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NO HEAT - NO HOT WATER: HEATER DIAGNOSIS
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RELIEF VALVES - Water Heaters
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THERMAL EXPANSION of HOT WATER
THERMOSTATS, WATER HEATER
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WATER HEATERS for HOME HEATING USE?
WATER ODORS, CAUSE CURE
WATER PIPES, Clogs Leaks Types
WATER PRESSURE TOO HIGH: DANGERS
WATER PRESSURE LOSS DIAGNOSIS & REPAIR
WATER QUANTITY IMPROVEMENT
WATER SOFTENERS & CONDITIONERS
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How to get more hot water: this article explains how to improve the total quantity of hot water available from your water heating system. Here we discuss How much hot water do we get out of a hot water heater tank? How to improve hot water water quantity from any water heater. We explain how to increase the total hot water quantity available from your water heater and how to improve the hot water flow rate if your hot water runs too slowly. We also discuss how much hot water to expect from your water heater.
We make hot water quantity improvement suggestions here and we also give a list of detailed diagnostic articles to fix insufficient hot water quantity or flow.
Key to articles describing steps to improve hot water quantity such as how to use extra water storage tanks to pre-heat hot water or to increase hot water quantity, switching to a high efficiency water heater, suggestions for saving on water heating, a cost guide to adding insulation to hot water piping & insulating water heater tanks, and how to use larger diameter supply piping to increase hot water quantity and flow at plumbing fixtures.
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Thanks to Carson Dunlop, a Toronto Home Inspection Firm and Home Inspection Educator, for permission to use sketches shown in this article.
Before you start fixing or buying stuff to fix a hot water problem hot water problems and diagnostic guides for all kinds of hot water troubles are summarized at WATER HEATER PROBLEM DIAGNOSIS. You might want to check there to be sure you're fixing the right problem.
Question: My 40 gallon hot water tank is not giving me 40 gallons of really hot water. Why?
How much hot water should I expect from my new 50 gallon hot water heater? I'm getting 32 gallons before the next 4 gallon bucket starts cooling and runs cold. - J.
Reply: List of factors that determine how much hot water you get out of a water heater tank
You didn't indicate the type of water heater. If your heater is electric, and if the lower heating element has burned out, the total quantity of hot water from the heater would be significantly reduced. (By contrast if the upper element is burned out the total quantity may not be reduced but the temperature of the hot water will be lower).
Some other factors that determine just how much hot water you get out of a water heater of a given size (that is without changing the size of the water heater tank) are:
Having a greater quantity of hot water (more total hot water volume available) also opens the way to taking steps to improve hot water pressure and flow rate in a building. On the other hand, if we increase hot water pressure or flow but lack adequate hot water quantity, the result is we just run out of hot water faster than ever. The approach to improving hot water quantity itself involves these ideas:
Hot Water Quantity Diagnosis & Improvement Articles
As Carson Dunlop Associates' illustration (left) shows, one way to improve hot quantity in a building is by hooking up more than one water heater, in parallel or in series.
The articles listed below offer more details about steps one can take to increase hot water quantity, pressure, and flow in a building.
Below we list hot water quantity, pressure & flow problem diagnosis, repair, and improvement articles. For each item we describe how the topic pertains to hot water quantity, pressure, or flow complaints.
The list below is in alphabetic order, not in order of priority of things to try. Diagnosis and repair for hot water temperature and more about hot water pressure are explained separately at HOT WATER IMPROVEMENTS.
As we illustrate with Carson Dunlop's sketch, it is possible to install multiple active water heaters in a parallel design for simple increase in total hot water quantity, or these tanks could have been installed in series, leaving the first or up-stream tank turned off when less hot water need was anticipated.
Leaving a hot water tank turned "off" can still cut water heating costs a bit, as we discuss next.
Passive water pre-warming tank: Use a water tank or hot water tank or old water heater tank installed upstream from water entering the tankless coil (or primary water heating tank, whatever water heating method is used). Remove insulation from the holding or staging tank. Water sitting in this tank will absorb water from the indoor environment and in most locales will be warmer than water coming directly from a well or municipal water supply.
Often people will simply salvage an old water tank and use it for this purpose. By pre-warming water headed for the tankless coil, the coil itself will not have to raise the water temperature as much as otherwise. Thus when the occupants are drawing hot water in the building, heat will be drawn out of the heating boiler at the coil at a slower rate - you'll have more domestic hot water.
Active water pre-heating tank: install a water heater (oil, gas, solar, electric) on the water piping upstream, that is, before water enters the tankless coil (or primary water heating tank, whatever water heating method is used).
This water tank can be left off when there is not much demand for hot water, in which case it will function as a passive water pre-warming tank as we discussed above. When a greater quantity of hot water is going to be needed (say many weekend visitors to a building), turn on the water heater to permit it to "boost" hot water headed for the tankless coil.
As occupants in the building draw hot water out of the system, heat will be drawn from the heating boiler and tankless coil at a very low rate, possibly not at all, until we've exhausted the hot water that was stored in the separate water heater tank.
Some people install this system backwards: hot water is fed from the tankless coil into a water heater tank. This is a much less efficient way to make hot water as all of the water entering the water heater tank will always cause the heating boiler to run. We do not recommend this arrangement.
In our photo at left our client is pointing out that foam insulation applied over the hot water pipe leaving the water heater was placed too close to the water heater draft hood. Spillage at the draft hood was melting the water pipe insulation - indicating an unsafe flue gas spillage problem.
The length of hot water supply pipe running between the building hot water source and the building faucet or fixture where hot water is being delivered will affect the temperature of water received there.
A long run of un-insulated hot water pipe will deliver cooler water than a well-insulated water supply pipe of any length.
The reason that insulation on hot water piping increases the total hot water quantity (and temperature) is that the hot water is not giving up so much of its heat in the form of radiant losses during movement of hot water from the water tank to the destination plumbing fixture.
The foam insulation on hot water lines (or hot water heating pipes) in our photo at left is readily available at building supply stores.
This foam pipe insulation is purchased according to the diameter of the pipe it is going to cover. In residential applications that's usually 1/2" pipe or 3/4" copper or galvanized steel pipe. The insulation is split so that it can be simply pushed onto the pipe that is to be insulated.
Also see our advice and safety warnings about water tank insulation at INSULATE HOT WATER TANK?.
In fact you can improve hot water flow in a building by replacing only part of the supply piping - perhaps that portion which is easily accessible. Installing larger water supply piping feeding the water heater may alone improve the hot water pressure and flow in the building.
Watch out: if your hot water is provided by a tankless coil, increasing water pipe diameter may not be of much use, and it could make matters worse!
A tankless coil (and also an instantaneous water heater) is normally rated by its manufacturer as capable of increasing water temperature to a desired level only if water flow through the coil is limited to a specific rate, perhaps 5 gpm. Flowing water through the tankless coil or instantaneous water heater too fast will mean that the water temperature may be too low at the fixture.
In sum, larger diameter piping increases water pressure and flow. It does not increase the total volume of hot water that is available from a water heater. This improvement may be of most value where water pressure is poor and where water piping has previously become clogged by rust or mineral deposits.
You may regain some of this loss by insulating hot water supply piping or by setting water heater or boiler temperatures higher as well as by an adjustment at the Mixing Valve.
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