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Mobile home heating systems:
How to Inspect the heating systems in mobile homes, trailers, double-wides, multi-wides:
How to spot common and dangerous defects in heating equipment incuding furnaces and boilers, inadequate heat distribution, freeze-ups, and safety hazards. Mobile home or manufactured home heating ductwork defects. Mobile home insulation defects and remedies to reduce heating costs.
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Question: I was startled out of my skin to see a cat jump into the living room from a floor vent
(Aug 29, 2012) Maxine Payne said:
The red tag was apparently covered up when vinyl siding was installed. Now I want to sell the property, but I can't because I do not have the red tag number. How do I get the red tag number?
(Aug 29, 2012) Greg Filian said:
The flashing of the lights mentioned are they in the whole house or just one outlet? If it's just one outlet it may be just the outlet, if it's the whole house the problem may be at the main connection.
(Sept 8, 2012) Gail said:
I am looking at buying a double wide through an estate sale. The "trustee" of the estate is the deceased owners daughter, who know very little to anything about mobile homes (as I).
I am hiring an inspector, how ever he wont be available for 3 weeks and I have an immediate concern...
While standing in the living room I was startled out of my skin to see a cat jump into the living room from a floor vent ( vent cover was pulled off) I looked into the vent and it appears to be completley open - no duct work - just a view of the ground beneath. The daughter said that that was common and is there for ventilation. LOL Tell me this isnt so!
Thank you SO much for the wonderful cat - HVAC system question.
Yes I can tell you "it isn't so" - that is, it is not good practice to simply leave floor vents in a home open to the outdoors such that anything, including a cat (or worse, a raccoon) can hop in for a visit.
I can imagine a few reasons why you might have found the missing duct work and open floor vent, all adding up to some more trouble and work for you. For example most likely there was a heating or heating and cooling system that used air but that has disintegrated, been damaged, fallen off, or was simply removed and abandoned.
Sometimes too, when warm or cool air delivery into a home is poor in flow rate or quantity, people try to improve system operation by adding more return air to the system by just cutting an opening that lets outdoor air into the system somewhere.
The problem is this is the most expensive possible way to heat or cool a home since it's a "one way" design - we take un-conditioned air from outside, heat it or cool it, then try moving it into the living area.
Really the most significant implication of the cat in the hat, I mean cat in the vent discovery in your possible future home's heating sysem is that it's a red flag to watch out for other work done or "problems solved" by the same person on that home - as you may find other amateur workmanship that lengthens the list of repairs and improvements needed to make the home safe and habitable to normal standards.
Keep me posted, and send along photos if you can (use the CONTACT US link at page bottom or top) - especially if ... the cat comes back.
I suppose a less ridiculous explanation that the owner could have invented might have been to explain
"Oh I forgot to tell you, that's just Marion, my mom's cat. Marion comes with the house. The hole in the floor is her pet door."
Checklist of Common Defects in Mobile Home & Manufactured Home Heating Systems
Air filters are often ignored - change the filter monthly when the heating or cooling system are in use. A clogged air filter will reduce air flow from your heater, increasing heating costs as well as making the home less comfortable.
Outside heating oil tank not protected from freezing (using more expensive kerosene mix?) or use of heating tapes on heating oil lines - a possible fire risk (photo above)
Unsafe heating system chimney and vent installations on mobile homes and trailers (photos above)
Our photo (above left) shows an oil fired heating flue venting directly through the mobile home side wall and just inches from the home's windows.
Our second photo (above-right) shows a makeshift gas flue using aluminum venting (not recommended, unsafe), a too-short chimney (inadequate draft) and flimsy construction, as well as probably leaks into the home wall over the entry door. Notice the soot around the base of the flue where it penetrates the wall?
Unsafe fire clearances and inadequate working space to maintain heating equipment are not due to the mobile home manufacturer but due to low-budget modifications such as this oil burner access through a bath vanity cabinet door (photo above).
Warm air heat return air in a mobile home: all return air taken from crawl area
beneath living unit - one-way heat; blocked return; blocked supply; ducts
through un-heated area;
NO return air, or none when utility closet door is shut! We see this design too often - it is the most expensive way you could heat your mobile home since none of the interior air is being recycled through the heating furnace.
Mobile home heat safety warning: Our photo of a mobile home warm air furnace (left) shows that someone has put paneling over the door to stop drafts - also cutting off return air to the furnace and possibly making it very dangerous if this step has also cut off combustion air from this heater.
Because the mobile home furnace is shoe-horned into a tight space it is too often the case that the system is not inspected and cleaned on schedule. Generally you will save more on reduced heating costs by having an expert clean and tune the system than you will pay for the service call.
LP Tanks, copper gas lines are often left unsupported and exposed to mechanical
damage; also check for LP gas leaks at tanks or fittings;
Oil tanks at trailers and mobile homes - indoor-rated heating oil tanks are quite often placed outside, above ground,
in ground contact, with heat tapes (a fire hazard), often leaking, and in cold
climates, exposed to frost-risk which in turn risks loss of heat and related damage to the home
Missing or still-covered-over spark arrestor on the heating flue on a mobile home - have your heating service technician check the safety of the entire flue and chimney, including the outside components
Combustion Air Defects & Safety Hazards at Doublewide, Mobile Home or Trailer Home Heating System
Below our photographs illustrate several unsafe conditions at a house trailer's heating system inspected by D Friedman & S Vermilye during a mobile home site safety investigation.
No return air from occupied space to the furnace: Above we notice that when the door to the "furnace closet" in this mobile home is shut, there is no return air movement from the home's heated interior to the furnace - creating the most-expensive possible way to operate the furnace. We call this a "one way" heating system: scrounge some air from a cold outdoor or crawl space source, heat it, and blow it into the living space.
In addition to the absence of return air to the heating furnace we notice that
Dirt blockage of air flow: the return air inlet grille is partly blocked by dust and debris, further reducing air flow, increasing heating cost, and ...
Watch out: there is an increased risk of potentially fatal carbon monoxide poisoning if the system lacks adequate combustion air
Blocked air filter: if an air filter is installed (remains to be discovered), given how dirty is the exterior of this furnace the air filter may be equally dirty and airflow blocked
The leak stains and corrosoion on and below the heating flue indicate that the chimney and flue are leaking, risking hidden damage, leaks, holes, water or rust damage to the furnace heat exchanger: all further pointers to an unsafe heating system
On some of these installations combustion air is provided from outdoors through wall or floor openings in the furnace closet, increasing safety but ignoring operating cost
Unsafe chimney outside: incomplete, leaks, missing cap, too short, bad draft - are illustrated by our outdoor heating flue/chimney photos earlier on this page.
Question: Mobile home furnace not working
(Dec 14, 2012) Sean Newcomer said:
I have a brand new thermo pride furnace for my moble home it ran fine for two months the furnace started cylcling, it would burn then the fan would come on after a couple minutes the call to burn would shut off, then the fan would shut off a few mins later, upon fan going off the burner would cycle for heat again and the fan would come on heat would stop and so on. but the heat keeps climbing it doesn't stop
so i got ahold of the installer he told me it was the thermostat, i replaced it and still does the same its under warranty but i can't afford to pay a serve man 200.00 to come to tell me the problem. is it the burner control or is it the computer board can it be reset and how
IF the warm air output from a supply register is blowing right onto the room wall thermostat, then "the thermostat is the problem" could be a correct statement.
Otherwise I suspect a bad fan limit switch or improper installation of that control. For example, if the limit switch is mis-adjusted or if its sensor spring is binding, the system won't work properly.
Watch out: a fan limit switch that is bent, damaged, mis-handled, even mis-adjusted, can be dangerous, risking damage to the heating equipment or even a fire.
Diagnostic articles for heating problem troubleshooting are at
Question: fixing or replacing mobile home or doublewide ductwork invaded by rats
23 January 2015 Chuck said:
I have a doublewide mobile home with the air ducts in the cieling. A rat has gotten into the air duct and chewed insulation and now insulation is blowing through the vent. I am going to have a company put a camera up there to find the break so it can be fixed.
My question is would it be easier for me once I knew exactly where the break was to just go in from the roof. It seems alot faster and less expensive than tearing out the cieling and replacing sheetrock, tape and bed and repainting, not to mention the mess in the house. What are your thoughts?
If your doublewide has a conventional continuous metal roof over an inaccessible space then you won't do well trying to cut into the roof and you risk creating a point of future roof leaks. I'd be inclined to work from the interior. But then I haven't seen your home.
If there is an attic access (which some doublewides have) then of course it'd make sense to get into that space and remove and replace the ductwork and any contaminated insulation.
Further, if there were rats in the ductwork, you want to replace ALL of the ductwork and insulation where rats were nesting lest their pee and poop and other debris become a health concern later on.
Mobile Home & Trailer Home Insulation & Ventilation Defects, Diagnosis, Repair, Improvement
See Subpart H, Heating, Cooling and Fuel Burning Systems in that document.
Ver5 - 2018 01 13 updated through January 2018 - Steve Vermilye, New Paltz NY and Daniel Friedman, Poughkeepsie NY,
Hudson Valley ASHI Chapter Seminar, Newburgh NY, January 4, 2000, NY Metro ASHI Fall 99 Seminar, Holiday Inn Crowne Plaza, White Plains NY, October
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The Section 184 Indian Home Loan Guarantee Program is a home mortgage specifically designed for American Indian and Alaska Native families, Alaska Villages, Tribes, or Tribally Designated Housing Entities. Section 184 loans can be used, both on and off native lands, for new construction, rehabilitation, purchase of an existing home, or refinance.
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 New York State: "Manufactured Homes: an installation guide for the code enforcement official," undated. [Div. of Code Enforcement & Admin. - 518-474-4073, George E. Clark, Jr., Director] - this is a guide tool, not an enforcement code or standard.
 HUD State Administrative Agency (for 36 states) (NY: 518-474-4073) - for complaints
 Manufactured Housing Institute, 2101 Wilson Blvd. Ste. 610, Arlington VA 22201 703-558-0400 www.mfghome.org
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