strong. I don't notice anything when it is not being heated up by the sun, so I hope that with time it will improve. I have read that sun speeds up the off gassing process. I guess I just wonder how long this might take and if it will eventually lose the smell completely.

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Beth thanks for the follow-up. The information will help other readers, and we must appreciate the candor and honesty of the Timber Tech rep. I've got no experience with this particular odor problem, so we'll indeed want to hear how much the odor complaint diminishes over time.

In the case of other plastics and synthetics such as vinyl windows, our experience and reader reports show that odors from some products diminish to below notice, often in a few months, while a few products "smell" apparently for as long as the material is present. Chemistry of the individual materials seems to be key.

In our experience, for people who are sensitive to odors, the smell may never go away completely.

Also if the product accepts a sealant or stain (which themselves will have some odors) you may have some success by coating all surfaces.

Question: window screens smell when the sun hits them

I have a problem with my window screens smelling when the sun hits them - how can I remedy this? Is there a non toxic screen material that I can re - line the screens with? Thanks! - Jessica 9/7/2012

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Jessica, you can try replacing the plastic or fiberglass screens with a metal screen material; both galvanized wire and copper wire are available.

Question: severe dizziness & vomiting reported following exposure to plastic / vinyl odor

I have been working hard for long hours outside my aunt's house in New Jersey. Friday Aug. 3 I woke up after a long day of work Thursday. I woke up at 7AM in a 9' x 18' porch of vinyl windows to a sunny morning but a strong plastic odor. Throughout the house my aunt's windows smell of plastic.

I was dizzy and began vomiting and by 8AM I had been transported by ambulance to Overlook Hospital. My body temperature was at 94 but it had been a clear night and the outdoor temp. had dropped and I slept next to an open window with a slow ceiling fan near me but the doctor has asked about carbon monoxide, a furnace pipe, and at that hour and day only a properly venting hot water heater would have been running. I'll check the hospital's blood tests for vinyl chloride other plastic contaminants. Thank you very much. - R. Craig 9/14/2012

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R Craig

Thank you for this important field report about suspected health response to plastic odors. I can confirm from personal experience that dizziness and nausea can definitely ensue from exposure to fumes from a variety of plastic products. Years ago while putting down 6-mil poly over dirt in a tight crawl space I knew from the get go that the plastic I was unrolling smelled awful. Stupidly wearing no respiratory protection I figured I'd just tough it out and get the job done.

Before I could finish I was so dizzy and nauseous it was all I could do to crawl out of the area and lie on the ground in fresh air until I felt better - it took more than an hour to begin to feel OK.

Watch out: I have collected in-depth and authoritative information on exposure to VOCs, plastic odors, and PVC or polyvinyl chloride gases, and I've made sure those links are in view on these pages - at Related Topics please take a look at the articles organized under

VINYL CHLORIDE HEALTH INFO

There you'll also find details on  Inhalation Exposure to Vinyl Chloride, and Health Effects of Exposure to "Plastic or Vinyl" Odors, useful patient information sheet that you should give to your doctor. This pdf file may also be helpful: Vinyl Chloride Exposure Questionnaire

I completely agree with a physician who figures first to make sure there is no CO carbon monoxide gas hazard in the building as that can be quickly fatal to anyone. But indeed plastic odors and gases can be a concern as well.

Please keep me posted - what we learn will doubtless help other readers

Daniel - Editor.

Question: how to get rid of lingering fumes & odors from vinyl sheet flooring

I am at a loss as to how to remedy a residential indoor air quality issue. Three months ago, we purchased a house built in 2000, and replaced 1000 sq ft of vinyl sheet flooring with porcelain tile. While removing the sheet vinyl from the concrete floor, an extremely strong chemical odor was continuously emitted. It was several weeks (and the house was closed up) before the adhesive glue was “scraped off” and porcelain tile was laid.

No solvents or water were used to remove the adhesive and the floors were not grinded. Thus, the floors were scraped relatively smooth, but much of the adhesive was still embedded in the concrete when the thinset was spread and the tile put down and grouted. It has now been six weeks since the tile work for the entire house (2100 sf) has been completed. Although somewhat lessened, the odor (from the adhesive glue?) that was present when the vinyl was initially removed is still very noticeable, and is strong enough to cause difficulty breathing.

This surprised me because I was told the tile would seal any odors from the concrete. I don't know the specific compounds in the vinyl glue adhesive made in 2000 (ie how much formaldehyde, etc), how long it might take to off gas, and whether the drywall has absorbed the fumes during the time the vinyl/adhesive was off gassing. (We did paint the walls with zero VOC Benjamin Moore /Sherwin Williams paint after the tile work was completed). In the meantime, we have been opening up the house everyday for 4-5 hours, which helps until a day goes by when the house is closed up.

Then the odor is as strong as ever. We have thus far been unable to occupy the house. Can you provide any direction/suggestions? Thank you in advance for your help. - J.B. 12/15/12

Reply:

A competent onsite inspection by an expert usually finds additional clues that help accurately diagnose a problem with odors, such as another apparent odor source or pathway, or something that is unfamiliar to building occupants but that may be useful.  That said, here are some things to consider - keeping in mind that from no onsite inspection the following is speculation in an effort to be helpful:

In my experience, and similar to your own expectation, porcelain tile and grout, although not 100% impervious to gases and odors, are nearly-so and so would not be expected to pass much odors from prior vinyl flooring tile mastic up through the new floor covering into the room.

Therefore I suspect that there is another odor source. Since you recognize the odor in the area as the same as that emitted when you were removing the old vinyl floor covering, I speculate that VOCs from that procedure may have penetrated other building materials and surfaces, such as drywall, ceiling tiles, &c. that in turn re-emit those gases slowly back into the room.

I have found other examples of lingering odors from building materials that appear intact but that have been either chemically changed or have absorbed gases from an original source (such as following inappropriate use of ozone in buildings)

I am not confident that having coated the walls with the paint you describe would necessarily serve as an odor sealant;

You do not mention what is on the room's ceiling, another possible odor reservoir, nor any furnishings, curtains, etc. that may have been affected by the original odors you describe.

I think that opening and ventilating the building helps, so would turning up the heat and using fans to exhaust heated air - wasting energy for a while but perhaps speeding the odor reduction.

But before spending on any more heroic or extreme attacks on this odor problem why don't you try our odor track-down smell patch test procedure (SMELL PATCH TEST to Track Down Odors) to see if you can narrow down an odor source to walls, ceilings, furnishings. That might in turn suggest further steps. For example there are special odor-sealing paints and coatings used to paint building framing or walls following a fire, to control post-fire smoke and burn odors. Those coatings in turn can be re-coated with the desired surface finish paint


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  • [1] "Vinyl Chloride, Hazard Summary-Created in April 1992; Revised in January 2000," US EPA, available at epa.gov/ttn/uatw/hlthef/vinylchl.html
  • [2] Asthma Citation: Bornehag, CG, et al. “Allergic symptoms and asthma among children are associated with phthalates in dust from their homes: a nested casecontrol study,” Environmental Health Perspectives. 15 July 2004
  • [3] HCL (hydrochloric acid) Toxicity Citation: OEHHA(CA Office of Environmental Health Assessment) Acute Toxicity Summary: Hydrogen Chloride March 1999
  • [4] American Conference of Governmental Industrial Hygienists (ACGIH).  1999 TLVs and BEIs.  Threshold Limit Values for Chemical Substances and Physical Agents, Biological Exposure Indices.  Cincinnati, OH.  1999.
  • [5] "Blue Vinyl", (movie), BLUE VINYL TOXIC COMEDY PICTURES, 77 Bleecker St #C218, New York, NY 10012 Phone: 212.875.0456 Fax: 646.290.9274 Screening information: email: screenings@bluevinyl.org, Co-Director/Co-Producer Judith Helfand Judith@bluevinyl.org, Co-Dir/Co-Producer/D.P. Dan Gold, Dan@bluevinyl.org, Co-Producer Julie Parker, Julie@bluevinyl.org - from the film's website:
    A Toxic Comedy Look at Vinyl, The World's Second Largest Selling Plastic. With humor, hope and a piece of vinyl siding firmly in hand, Peabody Award-winning filmmaker Judith Helfand and co-director Daniel B. Gold travel from Helfand’s hometown to America’s vinyl manufacturing capital and beyond in search of answers about the nature of polyvinyl chloride (PVC). Her parents’ decision to “re-side” their house with this seemingly benign cure-all for many suburban homes turns into a toxic odyssey with twists and turns that most ordinary homeowners would never dare to take. The result is a humorous but sobering and uniquely personal exploration of the relationship between consumers and industry in the feature-length documentary BLUE VINYL, which won the cinematography award in the documentary competition at the 2002 Sundance Film Festival
    BLUE VINYL also poses a refreshingly simple question: “Is it possible to make products that never hurt anyone at any point of their life cycle—when manufactured, when used, or when disposed of?"
  • [6] Carcinogenicity of Vinyl Bromide Exposure, NIH, ntp.niehs.nih.gov/ntp/roc/eleventh/profiles/s185viny.pdf
  • [7] Vinyl acetate information: not to be confused with vinyl chloride
    • information from OSHA: see osha.gov/SLTC/healthguidelines/vinylacetate/recognition.html includes exposure limits and hazard description.
    • data sheet from DOW chemical: see dow.com/productsafety/finder/vinyl.htm
  • [8] Medical Management Guidelines for Vinyl Chloride (C2H3Cl) - PDF from the US ATSDR, Department of health and Human Services, Agency for Toxic substances and Disease Registry, atsdr.cdc.gov/MHMI/mmg20.html. ATSDR can tell you where to find occupational and environmental health clinics. Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry, Division of Toxicology and Environmental Medicine, 1600 Clifton Road NE, Mailstop F-32, Atlanta, GA 30333, 800-CDC-INFO • 888-232-6348 (TTY), Email: cdcinfo@cdc.gov
  • [9] "Standard Support and Environmental Impact Statement: Emission Standard for Vinyl Chloride" - original source U.S. Environmental Protection Agency US EPA, National Center for Environmental Publications (NSCEP) at http://www.epa.gov/nscep/ordering.html
  • [10] Vinyl Chloride Exposure Questionnaire
  • "Siding With Vinyl", Vinyl Siding Institute, a vinyl building products industry association, National Housing Center, 120115th Street NW, Suite 220, Washington, DC 20005 - www.vinylsiding.org
  • [11] Thanks to reader Uri Dekel, Ph.D. for discussing PVC hazards and building odors 4/12/2010

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