Oil Burner Puffback questions & answers:
Frequently-asked questions & answers about the cause, cure, and prevention of oil burner puffback explosions that can blow soot and oil burner fumes throughout a building.
Oil burners, used on heating furnaces, boilers, water heaters, calorifiers, cylinders, or other heating appliances can, improperly serviced or adjusted, cause puffbacks that can be dangerous, as well as expensive.
This article explains the cause, cure, and prevention of potentially dangerous and sooty oil fired heating equipment puffbacks that can occur at an oil fired boiler, furnace, or water heater.
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These Questions & answers about oil burner puffbacks & puffback explosions were posted originally
at OIL BURNER SOOT & PUFFBACKS - be sure you read through the causes, cures, and prevention for puffbacks given there.
Watch out: if the reset button on your heating equipment has popped, you might press it ONCE to see if the equipment will run and provide heat (or hot water) while you wait for repair service.
But do not keep pressing the button repeatedly as doing so, particluarly if the burner does not run for 10 minutes or more, risks a dangerous puffback explosion when un-burned fuel in the heater finally ignites - causing a puffback explosion.
At AQUASTAT RESET BUTTON we list the location of all of the various reset buttons and controls found on heating equipment.
I have a 2 year old Trianco, external combi boiler which keeps cutting out. When I reset it, it makes a loud noise on igniting. (Oct 23, 2012) Rab G said:
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Rab G:
Watch out: A loud noise like a BANG when the oil burner ignites is usually a sign that un-burned oil in the combustion chamber is being ignited at burner start-up. This is DANGEROUS and can damage the heating equipment, blow off a flue vent connector and as a "puffback" can blow soot throughout the building.
Usually the problem is sloppy oil burner shut-down, fixed by changing out the fuel unit (expensive) or by installing an oil delay valve or stop valve (discussed at InspectApedia.com - just try the search function).
Mike,smoke and oil smell threw out my house every time my heat goes on everything seems to be running fine so today i replace both filters ,cleaned the nozzle, clean ducts above unit and it still happened. what's next? (Jan 25, 2014) Anonymous said:
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Anon you are describing a system not working safely and at risk of a messy or dangerous puff-back explosion. I can't say from just your note if the problem is a blocked flue, lack of combustion air, or a cleaning and adjustment problem.
But if it were my house and oil smell and smoke were being sent by my heater throughout my house I would TURN OFF THE SYSTEM IMMEDIATELY and would call my oil heat service company for emergency service.
The money you save by trying to fix the system yourself may be much less than the cost of re-painting the soot-covered house interior or repairing other damage.
I get puff-backs on very cold windy day/nights, I think Root Cause is from poor design chimney that allows down draft(short, boiler in basement). I have the same issue with when starting cold fireplace on 1st floor that is in same masonry chimney structure.
I put a small portable heater next to boiler aluminum flue air inlet before entering masonry chimney and it seem to resolve problem after I hear the first explosion. Suggest anything different. Very helpful site on all aspects of boiler service (Feb 1, 2014) Tom said:
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Tom, I think it might be smart to get a certified chimney sweep to inspect and advise about the flues; puffbacks can get worse and serious, even dangerous; We don't know if it's a blocked flue, damaged flue, or bad design. Or you could be lucky and just need a different chimney cap; some diagnosis of the actual chimney problem is needed.
We had a puffback recently in our home and the mess was unbelieveable. We have our furnace serviced twice a year, but obviously something wasn't done correctly.
I have a general question - for an oil furnace, where does the residual soot go - up the chimney?
If the chimney is not maintained, then I am guessing the soot will build up in the chimney and then eventually back down into the furnace. Can this cause a puffback as well? I am new at this stuff, so your help is much appreciated. Your site has been very informative! - Lori
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Lori
Soot particles produced by fossil fuel combustion end up either deposited in the heating appliance or in the chimney except for those that manage to escape into the air along with flue gases discharged to the outdoors. Part of proper oil fired heating appliance service includes cleaning and adjustment to keep the soot production low without setting combustion temperatures so high that while there is still less soot too much of your oil fuel dollar goes up the chimney.
Annual cleaning and service are very important for all heating appliances but particularly so for oil fired heaters since some soot deposition during the heating season is normal.
A puffback itself may be indirectly caused by soot accumulation if that accumulation prevents proper combustion or prevents proper operation of the oil burner.
But the immediate cause is the ignition of incompletely-burned or un-burned oil in the combustion chamber - an event that certainly has other causes (such as air leaks in the oil piping or any oil burner operating problem that prevents complete combusion).
We had a puffback in our home is this dangerous to our health? Ins. co being notified. (Mar 17, 2015) Joan Thorson
Reply:
Joan it's a fair question to ask but not one that can be assessed by an e-text. Sure, breathing oil burner soot is potentially hazardous - it depends on the dose and exposure duration as well as individual health and vulnerability.
If you or any occupants have reason to feel concerned I'd check with the family doctor first.
Also see HEATING OIL EXPOSURE HAZARDS, LIMITS
and see SOOT on OIL FIRED HEATING EQUIPMENT
And of course any explosion can be quite dangerous.
My neighbors chimney spewed ash all over our yard and house and cars. They heat with oil and yesterday a new furnace was put in. However I want to know if the stuff from their chimney is a health issue for us and our pets? It is all over our dog and covers the entire block in our area. thanks, Peggy On 2018-01-11 by Peggy
by (mod) - Oil burner puffbacks can be dangerous
Peggy
Your neighbor's oil burner is or was not working properly and was probably unsafe.
The chief material in black ash from an oil burner is soot.
That can be hazardous, DEPENDING on the duration and level of actual exposure. That's not something one can assess by e-text. But you will read in the research I'll cite below that principal hazards are from acute exposure such as that experienced by oil burner service technicians.
See our research on oil burner puffback hazards
I had my oil furnace cleaned three weeks ago and about a week latter the oil deliver man came to deliver oil and overflow the oil tanks causing a leak on the floor.
He went to the furnace and opened it to removed some of the oil to prevent the continuous oil leak from the oil tank cap. While he was removing the oil he kept on pressing on the ignition starter to force the furnace to run in order for him to remove the oil faster.
Couple days latter the temperature in the house dropped from 70 to 58 degrees. I called the maintenance company that cleaned my system and when he turned on the furnace a puffback explosion occurred. What caused the puffback explosion in this case? On 2020-12-20 by Ali
by (mod) - oil burner puffback after oil tank over-filled
Ali
I'm sure sorry that you had a puffback explosion and hope the the first priority - making the heating system safe and functional - has been addressed.
The causes and underlying explanation of puffback explosion are given on the page above.
I'm unclear about exactly what your oil delivery person did nor how excess oil was removed.
There are certainly possible mistakes, such as leaving an air leak in the oil line, that could result in a later puffback explosion.
But when a puffback explosion occurs the first time a boiler is turned back on immediately after service and cleaning, then the problem is most-likely due to the service and cleaning procedure that were just performed, less directly than something that was done days earlier and considering that the heater ran through multiple heat-on cycles after that event.
By "less directly" I mean that if the oil delivery guy left the system not working properly that could have led to incomplete combustion of oil, accumulation of sludge and crud on the oil burner nozzle, loss of heat, and a subsequent need for a no-heat service call.
An experienced service tech might remember (or might forget) to check the combustion chamber for an accumulation of un-burned oil before turning the system back on.
Montgomery ward 700 oil furnace.
Started smoking up vents after it shuts off.
Chimney is clean.
How to clean it. Model mp98 On 2020-09-17 by Priscilla Riddle
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Priscilla
When you get smoky flame at shut down on an oil burner then the most-likely cause is the oil burner's fuel unit our pump's shut down valve is dirty, clogging, not working properly. That's an internal valve in the pump that's designed to stop the oil flow quickly when the motor stops turning. If it doesn't work then low pressure oil is sent through the nozzle where it burns incompletely, hence the smoke.
The risk is a dangerous puffback explosion.
That shutoff valve is not usually serviced in the field but rather the service tech will replace the fuel unit itself.
Don't try it yourself.
My boiler had a few false starts, and I guess it sprayed fuel into the combustion chamber which is sitting in a puddle. I replaced the electrodes and the nozzle and fuel filter, and it started right up and sounds smooth and quiet- but it is spewing out black smoke, so I shut it off. My question is, will the fuel oil evaporate or should I do something else? On 2020-04-19 by Ian
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Ian
Lest you feel bad about the problem that you were describing, i admit I've certainly done the same thing and had the same problem.
You did the right thing to turn off the heater. The real risk is a dangerous and terribly messy puff back explosion into the building rather than just black smoke going up the chimney.
You need to be confident. The problem is just some temporary spillage and not something worse like a leak in the oil line connections or nozzle adapter that is continually spraying unburnt oil into the combustion chamber.
If you're confident that there's no actual leak and that there was a single event then what a service tech would do would be probably to pull the burner and wipe out any pooled oil to get things as clean and dry as possible.
She might then wait some hours before turning the system back on. At that point there will be some smokey exhaust but it should clear up in a minute or two. If it continues Beyond a couple of minutes I would be concerned particularly if the smoke was not diminishing and at that point I'm afraid I would have to turn the system off again for more cleaning and inspection for leaks.
by Anonymous
danjoe, thanks for setting me straight on this, while I thought that was the next logical step, I appreciate your explanation-
I'll do this tomorrow after work and report back in. Thanksby (mod) -
Stay safe and do ket me know what happens.
You shoul know that while you can get the burner to run, is not possible to properly set up and tune a modern oil burner without measuring smoke, co2, temperature, draft.
What causes water sound in my vent and black smoke came out of the vent once. There is a boiler system here. On 2018-01-22 by Kelly Mingus
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Kelly
You may be hearing the sudden ignition or 'explosion' of un-burned oil that collects in the combustion chamber if an oil burner is not working properly.
Watch out: such explosions can be dangerous as well as making a sooty mess of a building. Ask your heating service company to inspect and repair or adjust the system.
Thank you for your informative website. As a homeowner trying to deal with a puffback it is a sight for *dirty* eyes!! Under the heading
What Causes Sooty Puffbacks at Oil-Fired Heating Boilers, Furnaces, Water Heaters [article above] there is a statement in paragraph one that states "Depending on the quantity of oil that is ignited, the puffback can damage the boiler itself...".
This seems to be the opposite of what my insurance carrier is telling me. They maintain that a faulty boiler causes a puffback and thus is not covered under the homeowners policy because it is the culprit, only the damage it causes is.
Where would I look to determine what, if any, amount of unburned oil could have actually damaged my boiler? Thanks, D.F.
Moderator Reply
Our InspectAPedia photo (above left) shows soot on the ceiling of a garage just outside a boiler room where an oil-fired heating boiler was operating improperly and blowing soot into the building - a puffback from this system was imminent. This is not the building discussed by D.F. above. As you can see by the exposed wall studs in the right side of the photo, we had already begun demolishing the sooty drywall in this home.
Reader Follow-up:
Thank you so much for your answer. I have since learned a bit more about boilers and would like to correct some confusion with my wording now. I do apologize as boiler jargon is really not my thing. My boiler has been maintained but it is aged. I had shut down the system for the season, or so I thought. It was an unusual damp, wet May. I suspect one of the kids hit the on switch at the entry to the basement.
Regardless, since the boiler has to be replaced I am trying to learn. I am trying to understand the term *inherent vices* of a boiler that exclude replacement coverage under the homeowners policy.
I am coming to understand that there are some condition that are known to cause the boiler to "damage itself". In other words, wear and tear, causing a puffback.
However, the wording in your article led me to question whether the oil/puffback could be an "external" element that caused the damage to the boiler. Its sorta like what came first, the chicken or the egg. There were no visible leaks so I am wondering how the "excess oil" could have gotten there.
Are there any possibilities that tie in the oil tank (outside underground)? Either way, I am learning it is an uphill battle to actually get the boiler replacement cost covered which; is a real expensive bummer. After all, protecting against a big expense like this is why you buy insurance in the first place.
Reply: Do faulty boilers cause puffbacks? No, oil burner problems, oil piping leaks, or chimney maintenance troubles are the root cause of puffbacks.
A competent onsite inspection by an expert usually finds additional clues that help accurately diagnose a problem with or cause of malfunction in a heating boiler. That said, here are some things to consider:
Your quotation from your insurance company stating that the puffback was caused by a "defective heating boiler" is confusing because it is not a precisely correct description of heating equipment puffback problems.
The explanation we offer of the mechanism of a puffback in oil fired heating equipment is more detailed than a typical insurance adjuster would offer even if s/he understood the cause of puffbacks, but our explanation is also the correct one.
Our photo (above left) shows soot fragments on top of a water heater that was installed close to an oil-fired heating boiler that was not operating properly - the same boiler whose soot was deposited on the garage ceiling and walls in our earlier photo just above.
Failure to notice and do something about this sooty boiler operation is a failure to notice and correct a boiler operation or maintenance problem.
We ran natural gas from the road to our home( long distance). We built a beautiful fireplace with cabinets.
Go to two years. My house walls, windows ceiling are blacked. Yesterday my heart became more burdened. I was getting cobwebs down and noticed that my entire bedroom walls were covered with a heavy dust. My fan and light are black. Now it’s time to use my fireplace again.
My house can’t get any more dirty. We had a man come and adjust the opening where I guess the gas come out. I this didn’t work. We are ordering g new logs today. I have cleaned them but I don’t know what to do.
We bought this gas heater out of a home and they were using it. Do I get a new one or what kind if company would work on this gas heater. We don’t have a gas store where I live. We have called our gas company and they don’t have any numbers of companies. Sad On 2017-10-27 by Edie
by (mod) - sooting natural gas is not an oil burner puffback but it is very dangerous risking fatal CO poisoning
Edie:
Watch out: Black soot from a gas appliance is VERY dangerous, as it's a sign of incomplete combustion and a risk of potentially fatal carbon monoxide poisoning. Be sure that you have properly located, installed, and tested CO and smoke detectors. Turn off the heater, and call for repair by a local gas appliance service company.
My old Trianco boiler was seviced this week and the engineer changed the air flow incorrectly causing bad misfire. Came back to change settings back to what is was previously but still did not solve problem.
Then third visit by a supposedly more experience engineer. Seemed to be running weel when he was here. Following day boiler did not fire up on start (reset light on).
On nexr start up attemp there was a big blowback blowing the flue off the the top of the boiler and the top off the chimney! Obviously not happy at all but where do I go now?
This is obviously going to cost me big to repair the chimney and flue even if the boiler is still alive! Any suggestions as I'm sure I want these guys any where near my place after this! On 2017-09-24 by Nigel
by (mod) - more causes of oil burner puffbacks
Nigel,
There are a number of problems that can cause the puff back malfunction that you described. I can't list them all off the cuff and besides your on-site expert needs to look and find the actual problem.Examples however include insufficient combustion air into the space where the burner is operating, or even a leaky or incorrectly installed or incorrectly selected oil burner nozzle or nozzle adapter.
Even a small air leak in the oil line can cause the problem that you described. So can I block chimney or flu.
So Further investigation by an experienced service technician is needed to check out the basic metrics such as combustion air, flame pattern, draft, in order to get an idea of the direction to look for the problem. Let me know what you're told and I can come in further.
My Super,Last Summer Fired Up The Boiler,My Sisters Apartment is on the 5 th floor,She Has Holes in Her Ceiling,The Entire Apartment,was Filled with Boiler Fumes,
Now, The Fumes shoot out of the chimney,before this genius,the fumes were 1 ft above the chimney,now,they re 10 feet in the air,Did something go on the 5 th floor as far as the chimney,a plate or something else? On 2017-04-08 by john niemela
by (mod) - If a heating system chimney is leaking
John
If a heating system chimney is leaking anything - including exhaust or fumes - into the building, the chimney and heating system are unsafe, risking fire and (particularly when gas fired equipment is being vented into a flue) fatal carbon monoxide poisoning.
Watch out: I can't diagnose your situation by e-text but from what you describe there are serious, possibly fatal safety hazards in the building - the management, occupants, etc. need to know that immediately.
What's the cause of oil burner getting on fire. Dark some from the chimney, co2 inside if house...High levels. After the cleanup and service been performed..Still can smell burning oil...that's 3 days later.(Apr 3, 2017) Maria said:
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Maria
I'm not sure if you are asking about a fire at the oil burner or a chimney fire.
Watch out: But it sounds as if your heating system is unsafe and should be turned off immediately,
then call your heating company, speak to the service manager, tell her that your system was just serviced but that now it is smoking, not working, and had to be shut down to avoid risking a puffback explosion.
We have an Olsen oil furnace that is not firing when we turn up the thermostat. went down to the furnace, and pressed the red reset button once on the beckett motor. it ran for about 30 seconds while smoke emanated from the ductwork going into furnace. quickly filled crawlspace with smoke.
shut off the burner switch and put the thermostat at 0. any thoughts on whats going on? (Oct 14, 2017) Nick said:
Reply: it ran for about 30 seconds while smoke emanated from the ductwork going into furnace
Gary and Nick:
Watch out: LEAVE THE BOILER OFF right away to avoid a puffback explosion.
Most-likely the automatic oil line shutoff valve/check valve in your fuel unit (oil burner pump) is sticking open. Sometimes we make a temp fix by adding an oil delay/stop valve on the line between the fuel unit and the burner nozzle oil line inlet.
I have a oil fed hot water heater, the primary ignition relay malfunctioned , causing the hot water heater to have excessive amount of fuel inside furnace chamber.
I cleaned as much of it. replaced the primary ignition ,When restarted the hot water heater spews dark gray smoke from chimney, also noticed when I shut hot water heater off,
I ck'd access hole to furnace(hot water) there was a fire inside. I put out fire with water. I need help - Matt
Reply: flooding the water heater ignited unburned heating oil and risked a "puffback" - clean or R&R oil-soaked combustion chambers before re-igniting the burner
Matt, fresh out of oil burner school we were always terrified about lighting off an oil burner into a previously flooded combustion chamber and flat wouldn't do it if we hadn't cleaned the system and even removed/replaced oil-soaked combustion chamber liners.
And if the chimney was of unknown condition we'd have it inspected (Chimscan, the works) - even so, it was not unusual to call the fire department and have them on stand-by: that's what we were taught to do.
The first time I called the fire department to ask them to go on stand by while we fired up the boiler, the fire department operator said "maybe you should get someone in there who knows what they're doing" - which didn't inspire much confidence.
Now that you've had a fire you really cannot safely turn the equipment back on before an expert inspects the chimney and flue for safety;
A modest oil residue in the combustion chamber can be burned off. But a really flooded chamber deserved to be disassembled and cleaned or replaced.
I had a problem this past spring with black soot throughout my home. We had 2 different companies plus a mechanical engineer come in to determine that the furnace was fine and that the cause of the black soot in the house was from the power vent.
We got the house cleaned by a fire cleanup services company and all the rooms were painted because they couldn't get the soot all out. We replaced the power vent with a chimney.
I am beside myself that I have again found the black soot coating white plastic containers in my kitchen cupboards. I have contacted a materials lab and was told that I would need a good amount of the soot in order for them to test it. This could take a very long time to collect because it's a black film that smears.
I don't know what else to do or who to turn to for help. I can't go through what we did this past spring. Do you have any thoughts and or recommendations as to what I can do? Thank you for your time! (Dec 5, 2014) Amy said:
Reply:
Sorry to read about this soot Amy - perhaps the original diagnosis was erroneous. After all, a sooting-up oil fired heating system can clog a power vent just as it can clog a flue vent connector, heat exchanger, or chimney.
You need help from a trained and experienced heating service tech.
Let me know what you're told.
Is it possible for a malfunctioning oil furnace to be the cause of an oily smell in an adjacent building that has gas boilers? I own a brownstone with four apartments. The building has four gas boilers but the attached brownstone next door has an oil furnace.
There is a smell of oil particularly in the ground floor apartment that is worse on very cold days.
The smell began with the very cold weather about six weeks ago. The fire department and gas company have ruled out a gas leak and the boilers have been inspected.
There is also a smoky looking streak on a wall where
a wall and floor come together but it is not on a wall adjacent to the building with oil heat.
The smell has been described as oily, a chemical electrical smell, and a burned out candle smell. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. (Feb 21, 2015) Landlord said:
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Land
It's a fair question but not one that I think we can diagnose from just an e text. A thoughtful onsite inspection may help. Start at the oil storage and piping system, oil burner operation, and possible fuel or fours gas pathways.
Landlord said:
Thank you for your response.Given that I do not own the oil furnace in question or have ready access to it, an inspection is not easy to do currently.
The question now is this: given the information in the first message, is there enough evidence to inform the neighbor with the oil furnace that the furnace may need attention?
Could there be a danger to my tenants from this oil furnace? If so, Is there a city/ government agency (in NYC) that follows up on a situation like this? Thank you for any advice you can offer.
Reply:
Land:
I really would like to help but with no actual information about the property I can't buy enough liability insurance (don't have any at all) to bet your safety or that of others by speculating when I am flying so blind.
It's fair to say that if there are gas odors in a building most people can identify that accurately as the odorants in natural gas or LP gas are rather recognizable - and that'd be enough to raise a safety concern. You say there have already been expert inspections, leaving me confounded.
NYC agencies involved include the fire department, building department, and the NYC Housing Department
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