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WATER HEATERS

AGE of WATER HEATERS
AIRBOUND HEAT SYSTEM REPAIRS
ALTERNATIVE HOT WATER SOURCES
  Electric Shower Heaters
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  Indirect-fired Water Heaters
  Instantaneous Water Heaters
  Multiple water heaters in parallel
  Multiple water heaters in series
  Range Boiler Water Heaters
  Side Arm Coil Water Heaters
  Solar Water Heaters
  Tankless Coil for Hot Water
  Tankless Water Heaters
ANODES & DIP TUBES on WATER HEATERS
ANTI SCALD VALVES
APPLIANCE EFFICIENCY RATINGS
AQUASTAT CONTROL Functions

BACKDRAFTING HEATING EQUIPMENT
BACKFLOW PREVENTER VALVE, HEATING SYS
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BACKUP HEAT for HEAT PUMPS
BLEVE EXPLOSIONS
BOILERS, HEATING

CARBON MONOXIDE - CO
CHECK VALVES, WATER SUPPLY
CHEMICAL CONTAMINANTS in WATER
CHIMNEY INSPECTION DIAGNOSIS REPAIR
CLOGGED DRAIN DIAGNOSIS & REPAIR
CLOGGED SUPPLY PIPING
CROSS CONNECTIONS, PLUMBING

DEBRIS in WATER SUPPLY, Water Heater
DRAIN a WATER HEATER TANK

ELECTRIC WATER HEATERS
  Electric, Gas, Oil Water Heater Efficiency
  Electric Shower Heaters
  Electric Water Heater Checklist
  Electric Water Heater Controls List
  Electric Water Heater Element Replacement
  Electric Water Heater Element Tests
  Electric Water Heater High Temp Cutoff Test
  Electric Water Heater Repair Guide
  Electric Water Heater Reset Switch
  Electric Water Heater Thermostats
  Electric Water Heater No Hot Water
  Electric Water Heater Parts Identification
  Electric Water Heater Reset & Temp Set
  Hot Water Temperature & Pressure Valve
  Timers for Electric Water Heaters
  Water Heater Anode & Dip Tube Check

ENERGY SAVINGS in buildings

FLOODED HEATING EQUIPMENT REPAIR
FLOODED WATER HEATER REPAIR
FREEZE-PROOF A BUILDING
FROST HEAVES, FOUNDATION, SLAB

GALVANIC SCALE & METAL CORROSION
GAS BURNER Flame & Noise Defects
GAS FIRED WATER HEATERS
  DRAFT HOODS - gas fired
  Gas BTUH & Cubic Feet
  Gas Conversion LP Natural Gas
  GAS PIPING, VALVES, CONTROLS
  SOOT on OIL FIRED HEATING EQUIPMENT
  SPILL SWITCHES - Flue Gas Detection
GAS PIPING, VALVES, CONTROLS

HEAT TAPES, Heat, Insulation prevent Freeze-Up
HEATING COST FUEL & BTU Cost Table
HEATING COST SAVINGS METHODS
HEATING SYSTEMS

HOT WATER SUPPLY
HOT WATER IMPROVEMENTS
HOT WATER DELIVERY SPEED UP
HOT WATER EFFICIENCY IMPROVEMENT
HOT WATER PRESSURE EXPANSION RATE
HOT WATER PRESSURE LOSS
HOT WATER PROBLEM DIAGNOSIS
HOT WATER QUANTITY IMPROVEMENT
  Alternative Hot Water Sources & Methods
  Anti-Scald Valves & Hot Water Quantity
  CLOGGED PIPING & Hot Water Flow
  Extra Tanks to Increase Hot Water
  Insulate Hot Water Piping
  Insulate Hot Water Tank?
  Larger Diameter Water Supply Piping
  Water pipe clog diagnosis
  Water pipe clog repair guide
HYDROGEN SULFIDE GAS

INDIRECT FIRED WATER HEATERS

MANUALS & PARTS GUIDES - HVAC
MIXING / ANTI-SCALD VALVES

NO HEAT - NO HOT WATER: HEATER DIAGNOSIS
NOISE / SOUND DIAGNOSIS & CURE
NOISE CONTROL for HEATING SYSTEMS
NOISE, PLUMBING CHECKLIST
NOISE, WATER HEATER

ODORS GASES SMELLS, DIAGNOSIS & CURE
ODORS IN WATER
OIL FIRED WATER HEATERS

PIPING IN buildings, Clogs Leaks Types
PLASTIC HEATER VENT

RADIANT HEAT
RANGE BOILERS
RELIEF VALVES - TP Valves on Boilers
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RELIEF VALVES - Water Tanks

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SEWER GAS ODORS
SOLAR ENERGY SYSTEMS
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SOOT on OIL FIRED HEATING EQUIPMENT
SPILL SWITCHES - Flue Gas Detection

TANKLESS COILS
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TANKLESS WATER HEATERS
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  Life Expectancy & Applications

Temperature Pressure Relief Valves - Water Heaters
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  AQUASTAT CONTROL Functions
  Electric Water Heater Thermostats
TIMERS for ELECTRIC WATER HEATERS

VALVES, PLUMBING

WATER CONTAMINANT LEVELS
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WATER HEATERS
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  WATER HEATER EFFICIENCY

WATER HEATER SCALE - De-Liming Procedure
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WATER HEATERS for HOME HEATING USE?

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  Definition of Static Water Pressure
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  Measure Municipal Water Pressure
  Measure Pump & Well Water Pressure
  WATER FLOW RATE MEASUREMENT
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WATER PRESSURE REPAIR GUIDE - WELLS
WATER PUMPS, TANKS, TESTS, WELLS, REPAIRS
WATER PUMPS & WELLS
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WATER QUALITY TESTS, CONTAMINANTS, TREATMENT
WATER QUANTITY IMPROVEMENT
WATER SOFTENERS & CONDITIONERS
WINTERIZE A BUILDING

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Indirect fired hot water heater schematicGuide to Indirect-Fired Hot Water Heaters
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  • Description of Indirect-Fired or "remote" Hot Water Heaters - water tanks heated by a connection to a heating boiler or other heat source.
  • How to obtain more hot water quantity, pressure, flow, at less cost
  • Options for replacement of tankless coils as domestic hot water source
  • Questions & answers about indirect-fired hot water heaters

Indirect water heater properties: here we define and explain indirect-fired hot water heaters, describing the characteristics & advantages of this method for making domestic hot water where a gas or oil fired heating boiler is installed.

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Installing an indirect-fired water heater

Thanks to Carson Dunlop, a Toronto Home Inspection Firm and Home Inspection Educator, for permission to use sketches shown in this article.

Below we describe some alternative ways to make hot water, either to replace or to supplement an existing hot water supply system. After knowing what the hot water problem really is, there are steps we can take to get more hot water or to increase hot water pressure.

Indirect fired hot water heater schematic

As we explain at TANKLESS COILS, a conventional tankless coil system imbeds a finned copper tube coil inside of the hot heating boiler water, running domestic cold water through the tankless coil where physically separated boiler water heats the coil and thus heats water passing through the coil.

An indirect-fired water heater also uses a finned-copper tube coil in a different approach to providing more domestic hot water.

In our photo at left, the white Super Stor™ tank is an indirect-fired water heater. Water in this tank is heated by a plumbing loop circulating hot boiler water through a heating coil in the bottom of the Super Stor™ water heater tank.

Indirect fired water heaters: In some other buildings domestic hot water is produced by cycling hot water from a hydronic or steam boiler through a loop inside of a steel tank. The water in the tank is heated by the water in the coil.

Modern systems using this approach use the term indirect-fired water heater and such systems are sold by various companies such as the SuperStorTM unit shown here as the white tank to the right of the heating boiler.

You may also notice the WellXTrolTM blue water tank off to the left of the boiler as well as in the left foreground covered partly by a cardboard box we have a white-yellow fiberglass close to the thin blue vertical water softener - water treatment equipment in the same photo. And just to be complete, the little tank over the boiler next to our service technician is the expansion tank for this heating boiler.

Indirect fired water heater tanks for domestic hot water, such as the SuperStorTM are usually located close to the heating boiler and will have both cold and hot water lines leaving the tank to supply the building with domestic hot water and a loop of piping that runs between the [usually the] bottom of the tank and a nearby heating boiler. Follow the pipes to see which pipes are performing which function.

The difference between Range Boiler Water Heaters and Indirect-fired Water Heaters is in the details. The heat exchanger that heats water in the range boiler is in or at the heating boiler. The water in an indirect fired water heater such as the SuperStorTM unit is heated by a finned copper coil located inside the hot water tank. The internal coil is in turn heated by circulating water inside the coil to and from the heating boiler. The range boiler is an old concept in use for about 100 years. Indirect fired water heaters are a modern system and are in current sales and use.

Plumbing Connections for an Indirect Fired Water Heater

Indirect fired water heater plumbing hookup (C) Daniel Friedman

Where an indirect-fired water heater is installed, the coil is inserted not in the heating boiler, but rather in the bottom of a hot water tank. You can see this design in our photo at left (the blue tank is the indirect fired water heater) and also in our sketch at page top, provided courtesy of Carson Dunlop.

Water from the heating boiler (not domestic cold water) is circulated from the boiler, through the coil, and back to the heating boiler. The coil, in turn, heats water stored in the separate hot water tank.

This installation is a bit fancy: the blue indirect fired water heater is heated by the gray Weil McLain™ oil fired heating boiler.

The blue water heater tank is in turn being used in this case to provide a big reservoir of hot water to a water-to-air heating coil installed in the light gray/tan air handler at far left in the photo. This home uses that air handler for both central air conditioning and also for heat. Other pipes connected to the Weil McLain boiler may indicate that that boiler also provides hot water heat to some building areas. (Click on the photo for details).

But the principle is the same. Hot water from the blue indirect-fired water heater tank could have just as well been used to provide domestic hot water for washing and bathing as well as for heating the water-to-air heating system, as well as serving both purposes.

Controls on Indirect Fired Water Heaters

Extrol water heater, indirect fired (C) Daniel FriedmanAn indirect fired water heater such as the Super Stor™ or Extrol™ water heater (shown at left) unit will include a temperature control that is usually mounted on the water tank itself.

When the hot water temperature drops below the control set point, the control will turn on a circulator pump that will cycle hot boiler water through the heating coil inside of the Super Stor™ tank.

The indirect-fired water heater does not itself turn on the heating boiler. Rather, when temperatures inside the separate heating boiler drop below a low limit (or hot water maintenance level) set on the heating boiler's own control, that system will turn on its burner to re-heat the boiler water directly.

Efficiency of Indirect Fired Water Heaters

An indirect-fired water heater is a more efficient way to use a home heating boiler to make domestic hot water. Why? Because the heating boiler will run less often, and when it does run, it will have a longer "on" cycle (as it has to heat up the tank of hot water). Both of these conditions are a more efficient way to burn home heating oil than using a tankless coil.

In sum, during the heating season, when a heating boiler is likely to be "hot" most of the time anyway because it is heating the home, a tankless coil installed on a heating boiler is a reasonable way to obtain some domestic hot water from the system, though in most installations a tankless coil will not be able to produce as much hot water for as long a time period as what we can obtain from a separate water heater.

But an indirect-fired water heater always makes more efficient use of the home heating boiler, year round. And since the consumer can decide how big a hot water tank she wants, 50 or even 100 gallons of hot water can be kept in reserve. More than we can normally obtain from a conventional domestic tankless coil on a heating boiler.

Readers should also read Range Boiler Water Heaters where we describe an older type of indirect-fired water heating system installed at many older homes.

The characteristics of various water heaters such as life expectancy, cost, safety, and capacity are discussed at WATER HEATER PROBLEM DIAGNOSIS
WATER HEATER PROPERTIES

Ways to improve hot water quantity, pressure, and flow are discussed beginning at HOT WATER IMPROVEMENTS and continuing at HOT WATER QUANTITY IMPROVEMENT.

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ALTERNATIVE HOT WATER SOURCES
  Electric Shower Heaters
  High Efficiency Water Heaters
  Indirect-fired Water Heaters
  Instantaneous Water Heaters
  Multiple water heaters in parallel
  Multiple water heaters in series
  Range Boiler Water Heaters
  Side Arm Coil Water Heaters
  Solar Water Heaters
  Tankless Coil for Hot Water
  Tankless Water Heaters

  • Carson, Dunlop & Associates Ltd., 120 Carlton Street Suite 407, Toronto ON M5A 4K2. (416) 964-9415 1-800-268-7070 info@carsondunlop.com. Thanks to Alan Carson and Bob Dunlop, for permission to use illustrations from their publication, The Illustrated Home which illustrates construction details and building components. Carson Dunlop provides home inspection education including the ASHI-adopted Home Inspection Training Program (home study course), publications such as the Home Reference Book, report writing materials including the Horizon report writer, and home inspection services. Alan Carson is a past president of ASHI, the American Society of Home Inspectors.

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