Clogged or blocked plumbing vents as a cause of sewer or septic system odors:
Diagnose odors traced to clogged, frozen or snow-covered plumbing vents. This article describes the causes of blocked plumbing vents & resulting smells & odors in and around buildings; why do some plumbing vents get blocked in freezing weather? Effects of snow cover on plumbing system vents & odors. Plumbing drain trap siphonage, odors, noises due to clogged plumbing vents.
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If in cold weather a plumbing vent pipe is frosting up, sewer gases may vent backwards out through building drains. In that case, even re-priming building drain traps won't prevent sewer gas entry as flushing a toilet or running a nearby drain can siphon water out of a nearby trap.
[Illustration provided courtesy Carson Dunlop Associates.]
A thoughtful reader, Jill Elwert, suggested insulating the vent piping to try to delay vent pipe blockage by freezing moisture. We are afraid that even if you insulate the vent line in a cold attic, it'll freeze above the roof surface outdoors. You could try it but if that proves the problem, ultimately you'll want to have a plumber or handyman install a 2" or larger diameter vent from the attic floor up through the roof.
See REMEDIES for SEWER ODORS, PLUMBING.
See PLUMBING VENT DEFECTS & NOISESfor diagnostic details.
I hear about the need to clear vents in the house in this snow, but can't find anything about when the septic vent pipes are buried in snow -- do those need to be dug out?
Rose,
My OPINION is that the answer is ... it depends.
On what your sewer piping connects to and where you live.
For example: North Dakota State University has advised that in deep-snow-winter weather, blocked sewer vents can cause a [dangerous in my opinion] sewer gas backup in homes that can "make people sick" (sewer gas is also explosive). - see "Clogged vents can lead to sewer gas backup, which can make you or your family ill.", Roxanne Johnson, Water Quality Associate, (2011), - ag.ndsu.edu
Johnson also notes that deep snow on a roof can block the roof vents of the plumbing system too; indeed I've published photos of that condition here at InspectApedia.
Recently, in New York, dealing with deep snow and ice dam leaks on a flat roof, we had what seems to me a clever solution: having to make an emergency "repair' by adding a heat tape to a leaky roof we just stuck an extra length of the heating tape cable into the rooftop plumbing vent stack. That small amount of heat won't damage the plastic piping of the vent, and the heat can avoid a frost-blocked plumbing vent that can occur in freezing weather whether there is deep snow cover or not.
Freezing weather can cause a complete blockage of a plumbing vent stack by frost that forms inside the portion of the vent that extends outdoors above the roof, or by deep snow cover that completely covers a short plumbing vent.
For example steam from long showers moves up the vent pipe where it freezes in the pipe section extending above the building roof.
The absence of venting (missing or blocked) causes plumbing trap siphonage and loss of water in building traps. (Water flowing down a drain line without a nearby supply of makeup air to follow the water creates a vacuum that pulls water out of nearby plumbing traps. Flushing a toilet can siphon out a nearby sink or tub trap.)
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When the water seal is lost from a plumbing trap sewer gases can back up out of that fixture and not just smell bad. Sewer gases contain methane which is an explosive gas - possibly quite dangerous. In addition to occasional methane gas explosions inside buildings, I've had a report of an outdoor septic tank explosion too when an owner built a brush fire atop the tank.
Sketch above courtesy of Carson Dunlop Associates, a Toronto home inspection, education & report writing tool company [ carsondunlop.com ].
In sum, dry plumbing traps are caused by evaporation at an unused fixture, leaks at the trap, or siphonage due to improper plumbing vent line installation. Dry traps can leak smelly or dangerous sewer gases into a building.
Check for dry plumbing traps, particularly at un-used basement or lower floor fixtures and at floor drains which might be connected to the sewer line. "Dry trap" means that there is no water in the trap bend or weir.
See PLUMBING VENT DEFECTS & NOISESfor diagnostic details of venting problems
and see PLUMBING FIXTURE TRAPS for fixture trap inspection and defect diagnosis.
Also see METHANE GAS SOURCES and
See PLUMBING DRAIN NOISES where we explain the basics of proper plumbing vent piping and how errors cause trap siphonage, odors, and noises
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Below you will find questions and answers previously posted on this page at its page bottom reader comment box.
On 2020-11-28 - by (mod) -
Martha
If you think that the owner is coming out of dry Plumbing traps in a seldom-used bathroom you might try just pouring enough mineral oil into the drain to fill the Trap.
That won't evaporate and so it will reduce the odor problem. Let me know if that works for you.
On 2020-11-28 by Martha Schultz
We have a second bathroom that we don't use too much. When the weather turns colder septic/sewer smells start coming up from the bathtub drain,shower head and sink drains. Should we start using this bathroom more on a regular basis so the drains will not dry out and cause odor?
On 2019-08-10 - by (mod) -
I guess damage is possible, particularly at that check valve.
But your traps ought all to be water-filled so once everything's cleaned-up there ought to be no further odor.
On 2019-08-10 by mark
we had a sewage blockage and had to snake the drains with a commercial electric snake.
We cleared it but directly following tht we had sewage smells in our bathroom and near the drainpipes its a 1029 house on town water and sewage.
could we have damaged something with the snake? is there a vent flap where our drain meets the main town drain?
On 2018-01-05 - by (mod) -
Don
Check out also these COLD WEATHER SEWER ODORS diagnostic descriptions https://inspectapedia.com/odor_diagnosis/Sewer_Odors_Cold_Weather_Sources.php
On 2018-01-05 by don
Smelling sewer gas when temp dropped to 0. Only thing done recently is "Had a vent boot changed to a lead soil stack covering.
thinking blocked soil stack by ice
On 2017-06-23 by Monika
Hi ...actually really worried can't get my answer ...the thing is water is draining everywhere
but still I can feel some smell..earlier it was like septic smell then poured vinegar baking soda and some other things now foul smell is still there ...
in the night when I sit in my master bedroom I can smell the same duck gel which I used a long back ago to freshen the toilet ...don't know what to do my head is spinning ...we have 3 air vent 2air vents are open but one is covered with concrete slab ...is it because of that ?
On 2017-02-12 - by (mod) -
Most-often the problem is a clogged main drain line.
On 2017-02-12 by Cathy
Sewer is backing up in my downstairs toilet....the water is seeping slowly...what could the problem be
On 2015-09-29 by josh
Strong odor coming from vents on the roof vent pipes but only when it gets cool outside and have checked vents and they are not clogged
On 2015-08-03 - by (mod) -
If the toilet is not flushing properly in just some circumstances I'd check to see that the tank and bowl are filling to the proper flush level. Inadequate water volume can cause poor toilet flushing.
Once that's resolved we can discuss leaky toilet seals or vents.
On 2015-08-03 by Richard
Sewer gasses rush up the toilet waste pipe (in my bathroom) when flushing stool and not when flushing urine.
Please advise how to perform problem determination and fix the problem. It seems that a bladder infection has resulted in me. My wife's toilet is NOT affected nor is the downstairs toilet.
I read your article and I would like to explain my problem to see if I have come up with the problem. I live in Cheyenne Wyoming and when it is very cold (below 25 degrees Far.) we get a very strong raw sewage odor from our basement bathroom. I have narrowed it down to the bathtub.
We did not finish the basement, it was finished when we moved in. The odor was not disclosed to us when we moved in 3 years ago and this winter it is worse but it is colder.
We have smelled it every winter since we moved in. Now tonight I decided to try an experiment
. I closed the drain on the tub and put water in the tub and this seemed to fix the problem
. So my opinion is that they did not put a "P" trap on the tub. So what do you think?
I do not smell the odor from the sink, the toilet, or the floor drains.
Thank you - John 12/6/11
John,
There may be a corroded leaky P-trap that thus doesn't maintain its water seal. Try pouring water into the trap and inspect with a good light to see if it remains in the drain; Unfortunately some demo and digging may be in order to fix this odor source.
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