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Steam heating system condensate pumps & piping: this article describes and illustrates steam condensate return piping, condensate return pumps and steam condensate return reservoirs.

We also discuss leaks in steam condensate piping lines and chemical treatment of steam condensate.

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Guide to Condensate Return Pumps & Condensate Systems on Residential Steam Heating Systems

Steam condensate return pump system © D Friedman at InspectApedia.com

Where condensate is unable to flow by gravity back to the steam boiler, a reservoir tank (under our client's hand at left) receives condensate from a low point in the building.

A float control and small pump moves condensate back to the steam boiler.

In the condensate receiver system shown in our photograph and on similar systems we have inspected in which the steam boiler is sometimes not even in the same building as the condensate receiving system, a control on the receiver sends water back to the boiler.

Condensate return pumps are also needed even when the steam boiler is in the same building, if condensate collection and piping are at locations too low to drain by gravity back to the steam boiler.

Watch out: where a separate condensate receiver is used, a feed pump to move condensate back to the boiler must be energized by a boiler-mounted condensate return pump controller. - Weil McLain 78

This steam system includes a plastic tank and injector pump used for chemical treatment of the steam condensate.

When the float in the condensate return tank activates the condensate return pump, that same circuit activates the small chemical injector pump mounted on top of the plastic reservoir at the right in our photograph.

See CHEMICAL TREATMENTS, BOILER

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Our photo above illustrates a steam condensate return pump system in a New York home.

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Some Sources of Trouble in the Steam Condensate Return System

Condensate return line leak © D Friedman at InspectApedia.com Watch out: problems such as blockages or leaks in steam condensate return systems can have various causes and can originate in many areas including at least these:

Corrosion on Steam Piping & Corrosion Control by Chemical Treatment of Condensate or Water

Steam condensate return pump system © D Friedman at InspectApedia.com

Our second steam condensate return system (left) shows the reservoir and condensate pump motor (grey pump and new piping on the right side of the condensate reservoir at the left in that picture).

Steam condensate may be corrosive due to an improper pH level of the building water supply, or condensate water may be particularly corrosive to steam piping or to the boiler itself due to the formation of carbonic acid in the condensate liquid.

Carbonic acid itself forms because of the combination of high levels of carbon dioxide CO2 and oxygen in the steam piping system.

Steam piping that is made of copper is also vulnerable to a combination of ammonia and oxygen in the steam condensate.

Chemical treatment of steam condensate is typically done to reduce corrosion in the steam piping.

Other chemical treatments of water in steam boilers may be performed at the boiler itself to adjust the pH of the water or to control levels of corrosive carbonic acid using neutralizing amines or to control oxygen levels. [1]

A second approach to controlling steam system corrosion used particularly in steam systems that use a high volume of make-up water is the use of filming inhibitors or filming amines.

In a third approach to controlling steam system corrosion, water entering steam boilers may also be "de-aerated" by a feed water heater that removes excess oxygen mechanically.

Where do corrosion and leaks most often appear in steam piping?

Corrosion in steam piping is most likely to appear in the sections of steam condensate piping that remain filled with condensate. Those piping sections are found near the steam boiler itself or at steam condensate return reservoirs and pumps.

To control or reduce the corrosion and leaks caused by corrosive steam condensate the steam boiler water may be pre-treated or the condensate may itself be treated as we illustrate in our photo above.

See CHEMICAL TREATMENTS, BOILER for details about additives to control scaling, surging, corrosion, etc. in boilers

Steam condensate return pump details (C) Carson Dunlop Associates at InspectApedia.com

Above: a condensate return pump for a steam heat system is needed when condensate cannot easily flow back to the steam boiler by gravity alone.

Illustration courtesy of courtesy of Carson Dunlop Associates a Toronto home inspection, report writing, and education company. [Click to enlarge any image]

Below: a remote condensate return pump is used in this Poughkeepsie NY home to get condensate from a low condensate drain system back to a boiler located slightly higher in the same basement.

Steam condensate return pump (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com

Corrosivity of Steam Boiler Condensate: Research

Leaks in Steam Condensate Return Piping

Steam condensate return leaks © D Friedman at InspectApedia.com

Our photograph at left shows a leaky steam condensate return line close to the steam boiler.

This steam condensate line leak has been dripping for more than a decade. Unlike a hydronic heating boiler system, because the pressure in the steam condensate return line is low, the leak was not noticed by the homeowner and it was ignored by the heating service technician.

While not all of the piping is clearly visible in this image, you are also looking at part of

a HARTFORD LOOP.

Because steam condensate may be quite corrosive in steam heating systems commercial systems and some residential steam heat systems use additives or water conditioners to minimize those effects.

Without the Hartford Loop properly sized and piped at the condensate return to the boiler, complete loss of boiler water could follow a leak in the condensate line.

In turn, loss of boiler water can destroy the boiler or can lead to catastrophic

BLEVE EXPLOSIONS

Our opinion was that the piping in this steam condensate line section all should be replaced, but it was reasonable to wait until the end of the heating season rather than having to shut down the heater during freezing-cold weather.

Watch out: never pick at corrosion on a heating pipe: we warned the homeowner not to poke or pick at the corrosion on this piping. Disturbing the condensate return pipe was likely to result in a sudden and much larger leak that could leak badly, resulting in basement water problems and increased steam boiler water consumption.

Watch out: a leak in the condensate piping of a steam heating system can lead to very expensive damage including:

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Steam condensate return pump (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.comThe steam condensate reservoir and pump system shown here has had that to which we all aspire: a long and interesting life. The Poughkeepsie NY home where this condensate return system is installed was originally heated by an extensive underground steam pipe network hosted on the Vassar College campus.

This was a faculty-housing home that for many decades supported a program of encouraging Vassar faculty to live on or near the campus, both as a benefit to campus life for students and as an attractant to faculty.

Heat to the home was provided by the college by extending a nearby steam pipe network that was already using steam to heat campus buildings.

OPINION: however when a home owner or occupant does not pay directly for their own heat we often find significant heat waste and little concern for energy conservation.

I suspect that Vassar College found the same because ultimately the home and others like it was disconnected from the original steam piping loop and was given its own in-home steam heating boiler.

When the building was disconnected from the original steam piping loop and a new steam boiler installed, the lowest level of condensate return pipes was located such that steam condensate in this home would not return by gravity to the steam boiler.

So the condensate pump had a second life, continuing in service to return condensate not to Vassar's steam system but locally, to the in-home steam boiler, by piping returning condensate up, across the basement, and down to the new steam boiler.

The small gray box attached to the larger light gray condensate reservoir is a controller that turns the condensate return pump on when the condensate level rises in the reservoir.

Steam condensate return pump (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com

The blue condensate pump motor can be seen to the right of the gray condensate reservoir.

The condensate return pump data tag is so old as to be a bit difficult to read but if you click to enlarge it you will see that this is an ITT Hoffman Pump product sold under the Watchman condensate return pump and steam condensate reservoir brand.

The original pump was rated for 115V 50HZ and bore serial # 160002.

 




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On 2020-10-12 by Patricia - old Vassar Faculty houses on Raymond and are having issues with the ITT Hoffman Pump.

Steam boiler condensate return system leak diagnosis and repair in Poughkeepsie (C) InspectApedia.com PatriciaWe are currently living in one of the old Vassar Faculty houses on Raymond and are having issues with the the exact same condensate return pump ITT Hoffman Pump.

We just had the boiler serviced today and it's fine but when we turned up the heat during the service the pump had water leaking onto the floor and it's unbearably loud.

Please help us try to figure out how to fix it and keep it from leaking before the colder months arrive. pa3cialuciopenn@gmail.com Thank you!

We purchased and currently live in a Vassar College Faculty Home and have the exact same box and condensate pump discussed and as the one pictured on your site.

We have only been in this home for a year and a half and have had our kids move back due to COVID and compromised immune systems. We also are trying to get my mother in law back home from a nursing home to live with us. It's a large old home with a gas heating steam system.

We just had our Boiler serviced and cleaned today 10/12/20 and the worker accidentally turned on the pump but when we turned on the heat for the testing the pump was spilling water and leaking. When we found the leaking I turned on the pump on and it seemed to work but is very loud! were worried this will happen again when we put the heat on or up.

Please help us resolve what needs to be done to fix and or replace the pump before the winter month and to make it safe. Any help would be appreciated! I made a comment and attached a picture but I'm not sure if you have reviewed for posting.

The small gray box attached to the larger light gray condensate reservoir is a controller that turns the condensate return pump on when the condensate level rises in the reservoir.

Steam condensate return pump (C) Daniel Friedman at InspectApedia.com

The blue condensate pump motor can be seen to the right of the gray condensate reservoir.

The condensate return pump data tag is so old as to be a bit difficult to read but if you click to enlarge it you will see that this is an ITT Hoffman Pump product sold under the Watchman condensate return pump and steam condensate reservoir brand.

The original pump was rated for 115V 50HZ and bore serial # 160002. - Anonymous by original post at InspectApedia.com and also by private email.

On 2020-10-13 by (mod)

I am familiar with those Vassar College house steam heating systems, Patricia.

Vassar's central steam boiler used to heat the houses along Raymond, (and beyond) so those homes each had a big condensate pump that returned condensate back to the central system, but over time the college has been eliminating those by installing a new independent boiler in each home, eliminating the connection to the main campus steam loop.

However because the original steam piping in those houses sometimes looped too low to drain back to the new boiler by gravity the system still used the condensate return pump to lift the condensate back to the boiler's return inlet.

So your system may still need that pump.

Take a close look to see exactly where the leak is occurring.

If it's at the condensate return system, is it leaking out of the reservoir or out of a pipe connection or, as I fear, out of the pump itself - as your message suggests.

If the leak is at the pump then probably a pump shaft seal is gone and the pump needs to be repaired or replaced.

Does Vassar's B&G service your boiler or are you responsible for that?

Reader follow-up:

Steam condensate return pump leak and repair plan (C) Inspectapedia.com Patricia

Thank you for your response. We are responsible for the repairs needed.

Last night we turned off the condensate pump and left the heat set to 69. This morning the white bucket was full and there was more water on the ground.

We turned off the heat for now and the pump.

We called McCourt Heating and cooling to follow up but do you recommend anyone else?

Moderator reply:

I've so long been retired from the heating service world that I can't offer a specific referral, but if the company has a tech who's experienced with steam systems you should be ok.

If the person doesn't know about condensate pumps call the service manager and ask for more help.

I suspect the pump has failed; At another Vassar house I found a whole pile of dead condensate return pumps off in a corner - that made me wonder who had been doing that repair work. A misaligned pump can also cause bearing failure.

You were right to turn off the heat - before your boiler's safety control (low water cutoff) did it for you.

There is also regular homeowner maintenance needed for steam systems - flushing out that LWCO - probably weekly - depending on how much water your system uses.

If you're not familiar with what you need to do ask the service tech to go over it with you.

Reader follow-up:

We have the heat and the pump off at the moment.

Steam condensate pump leak (C) InspectApedia.com Pat


I've attached pictures and the QUOTE for CONDENSATE SYSTEM REPLACEMENT [PDF] for the repairs from McCourt. [Personal data removed - Ed.]

Does that amount seem reasonable for the repairs and work? We were given another company from Vassar College that might be able to give us another quote.

Moderator reply:

I cannot be as smart as the on-site people

I do note that they propose to replace the entire condensate receiver system - that's why the price is what it is and if that's what's needed the price is probably reasonable if there's much labor and struggling with nasty corroded piping.

A new Hoffman condensate receiver system - just the parts - cost about half of what they're bidding.

Hoffman condensate receiver and pump replacement system Wc8 20B cost cited & discussed at Inspectapedia.com

A question to ask when you have someone on site again is: can you replace just the bad pump ?

If they say they need to replace the whole assembly, politely ask to be educated a bit as to how we decide that. It might indeed be the case - or maybe not.

Certainly the system is designed such that if the reservoir and other parts are intact the pump alone can be replaced.

So the answer is ... it depends.

On 2020-08-21 by steve

i have a steam gas boiler,green mountain
does the return line have to run around basement or can it start to pitch upward directly from boiler??

On 2018-05-28 by (mod)

I don't think you would see plastic used for steam system piping

On 2018-05-28 by Anonymous

what type of pipe do you use to repair pipe? Can PVC be used?

On 2016-11-18 by Dave

I have a leak under my radiator i cut out the ceiling and the is a little leak were the pipe is can i solder it closed

On 2016-01-13 by Victoria

I have a VERY badly corroded return pipe, this article states that copper is susceptible to corrosion as well so what type of piping should be used? Also another question about gas line into boiler.. I am in a two family house, meters, and appliances completely separate. So why would my gas have to be "on" running into my boiler for my neighbors to work?


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