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What is superheat and how is that measurement used in charging or adjusting air conditioning or refrigeration or heat pump systems?

This article series defines terms used in air conditioning, heating systems, refrigeration systems and other physics applications.

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Superheat FAQs

Superheat Temperatures & Pressures for Refrigerants - Sporlan Parker Hannilfin Corp as adapted at InspectApedia.comHow Do I Use subcooling or superheat to charge an AC system?

Very interesting and informative article. I've recently had "added" to my responsibilities a lot of A/C kit. Although an engineer I haven't any qualifications in A/C but would like to be aware of what's happening (or isn't) when these guys visit the site. So I bought books on the subject and read up on it.

Question: I've just been reading a book (printed 2009) where the author lists and describes different methods of charging an A/C system.

One method he describes uses the compressor motor current to indicate when the unit is full of gas and none of his other methods mention subcooling anywhere.

Comments please. 7/22/2014 Tom

Reply: What are typical A/C superheat numbers?

Tom,

Indeed we've read & discussed measuring current draw which is an indirect measure of motor loading which in turn can describe what the motor is "seeing" in discussing evaluation of water wells. So in concept I agree that one could have an idea of the refrigerant charge by noting whether or not the compressor were running under load - as would happen when there is enough refrigerant present to lead to high pressures on the high side.

But frankly I'm dubious that one could have an accurate idea of the actual charge level with this approach.

It may be possible that with a specific compressor motor, TEV, a specific refrigerant gas, and other variables held constant and with some experience with having put in a measured charge and then measured motor current draw one could infer something about that specific set-up.

But as motor properties vary and refrigerant gas properties vary, and as normal operating pressures vary among HVAC systems by refrigerant gas itself, I'm skeptical about the claim that merely measuring current could be at all accurate as an indicator of the precise charge.

You could, in sum, determine if there were a significant undercharge (low current) or a stuck TEV (high current) ... maybe.

And many texts including my own pay too little attention to superheating or subcooling though those are important measurements, perhaps because deeper understanding of refrigeration principles is required. As you've probably read, subcooling and superheating are important conditions that can be measured in a properly-functioning HVACR system.

Watch out: improper adjustment of a TEV or thermostatic expansion valve or any other refrigerant device can result in sending liquid refrigerant into the compressor, causing catastrophic damage.

Liquid slugging at the compressor:

The damage referred to is liquid slugging. An air conditioner or heat pump compressor's valves are designed to pass gas, not liquid. Slamming a piston into liquid destroys the compressor.

We discuss refrigerant flooding and six common causes of liquid refrigerant slugging the compressor in more detail

at REFRIGERANT FLOODBACK, LIQUID SLUGGING

For discussion of the refrigerant pressure / temperature chart shown above

see REFRIGERANT PRESSURE READINGS


Question: can I measure compressor current draw to determine when refrigerant charge is correct?

Tim said:

I've just been reading a book (printed 2009) where the author lists and describes different methods of charging an A/C system. One method he dscribes uses the compressor motor current to indicate when the unit is full of gas and none of his other methods mention subcooling anywhere. Comments please.

Reply:

Tim,

Indeed we've read & discussed measuring current draw which is an indirect measure of motor loading which in turn can describe what the motor is "seeing" in discussing evaluation of water wells.

So in concept I agree that one could have an idea of the refrigerant charge by noting whether or not the compressor were running under load - as would happen when there is enough refrigerant present to lead to high pressures on the high side.

But frankly I'm dubious that one could have an accurate idea of the actual charge level with this approach. It may be possible that with a specific compressor motor, TEV, a specific refrigerant gas, and other variables held constant and with some experience with having put in a measured charge and then measured motor current draw one could infer something about that specific set-up.

But as motor properties vary and refrigerant gas properties vary, and as normal operating pressures vary among HVAC systems by refrigerant gas itself, I'm skeptical about the claim that mere measuring current could be at all accurate as an indicator of the precise charge.

You could, in sum, determine if there were a significant undercharge (low current) or a stuck TEV (high current) ... maybe.

And many texts including my own pay little attention to superheating or subcooling though those are valid measurements, perhaps because deeper understanding of refrigeration principles is required.

As you've probably read, subcooling and superheating are important conditions that can be measured in a properly-functioning HVACR system.

Put simply for other readers, "superheat" is the number of degrees to which a refrigerant gas is above its boiling point.

Superheated high pressure refrigerant gas exits the compressor where it is condensed to a liquid in the compressor/condenser unit outdoor condensing coil.

Thanks for the question, Tim, it was helpful. To assist other readers I've included our notes along with some expansion & citations in DEFINITION of SUPERHEAT

and at THERMOSTATIC EXPANSION VALVES

and at SUBCOOLING DEFINITION

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