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Fiber cement siding identification photos & markings: here we explain how to identify the manufacturer, brand, or type of fiber cement siding installed on a building.
This article describes the characteristic embossed fingerprints of woodgrain or knots on some fiber cement siding products, the markings and stampings on others, and the dimensions or details on still others, all of which can help make a reliable identification ofjust what fiber cement siding product is installed.
We also summarize the differences among manufactured "lookalike" siding products such as asbestos cement siding, fiber cement siding, and hardboard siding - differences that can be confusing to many people.
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Marie Carr provided photograph at below left along the product's identification from construction records. The siding finish concern is discussed at
Make Sure You Have Correctly Identified the Siding Material and Brand
Watch out: informal surveys we performed in 2012 and 2013 in which we reviewed the top 20 website discussing fiber cement siding failures or performance issues we found a lot of confusion: hardboard siding was mistaken for fiber cemetn siding, and people were also inclinied to assign a manufacturer's name to a product before it was positively identified.
On some of our own field investigations of siding installations in that same period we found that onsite "experts", even manufacturer's representatives were not much more helpful. Too oftne the onsite consultant confined himself to simply stating "that's not our product".
Note: James HardiePlank™cement board siding is a cementious product that has been installed on more than 5 million homes. This material is NOT the same composition as hardboard siding products sold by Abatibi Corp, Masonite Corp., Boise Cascade, and Georgia Pacific Corp, all of which experience failures of delamination, swelling, softening, and general deterioration when exposed to water and weather, depending on the quality of installation, exterior coatings, and maintenance. (Also see SIDING, ASBESTOS CEMENT).Below we illustrate a loose fiber cement siding problem discussed at SIDING, FIBER CEMENT DEFECTS
Unfortunately more nailing defects were apparent at the gable ends of the home where the lap siding abutted (or was supposed to abut) the gable end trim.
Left un-nailed the corners of most of these siding boards were curling away from the building. .
Consistent with our earlier warning that one bad turn suggests more are in store, even in a casual inspection we noticed other disappointing details on this home that was less than ten years old:
Unidentified Fiber Cement Siding Photos
At above right and again at below right is a photograph of a knot embossed in the siding at the home that whose fiber cement siding installation is illustrated beginning at SIDING, FIBER CEMENT DEFECTS. Comparing the characteristic wood grain "knot" pattern in our "unknown" brand siding (above right and below right) suggests that while the unknown product is not a CertainTeed siding product, it may be an imitation or effort at copying the CertainTeed marking shown at below left.
This siding was back primed but included no numbers or markings on its reverse side, of dimensions 8 1/4" wide by 9/32" thick with squared edges.
That detail rules out HardiePlank® as you'll read below. Our knot comparison, given next, seems to rule out Weatherboard.™
At below left is a characteristic knot ID pattern from CertainTeed Weatherboard™ - on order to focus on the imprint pattern and not color, we shifted the hue to match that of the unidientifed product at below right. CertainTeed fiber cement lap siding will include an imprint on the reverse side, using numbers and letters including one of these three letter pairs: RR, TH or WC.
More about identifying CertainTeed fiber cement siding is just below at CERTAINTEED WeatherBoards identification markings.
On 3/20/2013 we learned that James Hardie has now told the homeowner of the mystery siding that the siding on their home is not Hardieplank. It appears that the mystery siding is also not a CertainTeed product.
Site visits to collect siding samples and to review conditions at the building were made during 2012 and 2013. Conversation with a Chinese fiber cement siding manufacturer who had contacted us with the exciting news that they had now come back into posession of molds to create woodgrain product.
Several people asked if it were not possible to compare woodgrain patterns as an identifying fingerprint for fiber cement lap siding products, as has been the case with similar products in the past. Well yes, and perhaps no or maybe. First, not all fiber cement products rely on an identifying wood-grain pattern or knot. For example HardiePlank fiber cement siding illustrated below is identified by other markings both embossed as a nail line or in data stamps on the product back side.
Look for the Nail Line on some HardiePlank® products
Our photo just below shows the nail line markings embossed into the upper edge of certain James Hardie HardiePlank® products. This marking was found on James Hardie's pre-finished Autumn Tan HZ5 Cedarmill Hardie ee fiber cement siding at the Galow Homes fiber cement replacement job we describe in this article series.
HardiePlank's hz5-canada brochure avilable from the company at www.jameshardie.com also includes a product photo (adapted at beow left and quite a bit blurrier than our own image) suggesting that one can identify the product by the James Hardie imprint along the nail line (which in blind nailed lap siding should be covered by the overlap of the succeeding siding course). [12c]
This means you won't see this line on installed siding jobs unless you remove a section of the material.
While we searched in vain for a unique identifying knot or imprint photo online and at the company's website, nevertheless the company provides indirect assistance: you can send siding photos to their warranty claim office [if you think it's a Hardie product], or you can start by noticing that James Hardie's fiber cement product should be easily recognizable by
Fiber Cement Lap Siding Top & Bottom Edge Profiles Aid in Product Identification
Our photographs just below illustrate the top and bottom edge profiles of Hardieplank®HZ5® lap siding fiber cement product. These pictures were taken of siding still placed flat on the delivery pallet, rotated to their "installed" position, so the edge bevel and bottom drip edge profile may not be in the "installed" position on the building.
Additional Identifying Stamps on HardiePlank fiber cement siding back side
Our photographs below illustrate what are probably mill and lot identification stamps found on the back of some Hardieplank® HZ5® lap siding fiber cement boards.
Other Certainteed Weatherboard siding observations & characteristics:
Identify other Brands of Fiber Cement Siding
The illustration below is of a Chinese-made fiber cement siding product produced by Ningbo Yihe Greenboard Co., Ltd. While we have no specific complaint about this product, it and similar fiber-cement siding board products may add to difficulties in determining the origin and manufacture of various modern fiber-cement siding products.
The siding above is described by the Zhejiang manufacturer as having hese dimensions:
Watch out: That fiber cement siding is available from a variety of sources is evident from the list given
Identification of Chinese-Made Fiber Cement siding may be aided by this additional detail offered by the manufacturer: beginning in 2012, fiber cement siding from the supplier listed above is provided only with a smooth finish. The embossed wood grain patterns that were used before 2012 have, according to the manufacturer "been mostly destroyed".
In the spring of 2013 the company contacted us with this update
We have asked for identifying markings and a siding fingerpring.
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