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Metal B-Vent flue installation requirements & inspection suggestions.
This article describes B-vent metal chimneys used for gas-fired appliances. What are Type B vents and where are they used? B-vents for gas fired appliances are explained. We include photos of B-vent markings & labels for identification. We give chimney cap requirements for B-vents and we discuss fire safety, fire clearances, and other gas appliance venting details for metal B-vent chimneys
Type B-vents are double-walled metal chimneys/flues and can be used only with listed, draft-hood equipped gas appliances.
Type B gas vents such as the Ameri-Vent™ are permitted for venting gas-fired appliances and have their own set of combustible clearance and installation specifications. A Type B vent is intended for relatively low-heat applications.
B-vents are not permitted for use with incinerators and are not intended for use with appliances burning anything other than LP or natural gas.
Watch out: B-Vents are not for use with fireplaces, woodstoves, or oil-fired equipment.
As you see in our close-up photo below, a rated or UL-listed type B-vent chimney will usually be clearly labeled.
The B-vent also requires that its own special chimney cap be installed. If the cap is lost, do not substitute something not recommended by the manufacturer or the chimney may be unsafe.
Watch out: also for a "home made" B-vent using aluminum or clothes dryer venting products. Those are not intended for venting gas appliances and would be unsafe in such use.
Type B Vent Chimney Labels & Identification
Our photos below show the common embossed and printed labels that identify Type B Gas vents.
In the photo just above and just below are labels and the UL listing mark on a Type B Gas Vent produced by Amerivent.
Below is a similar product produced by the Canadian manufacturer Selkirk.
Below I'm holding a new section of Selkirk's Type B gas vent to show its double-wall construction.
L-Vents vs B-Vents - What's the Difference?
As we state at TYPE L VENT CHIMNEYS, it can be confusing distinguishing between L-Vent chimneys and B-Vent chimneys, in part because the same components may be used in both heat venting range installations.
Type L-Vents conform to UL 641 and are intended for higher temperature appications such as venting oil fired heating equipment. A Type-L vent can also be used for venting a gas appliance as explained below.
Type B-Vents are intended for lower temperature gas fired heating equipment applications and should not be used with other fuels (such as home heating oil).
Describing their model DFS L-Vent/ Type B Gas Vent installation procedures, Selkirk Corporation, a producer of metal chimneys and vents, offers these details:
Type L-Vent is designed for venting approved oil or gas
appliances producing draft hood flue gases not exceeding a
temperature of 570ºF (299ºC).
Type B Gas vent is designed for venting approved gas
appliances equipped with draft hoods and other Listed gas
appliances specified for use with Type B Gas vent which
produce flue gases not exceeding 480°F (249°C).
Minimum clearance between the vent and combustible
materials is 3 inches for L-Vent and 1 inch for Type B gas
vent. L-Vent or B-Vent that extends through any story above
that on which the connected appliance is located is to be
provided with enclosures having a fire resistance rating equal
to or greater than that of the floor or roof assemblies through
which they pass.
Framing dimensions of enclosures and at joist or rafter levels
shall be a minimum of 6" larger than the outside of the vent
for L-Vent and 2” larger for B-Vent.
Near the vent base, post a notice of the type of appliance for
which the DFS installation to combustibles is installed. If
installed at 1” airspace, it is limited to B-Vent (gas) only. If it
is installed at 3” airspace, it it may be used with oil (as an LVent)
or gas (as a B-Vent).
Type B Vent Installation Errrors to Avoid
Get the Metal Chimney Sections Right-Way Up
Metal chimney assemblies, including Type B-Vents Includes a "right way up" which you can see Amerivent stamps or embosses right into the steel surface as well as marking it again on a printed label, giving us two chances to get it right.
Here is a close-up of the vent label: note the "up" arrow.
At below left you can see the Type B gas vent installed "right way up". Why is this important?
If a gas vent is installed upside down there is risk of dangerous CARBON MONOXIDE - CO gas leakage into the building - a potentially fatal mistake.
If a gas vent is installed upside down condensate leaks back into the heating appliance where it can cause expensive corrosion or rust damage, perforation, gas leakage, and expensive as well as dangerous conditions.
Use Type B Gas Vents Only on Gas Fired Equipment - not with other fuels
Type B gas vents are not to be used with incinerators or with appliances burning solid or liquid fuels. The gas vent is correctly installed here on a gas fired heater.
Below, [Click to enlarge] Ameri-Vent's Type B gas vent label makes plain that the vent is intended only for use with listed, draft-hood-equipped gas appliances.
Stupid Home-Made Gas Vent Tricks
Besides choosing the right chimney material for the appliance it is to vent, a safe installation follows applicable building codes and standards.
But the Type B vent manufacturers make a concerted effort to get their products installed correctly and safely even by fellows who prefer to use the instructions to kneel upon.
Well what can I say about this photo pair above and below ?
This creative "gas vent" and home made "chimney cap" had nothing right and nothing safe about it.
The telescoping (though creative) cap had slid down into the vent, blocking exit venting,
the diameter was too small, there was no rain cap,
the material used for the gas vent was not listed for that purpose,
a rubber plumbing vent is being used on what was supposed to be a glue gas vent where we expect metal flashing, and so on ad nauseum.
It is worth taking a look at all chimneys from time to time - perhaps to notice that a cap has been lost (below left) or other damage has occurred.
Below: a damaged DIY gas vent with no cap.
In our photo below that aluminum, horizontal pipe near the building corner is venting a gas fired water heater. Or is it? At the stone wall we see a second larger B-type gas vent for the heating system.
Ceiling, Wall & Wall Clearances for B-Vent "flue pipes"
For Venting Residential, Commercial & Industrial Appliances Category I, II, III & IV Appliances, HeatFab, 5030 Corporate Exchange Blvd., Grand Rapids MI 49512 USA, Tel: 800-772-0739, Website: www.heatfab.com retrieved 2017/07/22, original source: http://heatfab.com/~/media/pigcins07302015.pdf
Commercial/Industrial Venting Products Sales Office Selkirk Corporation 5030 Corporate Exchange Blvd SE Grand Rapids, MI 49512 USA Tel: 800.848.2149 Selkirk Canada Corporation
375 Green Road Stoney Creek, ON L8E4A5 Tel: 888.735.5475 Website: www.selkirkcommercial.com retrieved 2017/07/22, original source: http://selkirkcommercial.com/~/media/selkirk/reference-documents/ common/file/installation/pressure-stacks/ model-psipspressure-stack/installation-instructionsmaintenanceguide.pdf
Excerpt: An Attic Insulation Shield must be installed where a chimney passes from a lower living space into an upper living space or into an attic space. It is designed to keep insulation materials from coming into contact with the chimney and will protect up to a 10" (250 mm) thickness of insulation.
Where height restrictions will not permit the use of the Attic Insulation Shield, an enclosure from the attic joist to the roof joist will be sufficient. All chimney enclosures must maintain the required minimum air space clearance of 2" (50mm) to the chimney.
When enclosing the chimney below the roof line, a Rafter Radiation Shield (RRS) must be installed at the roof level ...
Questions & answers or comments about B-vents chimneys & flues: installation specifications.
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Mark Cramer Inspection Services Mark Cramer, Tampa Florida, Mr. Cramer is a past president of ASHI, the American Society of Home Inspectors and is a Florida home inspector and home inspection educator. Mr. Cramer serves on the ASHI Home Inspection Standards. Contact Mark Cramer at: 727-595-4211 mark@BestTampaInspector.com
John Cranor is an ASHI member and a home inspector (The House Whisperer) is located in Glen Allen, VA 23060. He is also a contributor to InspectApedia.com in several technical areas such as plumbing and appliances (dryer vents). Contact Mr. Cranor at 804-747-7747 or by Email: firstname.lastname@example.org
Thanks to Luke Barnes for suggesting that we add text regarding the hazards of shared chimney flues. USMA - Sept. 2008.
Arlene Puentes, an ASHI member and a licensed home inspector in Kingston, NY, and has served on ASHI national committees as well as HVASHI Chapter President. Ms. Puentes can be contacted at email@example.com
Roger Hankeyis principal of Hankey and Brown home inspectors, Eden Prairie, MN, technical review by Roger Hankey, prior chairman, Standards Committee, American Society of Home Inspectors - ASHI. 952 829-0044 - hankeyandbrown.com
NFPA #211-3.1 1988 -
Specific to chimneys, fireplaces, vents and solid fuel burning appliances.
NFPA # 54-7.1 1992 -
Specific to venting of equipment with fan-assisted combustion systems.
Gas Appliance Manufacturers' Association has prepared venting tables for
Category I draft hood equipped central furnaces as well as fan-assisted
combustion system central furnaces.
National Fuel Gas Code, an American National Standard, 4th ed. 1988 (newer edition is available) Secretariats, American Gas Association (AGA), 1515 Wilson Blvd., Arlington VA22209, and National Fire Protection Association (NFPA), Batterymarch Park, Quincy MA 02269. ANSI Z223.1-1988 - NFPA 54-1988. WARNING: be sure to check clearances and other safety guidelines in the latest edition of these standards.
Fire Inspector Guidebook, A Correlation of Fire Safety Requirements Contained in the 1987 BOCA National Codes, (newer edition available), Building Officials and Code Administrators International, Inc. (BOCA), Country Club HIlls, IL 60478 312-799-2300 4th ed. Note: this document is reissued every four years. Be sure to obtain the latest edition.
Uniform Mechanical Code - UMC 1991, Sec 913 (a.) Masonry Chimneys,
refers to Chapters 23, 29, and 37 of the Building Code.
New York 1984 Uniform Fire
Prevention and Building Code, Article 10, Heating, Ventilating, and Air Conditioning Requirements
New York 1979 Uniform Fire Prevention & Building Code, The "requirement" for 8" of solid masonry OR for use of a
flue liner was listed in the One and Two Family Dwelling Code for New
York, in 1979, in Chapter 9, Chimneys and Fireplaces, New York 1979
Building and Fire Prevention Code:
"Top Ten Chimney (and related) Problems Encountered by One Chimney Sweep," Hudson Valley ASHI education seminar, 3 January 2000, contributed by Bob Hansen, ASHI
"Rooftop View Turns to Darkness," Martine Costello, Josh Kovner, New Haven Register, 12 May 1992 p. 11: Catherine Murphy was sunning on a building roof when a chimney collapsed; she fell into and was trapped inside the chimney until rescued by emergency workers.
"Chimneys and Vents," Mark J. Reinmiller, P.E., ASHI Technical Journal, Vol. 1 No. 2 July 1991 p. 34-38.
"Chimney Inspection Procedures & Codes," Donald V. Cohen was to be published in the first volume of the 1994 ASHI Technical Journal by D. Friedman, then editor/publisher of that publication. The production of the ASHI Technical Journal and future editions was cancelled by ASHI President Patrick Porzio. Some of the content of Mr. Cohen's original submission has been included in this more complete chimney inspection article: InspectAPedia.com/chimneys/Chimney_Inspection_Repair.php. Copies of earlier editions of the ASHI Technical Journal are available from ASHI, the American Society of Home Inspectors.
"Chimneys and Vents", 789 CMR 68.00 Massachusetts Building Code, web search 10/15/2010, original source:
780 CMR: STATE BOARD OF BUILDING REGULATIONS AND STANDARDS
THE MASSACHUSETTS STATE BUILDING CODE - quoting: 6801.11 Multiple-Appliance Venting Systems.
Two or more listed and labeled fossil fuel-fired
appliances shall not be connected to a common
natural draft venting system unless permitted per
applicable requirements of 248 CMR or 527 CMR.
For solid fuel-burning appliances, see 780 CMR
Chimneys and Vents, Chapter 18, M1801,model building code - [on file as Code_Chim_Res_C_18.pdf] - widely used by U.S. & Canadian Municipalities,
"Model DFS L-Vent / Type B Gas Vent Installation Instructions", Selkirk Corporation, 5030 Corporate Exchange Blvd., Grand Rapids MI 49512, Tel: 800-433-6341 & Selkirk Canada Corporation, PO Box 526, Depot 1, Hamilton ON L8L 7X6, 888-735-5475, web search 10/15/2010, original source: www.mass.gov/Eeops/docs/dps/780%20CMR/780068.pdf
"Type L Temperature Venting Systems [on file as L_Vent_Metal_Fab.pdf] - ", Installation and Maintenance Instructions, Metal-Fab Inc., PO Box 1138, Sichita KS 67201, 316-943-2351, Email: firstname.lastname@example.org website: www.mtl-fabinc.com
Ceramic Roofware, Hans Van Lemmen, Shire Library, 2008, ISBN-13: 978-0747805694 - Brick chimneys, chimney-pots and roof and ridge tiles have been a feature of the roofs of a wide range of buildings since the late Middle Ages. In the first instance this ceramic roofware was functional - to make the roof weatherproof and to provide an outlet for smoke - but it could also be very decorative.
The practical and ornamental aspects of ceramic roofware can still be seen throughout Britain, particularly on buildings of the Victorian and Edwardian periods. Not only do these often have ornate chimneys and roof tiles but they may also feature ornamental sculptures or highly decorative gable ends. This book charts the history of ceramic roofware from the Middle Ages to the present day, highlighting both practical and decorative applications, and giving information about manufacturers and on the styles and techniques of production and decoration.
Hans van Lemmen is an established author on the history of tiles and has lectured on the subject in Britain and elsewhere. He is founder member and presently publications editor of the British Tiles and Architectural Ceramics Society. Available at the InspectAPedia Bookstore.
Chimney & Stack Inspection Guidelines, American Society of Civil Engineers, 2003 - These guidelines address the inspection of chimneys and stacks. Each guideline assists owners in determining what level of inspection is appropriate to a particular chimney and provides common criteria so that all parties involved have a clear understanding of the scope of the inspection and the end product required. Each chimney or stack is a unique structure, subject to both aggressive operating and natural environments, and degradation over time. Such degradation may be managed via a prudent inspection program followed by maintenance work on any equipment or structure determined to be in need of attention. Sample inspection report specifications, sample field inspection data forms, and an example of a developed plan of a concrete chimney are included in the guidelines. This book provides a valuable guidance tool for chimney and stack inspections and also offers a set of references for these particular inspections.
NFPA 211 - 3-4 - Clearance from Combustible Material
NFPA 54 - 7-1 - Venting of Equipment into chimneys
Brick Institute of America - Flashing Chimneys
Brick Institute of America - Proper Chimney Crowns
Brick Institute of America - Moisture Resistance of Brick
American Gas Association - New Vent Sizing Tables
Chimney Safety Institute of America - Chimney Fires: Causes, Effects, Evaluation
National Chimney Sweep Guild - Yellow Pages of Suppliers
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