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CHIMNEY INSPECTION DIAGNOSIS REPAIR

BACKDRAFTING HEATING EQUIPMENT
BAROMETRIC DAMPERS

CARBON MONOXIDE - CO
CHIMNEY COMPONENT DEFINITIONS
CHIMNEY FIRE ACTION / PREVENTION
COMBUSTION GASES & PARTICLE HAZARDS
COMBUSTION PRODUCTS & IAQ

FLAME COLOR, BLUE vs YELLOW COMBUSTION

HEATING INSPECTIONS
HOME HEATING SAFETY

Moisture / Frost Damaged Chimney

ODORS & SMELLS DIAGNOSIS & CURE

Safety Recalls, Chimneys, Vents, Heaters
STAIN DIAGNOSIS on BUILDING EXTERIORS

WOOD, COAL STOVES & FIREPLACES
WOOD STOVE SAFETY

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Fireplace insert into chimney (C) Carson Dunlop Inaccessible Chimney Flue at Fireplace Inserts
     

  • How does a fireplace insert such as a woodstove block inspection and cleaning of the chimney?
  • Chimney inspection limitations, further inspection & cleaning advice
  • CHIMNEY INSPECTION CAMERA - separate article
  • Questions & Answers about handling inaccessible chimneys, flues, and chimney connections during a chimney inspection
  • References

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Fireplace & chimney inspection: inaccessible chimneys & flues: this article describes the blocking of ready access to an existing fireplace and chimney flue when a "zero clearance" or other woodstove or heating appliance is inserted into a fireplace. Because the condition of an inaccessible flue is unknown, and because possibly dangerous fire or carbon monoxide hazards could be present, we offer advice on further inspection and cleaning.

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Inaccessible Connections Between Fireplace or Woodstove Insert & the Chimney Flue

Fireplace insert into chimney (C) Carson Dunlop

Readers should also see FIREPLACE INSERTS.

These articles on chimneys and chimney safety provide detailed suggestions describing how to perform a thorough visual inspection of chimneys for safety and other defects. Chimney inspection methods and chimney repair methods are also discussed. Readers should also see Chimney Inspection: Flue Interiors and ChimScan: Inspecting Flues by Cameras. Our page top sketch of a typical fireplace insert is provided courtesy of Carson Dunlop & Associates.

Carson Dunlop's sketch explains that a home inspector is not required to inspect the connections between a fireplace insert (such as a woodstove or coal stove inserted into a fireplace) and the chimney.

In fact it is just about impossible to see the condition of these components and their connections unless the insert is removed or inspected from above using a chimney inspection camera system.

If a woodstove/free-standing fireplace like this were to be used it would probably require at least three feet of clearance from combustibles.

Local codes and fire regulations need to be consulted, and in most jurisdictions, a building permit and safety inspection are required for the installation of a woodstove or similar device.

See WOOD STOVE SAFETY for important details and also see Chimney Safety Alert for Wood Burning Appliances - US CPSC Alert Document 5017, wood stoves, fireplace.

More help with inspecting chimney flue interiors can be found in these articles:

Chimney Inspection: Flue Interiors
  Chimney Interior Inspection Methods
  Barometric Damper view of Flue
  Chimney Thimble Requirements
  Chimney Thimble Damage
  Cleanout Door view of Flue
  Masonry Fragments & Debris at the Cleanout
ChimScan: Inspecting Flues by Cameras


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  • NFPA 211 - Standards for Chimneys & Fireplaces, NFPA 211: Standard for Chimneys, Fireplaces, Vents, and Solid Fuel-Burning Appliances, 2006 Edition (older editions and standards are found at the same bookstore)
  • NFPA #211-3.1 1988 - Specific to chimneys, fireplaces, vents and solid fuel burning appliances.
  • NFPA # 54-7.1 1992 - Specific to venting of equipment with fan-assisted combustion systems.
  • GAMA - Gas Appliance Manufacturers' Association has prepared venting tables for Category I draft hood equipped central furnaces as well as fan-assisted combustion system central furnaces.
  • National Fuel Gas Code, an American National Standard, 4th ed. 1988 (newer edition is available) Secretariats, American Gas Association (AGA), 1515 Wilson Blvd., Arlington VA22209, and National Fire Protection Association (NFPA), Batterymarch Park, Quincy MA 02269. ANSI Z223.1-1988 - NFPA 54-1988. WARNING: be sure to check clearances and other safety guidelines in the latest edition of these standards.
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  • Uniform Mechanical Code - UMC 1991, Sec 913 (a.) Masonry Chimneys, refers to Chapters 23, 29, and 37 of the Building Code.
  • New York 1984 Uniform Fire Prevention and Building Code, Article 10, Heating, Ventilating, and Air Conditioning Requirements
  • New York 1979 Uniform Fire Prevention & Building Code, The "requirement" for 8" of solid masonry OR for use of a flue liner was listed in the One and Two Family Dwelling Code for New York, in 1979, in Chapter 9, Chimneys and Fireplaces, New York 1979 Building and Fire Prevention Code:
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