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Indoor Air Quality - Best Practices for Improving Indoor Air in Homes

Gray dust deposits on fiberglass ductwork surfaces can't be cleaned (C) InspectApedia.com LukeThese questions and answers about the best practices or best methods to improve indoor air quality were posted originally at x - please be sure to review the advice given there.

Our page top photo shows an indoor air particle sample dense with fiberglass, fungal hyphae, and Penicillium/Aspergillus spore chains - indicating a nearby mold contamination source.

On 2019-08-05 by (mod) - effectiveness of Molekule Air Purifier Claims

Colette

We discussed this question in your Q&A now found at

https://inspectapedia.com/BestPractices/Air_Purifier_Effectiveness.php

On 2019-08-04 by Colette Zito

what is the effectiveness of Molekule Air Purifier Claims. Thank you, in advance, for your honest response. colette

On 2019-04-16 by (mod) -

It may be useful to first have a dust sample analyzed by an expert as that can both point to the dust source and identify any unusual hazard.

On 2019-04-16 by (mod) -

Re posting

I live in a new building that was finished 5 years ago. There is a fine white dust that is everywhere. I have stopped using the window heater/air-conditioner, as it blows the dust all over the 2 rooms of my apartment. I have 2 Oransi Air purifiers working at maximum, 24/7.

The dust is so thick I have to vacuum the 1st of 3 filters every month.

I am 80-years-old and have COPD, so am very concerned about this and want to find out what the dust is and where it is coming from. I don't want to leave this low-income housing for seniors but will have to if it is very bad for my health. Other residents here also have the white dust.

If there is some way to seal my apartment from what is inside the walls, I will do that first.
Thank you for any help you can suggest.
I live in Boulder, CO.

Anon email 4 April

On 2019-04-12 by (mod) -

Susan

It may be useful to have an expert interview occupants to hear concerns, inspect for obvious IAQ hazard sources, and do some strategic testing such as collecting and analyzing representative samples of settled dust. Sometimes by careful microscopic examination of the dust sample one can identify dominant particles and from that point to possible problem sources.

On 2019-04-11 by Susan

I'm so glad that I found this site. My husband and I have lived in a loft apartment for 7 years. This the "Dusty" places I've lived. Isn't the return vent suppose to filter the air in?? Management here at K'Kirkwood Bluff, apt. complex. in a fairly well area near some older homes which are beautiful homes. Well, its upstairs near the closet where our water heater is. and there dusty black on the outside vents. The leather sofa and recliner have dust on them every morning.

By the end of a week, if I put off dusting this place this is.covered with it. Many people have moved within a year or they break their lease because they can't take it. That's how BAD it is. We are elderly as is my husband and disabled because of recent accident. We 'know' they will RAISE our rent if we complain. I'm SERIOUS. Please read this. I, just took a hit of pot so I hope this make sense. Not joking. PLS LEAVE LAST SENTMNT
Thank You,
susan in STL.MO.

On 2018-12-29 by (mod) -

I can't make an assessment by e-text of the risks at your site. What you need to do is make the people doing the work responsible for minimizing the dust and cleaning up should there be post remediation cleanup required.

On 2018-12-29 by Luke

Our HVAC specialist said that they would have to make more cuts to the existing ductwork in order to bag it. The attic access is actually in our carport. What's better, no bags and fewer cuts, or more cuts and into bags?

On 2018-12-28 by Luke

Is there a home sized dehumidifier you recommend? We're good with paying for the 70l size. We're in a ranch on slab in Florida, so decibel level is important in addition to reliability, and energy rating.

Gray dust deposits on fiberglass ductwork surfaces can't be cleaned (C) InspectApedia.com LukeOn 2018-12-21 by (mod) - removing moldy dusty contaminated fiberglass lined ductwork

Luke:

Deposits of gray-colored house dust on interior surfaces of all HVAC ducts is common and not necessarily something to panic about: housedust is normally dominated by fabric fibers and skin cells - normal stuff.

However when air contaminated by high levels of airborne indoor mold has been circulated inside the ductwork that can form a remaining allergen or health hazard in the building, particularly when some occuants may be at extra risk: asthmatics, elderly, infants, immune-comporomised, etc.

In such cases I agree that duct cleaning (if ducts can be cleaned) or duct replacement (for fiberglass ducts like those in your photo) when ducts can't be cleaned.

My preferred replacement HVAC ducts are made of metal with exterior insulation as those can be cleaned; however for cost reasons people often use alternatives.

A less costly alternative might be ducts constructed of foil-faced fiberglass sheets as those surfaces are less dust-sticky than fiberglass, even coated fiberglass.

If you are removing the old ducts - which is a reasonable step considering that they were probably inoculated with high levels of airborne mold (based on your story as I have no data) and as they can't be cleaned - at a minimum you'd

- want the workers to cut and bag duct sections making as little dust as possible, using dust containment and even negative air if the work can't be done without making a dusty mess

- clean dust from the work area after the job

In my OPINION no "air purifier" really purifies air - that is removes all contaminants - nor can an air purifier remove an indoor IAQ problem any more than waving the vacuum cleaner wand in the air in the kitchen will remove dust bunnies from under the couch in the living room.

However in an enclosed space with low dust sources (e.g. no carpeting) an air cleaner can, while the space is closed, reduce the airborne particle level. That can be helpful for people who are allergic or asthmatic and who need a low-stress sleeping area or office.

My preference is to focus on house cleaning, good housekeeping, fixing leaks, controlling indoor humidity, etc. - that is, to focus on IAQ problem sources rather than on IAQ symptoms.

At the Continue Reading link at the end of this article take a look at INDOOR AIR QUALITY IMPROVEMENT, KEY STEPS

and in the ARTICLE INDEX found just below that you'll find articles on air "purifiers" such as AIR CLEANER PURIFIER TYPES

On 2018-12-21 by Luke - allergen sensitivity after mold remediation

My wife has been complaining allergen sensitivity in two of our bedrooms. One room was mitigated for mold because of a leaking ac drip line. Walls replaced, new floors, bleach, concurbium, the whole works. The other room has not had water damage.

We have original vents from 1974 in our attic that drop into those rooms. We took photos inside the vents and noticed an incredible amount of dust settlement up there. Because they are fiberglass we understand that they can't be properly cleaned.

A couple of questions as we consider replacement. What do we need to be mindful of when our HVAC professional is removing?

Is there possibility of contamination when they remove the old ductwork? With replacement ductwork, is there a type you prefer over the other?

We had one HVAC company recommend a cleaning light like the APCO Air Purifier.

Do you recommend these types of units for home indoor air health?

Thanks,

Luke

On 2018-10-31 by (mod) - recognize air bubbles in dust sample slide mount

Hi Lynn, thanks for asking:

In this photo (from our lab work) the perfectly round dark objects with a white spot in the center are air bubbles in the mounting liquid used in preparation of a microscope slide.

I appreciate the question - I should have made that clear when posting the photo.

On 2018-10-31 by Lynn Ezell

What are the round objects in the attached photo? I have seen these in house dust samples I have taken.

Microscopic examination of building dust and fibers (C) InspectApedia.com Daniel Friedman

On 2017-05-23 by (mod) -

OPINION: Some people who mean well may not be properly informed about IAQ and building health issues, and then there are a few who follow the "mold is gold" train.

If there are extensive areas of mold we need to know where the leak or humidity comes from - fix that by having a more expert inspector who understands moisture, air movement, where leaks occur; It's worth the cost of invasive inspecting if you start by inspecting at the most-suspect locations.

On 2017-05-23 by Cherie

Too late, money already spent...ugh. How do you know who to trust?

Mold was found on three walls in the living room / dining room, one wall in a first floor laundry room and one wall in the basement. The basement was waterproofed in 2014.

Three weeks ago old carpeting was removed in the entire house, the mold mentioned above was remediated and the whole house fogged by a professional mold remediation company.

We are still having ear, nose and throat irritation. I have cleaned the house from top to bottom on my hand and knees and have not seen any visible signs of water damage or excessive moisture. A mold inspector (hired after the remediation ) did a visual inspection and has NOT found evidence of water damage, excess humidity, roof leaks or HVAC problem.

It's a boiler with gas hot water heat so no heater vents and no air conditioning.

Ventilation in the attic was poor so we installed a power attic fan temporarily until we can get a ridge vent installed. Some of the insulation in the attic was looked under but not each and every piece. There are signs of a previous roof repair.

Short of knocking holes in walls, peeling of all wall paper and taking down paneling, how do I go about finding hidden mold without demolishing the house? There is no history of prior leaks or wet floors in those areas.

The house is currently unoccupied so there is no furniture in the house

On 2017-05-23 by (mod) - looking for direction on indoor air quality.

Cherie

Honestly and with all due respect I can't make much sense out of what you've been told.

But I would not spend any money scrubbing air - that's about as effective at removing a mold problem in a Building as standing in the kitchen, waving your home vacuum cleaner wand in the air, and thinking you're going to draw the dust bunnies from under the living room couch. Not the slightest chance.

If there is a mold problem or evidence suggesting that one is present in the building, someone with some sense has to find its location (perhaps hidden in a wall or ceiling or crawl space) AND to find its cause (leaks, trapped moisture). Then the mold is removed and its cause fixed.

If you search InspectApedia using the search box just above for MOLD CLEANUP PROCEDURES or MOLD REMEDIATION you'll see articles giving more details. Take a look and then let me know how we can be of more specific help.

On 2017-05-23 00:58:08.938010 by Cherie

I'm looking for direction on indoor air quality. We've hired an IAQ professional that performed a visual inspection and VOC and MVOC air test, I've also hired a Mold Inspector and Tester that performed a visual inspection, a control air test and three indoor air test, one on each floor of the house.

Both have said mold is moderate but indoor air quality is elevated. We've installed power attic fan to improve attic ventilation, fixed bathroom exhaust fans, opened windows and ventilated with fans. Lastly we've rented 4 huge HEPA air scrubbers for a week.

They have been running for four days but so far no improvement.

They are the kind they run in surgical units of a hospital. Yet she and I are still having ear, nose and throat irritation. I don't know what else to do. Can you give me some suggestions?

On 2017-04-06 by (mod) - ozone hazards

Absolutely, Donna.

By using the InspectApedia search box just above and searching for OZONE GAS EXPOSURE EFFECTS you'll find a whole series of articles on the topic.

Or see OZONE HAZARDS - home as a good starting point

On 2017-04-06 by Donna

Does anybody have any knowledge/experience with a home that has been overexposed to ozone??? Need help ASAP

On 2017-01-31 by (mod) - obnoxious odor on and off in our building

Winifred,

At ODORS GASES SMELLS, DIAGNOSIS & CURE - home - you'll find a series of articles on tracking down odor to its source.

About blaming a plant, that ought to be trivial to resolve - just remove or cover the plant. I understand how frustrated that would leave you - we're entering an era in which thoughtful, informed, objective data is not always valued as much as it ought to be.

"Obnoxious odor" isn't descriptive enough to focus on a specific source, but an onsite expert ought to be able to smell the odor and to share opinions with you about its nature. Just shotgunning by making arbitrary tests for specific gases may not be helpful.

At the top of any of our pages you'll see an EXPERTS DIRECTORY - some home inspectors and some environmental inspectors will have experience in tracking down odor problems.

On 2017-01-31 by Winifred

Hi, we have had an obnoxious odor on and off in our building for the past three weeks.

I have contacted our HVAC company who found no problems with the heating/cooling system or air ducts (as far as they could see). We have a roof top unit on our 2 story building. We had the local city sewer department in.

They did a smoke test and found only one minor problem - no trap in a sink that is rarely used. They said we should run water once a week.

We have also had our plumber in three times They agree we have an odor, however it is not constant.

Today is the first time they actually smelled the odor and they tried to tell us it was from the soil of one of our plants. That does not seem even remotely likely. Are there companies that can assist in researching what might be going on?

Question: is an indoor mold spore count of 29,100 and 689 Aspergillus harmful?

Is an indoor spore count of 29,100 and a raw count of 689 of Aspergillus a harmful level?

My daughter has moved into an apartment we feel has a heavy musty odor of mold and we are concerned. We had testing done and we are having trouble understanding the test results. Thanks! - Willie 8/13/2011

Reply: maybe

Willie the interpretation of a spore count, given the huge variability from moment to moment of indoor particle levels, has meaning mostly if interpreted by an expert who also has actually inspected the building. I have no trust in "raw" indoor airborne particle counts -

I'm not even sure what your report means by that number, but in any event, we need to know not just how many of particle x there are in a building but how big a percentage of all particles they form.

When you have some idea what your "mold tester" was up to, then the article

titled MOLD EXPOSURE STANDARDS
may help put it into perspective.

There you will see that while building air quality experts have reasonably consistent opinions about indoor mold levels that suggest a water-contaminated building (and possibly hidden a mold reservoir to be found and removed) that would agree that 30,000 mold spores/M3 of air could indicate a problem, a more accurate answer is ... it depends

. For example, collecting an indoor air particle sample while indoor air is being stirred by fans or an HVAC system will give airborne counts that are one to two orders of magnitude (10x to 100x) the count you'd get in quiet still indoor air conditions.

In my OPINION whomever you paid should not just have thrown a lab report over the wall to you - they owe you something for their fee, no?

at MOLD / ENVIRONMENTAL EXPERT, HIRE ? we include some criteria for helping decide when further investigation for a hidden mold contamination problem is in order.

Question: the air quality in our house is causing breathing issues with everyone - the mold inspector didn't see a problem and recommended an air exchange unit

The air quality in our house is causing breathing issues with everyone in the house. A certified mold inspector just looked at our house and saw no water issues nor mold issues. Our dehumidifier in the basement needs to be emptied 3x a day.

She suggested replacing the humidifier with an air exchange system like Humidex. Is that a reasonable step to take or should we get some other inspector in? - Barbara 8/16/11

Reply: dilution of contaminated air versus finding and removing the contaminant is the question?

Barbara, the swap out of a portable dehumidifier to an air to air exchange unit would be expected to add outdoor fresh air into the home, perhaps diluting an indoor contaminant, irritant, or pollutant. It's not an unreasonable suggestion ("how-to" advice is

at VENTILATION, BALANCED), but it begs the question.

If no one has diagnosed a problem in the home no one knows what's wrong or what needs to be fixed, so we don't know if there is not something more harmful, or urgent, that should be corrected.

You could wear a HEPA filter respirator while indoors too, and might feel better if the problem in indeed due to indoor air particles, but still no one would know what problem to address in the home.

Lots of "certified" inspectors have taken a class and obtained a certification; we document here that some mail-order certifications are very easy to obtain. In my experience and opinion, many mold experts are neither expert in mold, knowing little about mycology, for example, nor experts in indoor air quality and building science.

Too many are accepting a fee for collecting some samples that are sent to a lab, and perhaps a too-superficial inspection.

I would take a look at the article

titled MOLD / ENVIRONMENTAL EXPERT, HIRE ? and perhaps find someone in whose experience and depth and care you have confidence.

Reader follow-up:

The issue seems to be dampness (not to the touch) from the concrete.

When I am away from the home and no one is tending to the dehumidifier constantly the surface mold develops on items conducive to mold growth--certain wood items, baseboards behind bookshelves, cardboard boxes or clothes directly on the concrete floor and the like.

My house is on a wooded lot, which is nice and cool in the summer, but may contribute to the general dampness in the basement.

Is this still sounding like an air to air exchange unit would be helpful? We are also considering cutting down a tree or two overshadowing our house. Members of the home are seriously affected by the air quality. Would you recommend hiring an expert inspector like Greg Brown or try the air to air exchange unit? (Thank you for your assistance!) - Barbara 8/17/11

Reply:

If you are seeing indoor mold growth there is an indoor humidity problem.

All mold is everywhere, all the time. So when indoor conditions are right, depending on the particular indoor surface - what it's made of - some mold spores find it a nice place to begin colonization.

In addition, if there is already an existing indoor problem mold reservoir, perhaps a hidden one, that added inoculation of mold spores (that varies by indoor conditions of light, humidity, temperature, and even season) can speed up the colonization of indoor surfaces.

You need to properly control the indoor humidity, not cutting down outdoor trees. And if there is already indoor mold visible, you need to know the extent of cleanup needed and to have that done effectively.

Question: My vinyl floor smells like B.O. and is making me sick

Hi, hopefully you can help,

My vinyl floor is outgassing. It smells like terrible body odor and is making me sick! Before I put in a claim, I want to educate myself as much as possible. What is it exactly in plastic that breaks down to smell like BO? What other information do you think I should know before I make contact with a claims department?

The [smelly vinyl] floor is Permastone by Tarkett and it was tested by the Resilient Floor Covering Institute and given a floor score as being environmentally sound and complies with California's volatile organic compound emissions criteria.

Maybe that was after mine was manufactured.
Thanks,
Amanda 9/30/11

Reply:

Amanda, vinyl flooring outgassing of VOCs usually diminishes rapidly in the days right after installation; outgassing and odors may also be from the adhesive or mastic used to install the floor, not the flooring itself. But yours is the first report we've had of an odor associated with "BO" or body odor.

NAFCO describes five different adhesives that may be used with their flooring products, including one on "self-stick" flooring tiles. Acrylic adhesives are common.

You might want to give Tarkett a call (United States - Phone 800-367-8275 Canada - Phone 800-465-4030) to ask for a copy of the MSDS for both the Permastone product itself and for the adhesive used in its installation.

Also download their installation .PDF and check those instructions against what was used by your installer. For example, if an installer did not follow the recommended installation guide - see nafco dot com .

The installation manual also details NAFCO's principal concerns (moisture in the subfloor or slab over which flooring is to be installed) that affect their product's performance.

Also see these articles:

VINYL SIDING or WINDOW PLASTIC ODORS
VINYL CHLORIDE HEALTH INFO
VINYL SIDING or WINDOW PLASTIC ODORS

Question: are pressure treated materials toxic to breathe?

Pressure treated lumber marking codes (C) Daniel FriedmanI need to know if pressure treated materials are toxic to breath , and how do you get rid of the smell on the pressure treated materials. I have tried sealers[Bin Shellac] and added ventilation under the home .I have 6 by 14 pressure treated beams under the house supporting the main floor. Please advise - Paul MacGregor 3/26/12

Reply:

What and where are your pressure treated materials. Odor complaints from treated lumber are not something we have heard reported before. How did you determine the odor source?

However Paul, if you are talking about sawdust from construction during building of a structure that uses pressure-treated lumber, modern pressure treated lumber typically uses borate salts rather than the more toxic CCA (that contained copper arsenate - an arsenic compound) in older lumber.

Nevertheless, sawdust in general is a respiratory irritant that should be avoided by wearing a proper respirator - we'd recommend a HEPA respirator worn while sawing or sanding treated or any other wood.

Details about the types of wood preservative treatment, health concerns, & working with treated lumber are

at PRESERVATIVE_TREATED FRAMING LUMBER

Question: indoor air contaminants include gases & microbes

(May 20, 2011) Manish K. Verma said:

Here the normal concentration of the contaminants like gases, microbes should be mentioned.

Reply:

Thank you for the suggestion Mannish, see the table just above.

Question: soft water in a dehumidifier

(Feb 6, 2014) Anonymous said:

I use water soften by auqa pur in my dehumidifier and it puts a salt dust in the air and covers my furniture, is this harmful?

Reply:

Really? a dehumidifier removes moisture from building air. More likely you are discussing a humidifier - a device to add humidity to building air.

Please see HUMIDITY CONTROL & TARGETS INDOORS

Question: office flooded, IAQ complaints

(July 24, 2014) Josie said:

Our office was recently flooded due to a plumbing mishap. Because of the water, the walls had to be torn apart, insulation removed & replaced, drywall & studs replaced. The repairs are still ongoing.

Anytime I'm in the office now, after about an hour my throat gets itchy, my tongue tingles & itches, I develop a cough, nausea and headache.

Could the repairs, open/disturbed insulation, etc be the cause of these new symptoms? thanks for your time.

Reply:

Josie it is possible that the extent of demolition and cleaning were inadequate. Some simple measurements of what is in the indoor dust may be helpful.

Also see FIBERGLASS HAZARDS

Question: office smells rotten

(Sept 11, 2014) Lee Bryant said:

Our office smells like there is something "rotten" and it is usually in the mornings. It seems to not be as bad as the day passes.

Reply:

Lee At the ARTICLE INDEX at the end of this article , beginning at

ODOR DIAGNOSIS CHECKLIST, PROCEDURE

we provide suggestions for tracking down odor sources.

Question:

11/30/2014 Glen de Valk said:

Last May we replaced our central air unit in our 2400 sq.ft. home in Sarasota, FL. It was replaced with the same size unit that had been in place for over 20 years (3.5 tons) and cooled and dehumidified very well.

However, the new unit does not dehumidify the air regardless where temp. is set and keeps the humidity level no lower than 60% and as high as 72% when we raise the thermostat to our comfort level around 75 degrees.

We had an independent inspection of the system done and detected that the air humidity at the registers was 83-85% when the unit was running; when the compressor shuts off and the fan runs for a pre-set 90 seconds more, the humidity level goes to 100%.

The installer cancelled the 90 second period of running but the humidity level still stays at 82-85% coming out of the registers and around 60 to 65 % at the returns.

The house was also thoroughly tested for plumbing leaks, etc. and there are none. The A/C contractor thought the 3.5 ton unit was too big and replaced it with a 3 ton unit so it would run longer cycles.

That made absolutely no difference in dehumidification. The contractor seems to be at a loss to cure it. Please advise. Thanks.

Reply:

Glen, please see your question and our reply in the article at DEHUMIDIFICATION PROBLEMS


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